2 pts. If you need that PS, you are better off with Adaptibility or VI, which is cheaper. Thus, initiative bit. PS 9 Poe is only going to be valuable in VI Vader/Han/Chirpy metas. Not exactly 2 pts worth.

If only there was a movie coming out that has X-wings in it. Whose name is tied to the X-wing in many people's minds. And who FFG has said that they have had more access to than TFA.

But that would be silly.

If only there was a movie coming out that has X-wings in it. Whose name is tied to the X-wing in many people's minds. And who FFG has said that they have had more access to than TFA.

But that would be silly.

I thought "Rogue One" the movie has nothing to do with Rogue Squadron, the awesome Legends "Blue Angels" of Star Wars.

I think a lot of folks complaining about overpowered Outriders and Falcons with illicit upgrades are missing the fact that the second modification is likely points limited to exclude Engine upgrade.

Yeah Dash can give himself a feedback array to cover the donut hole, but most likely at the expense of boost. I don't know that I'm as worried about feedback array SuperDash as I am the regular Boost/BR Dash.

2 pts. If you need that PS, you are better off with Adaptibility or VI, which is cheaper. Thus, initiative bit. PS 9 Poe is only going to be valuable in VI Vader/Han/Chirpy metas. Not exactly 2 pts worth.

But that means no PTL or some other EPT.

I said a procession of great crew and astromechs.

Apologies then, my brain separated that into a separate precession for each.

I still maintain our mech selection is mostly crappy, our scum only ship selection is laughable, and now our illicit slot is no longer unique to us. And the only thing scum gets out of it is access to a seeming one-time SLAM.

woo *finger twirl*

meanwhile one of the best pilots in the game gets inarguably better for no real reason

it was obvious to anyone who watched TFA Poe needed to be PS9.

Because movie performance is always 100% indicative of game performance. It's why Hera is PS7, right? Not like she's a top tier pilot in SW canon or anything. I guess I can look forward to Rebel Prototypes, where we get a PS 9 Hera in a B-Wing?

Poe was described as "the best pilot in the galaxy". That's not really PS8.

If Poe is a PS8 and no other pilots in the galaxy at the time are PS9. Then the statement is still true.

So now PS 11 Poe to beat PS 10 Poe ... or PS 9 Poe with Predator.

I love the rest but we really didn't need another fecking turret ship.

Good, because we didn't get another one. We got new pilots for the old one.

I love the rest but we really didn't need another fecking turret ship.

another turret ship?

looks exactly like a yt-1300 to me

I said a procession of great crew and astromechs.

Apologies then, my brain separated that into a separate precession for each.

I still maintain our mech selection is mostly crappy, our scum only ship selection is laughable, and now our illicit slot is no longer unique to us. And the only thing scum gets out of it is access to a seeming one-time SLAM.

Yeah, the biggest winner of a Rebel expansion should the Scum faction, obviously.

You can put words in my mouth all you want. Rebels gained access to IDs, Glitterstim, and Feedback Arrays(Outrider doughnut hole, what Outrider doughnut hole?) (well, DMS and HSB also, but who uses those?). Meanwhile in giving up one our two (formerly) unique upgrade slots, we get crap all for it. They could have at least put some decent illicit options in there.

You mean other than SLAM, a formerly Rebel-only option?

a one-time use of one of the weaker actions out there (which prevents you from attacking).

bestill my beating heart

Slam is an incredible mobility upgrade. The only reason it wasn't utterly bonkers was due to the K-wing's very stiff dial. On another ship, though? Kihraxzs turning on literal dimes. Emon Azomeen flinging bombs in fun new places. Any of Scum's large ships can reach unheard of speeds. It's good...

Assuming FFG doesn't take leave of their senses and make it cost more than one point.

I think game balance is hard to do when you have canon or other input that displays the skill of the pilot in "combat". We all get ideas of how things "should be" but the balance has to justify the cost. Honestly should Han really be a PS9? Probably not... he wasnt that great of a pilot... but it was done for some reason.

Han is PS 9 so he can shoot first.

Because why fix the already underwhelming scum FACTION, when we can fix a ship that had huge glory days and cave to the incessant whining that Poe is "only" PS 8? Why not give away scum's unique upgrade while we are at it?

Why even create the scum faction? If it werent for the contracted scout slipping past your apparently lack luster playtesting, one might think ffg just didnt care. oh wait, they dont

You're entitled to your opinion, of course, but I think to call Scum "underwhelming" is a gross mis-characterisation. Scum has some great builds and variety of ships.

I'm not so certain that the Smuggler's Compartments allow a second modification.

"You may...

Modifica...

costs...

squa..."

It might be something like:

"You may only equip this

Modification if the <Illicit> upgrade

costs less/more than X

squadron points"

It would actually make a fair amount of sense to restrict which Illicits are available to the Rebels, and it seems like people are really jumping to conclusions about the second modification part...

This game has always been profit-motivated.

Of course it was, like pretty much every other product in existence. If a product doesn't make a profit, then about 98% of the time that product stops getting made.

If releasing a pack based on TFA makes them a ton of money then it's only natural that they will do so.

It's not like this expansion means there won't be a Rebel Aces produced as well.

I was just thinking to myself "How can somebody quote me, say the exact same thing I just said, and then infer that I was saying something different?"

2 pts. If you need that PS, you are better off with Adaptibility or VI, which is cheaper. Thus, initiative bit. PS 9 Poe is only going to be valuable in VI Vader/Han/Chirpy metas. Not exactly 2 pts worth.

PS9 Poe means he moves after OL. With Black One title he can boost and shed the TL. Also, lots of VI Vessery are gonna be around, so Poe can boost out of his double tapping arc. Natural PS9 also means an open EPT slot. DOesnt have to be a 3pt+ EPT, CrackShot, Cool Hand, Adrenaline Rush are all great EPTs for a PS9 Poe. And if Pattern Analysis lets Poe reverse Check Pilot Stress and Perform Action, then Lightning Reflexes are gonna be great as well.

I'm not so certain that the Smuggler's Compartments allow a second modification.

"You may...

Modifica...

costs...

squa..."

It might be something like:

"You may only equip this

Modification if the <Illicit> upgrade

costs less/more than X

squadron points"

It would actually make a fair amount of sense to restrict which Illicits are available to the Rebels, and it seems like people are really jumping to conclusions about the second modification part...

that alternate wording makes no sense, since you need to have the mod before you get the illicit

otherwise, you'll create a time paradox

You understand that those 2 pts can just as easily be used for initiative bids, right?

You know, I wasn't expecting to experience a lot of schadenfreude today, but between the political news and the brigade of people ranting about the bitter injustice of a new X-wing expansion...

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If only there was a movie coming out that has X-wings in it. Whose name is tied to the X-wing in many people's minds. And who FFG has said that they have had more access to than TFA.

But that would be silly.

If only there was a movie coming out that has X-wings in it. Whose name is tied to the X-wing in many people's minds. And who FFG has said that they have had more access to than TFA.

But that would be silly.

I thought "Rogue One" the movie has nothing to do with Rogue Squadron, the awesome Legends "Blue Angels" of Star Wars.

You are correct. Rogue One is about espionage, not a Rebel pilot group.

Re the Falcon:

I am already looking forward to trying out this list:

Poe - Push the Limit, BB-8, Black One, Autothrusters

Rey - Push the Limit, Kanan Jarrus, Kyle Katarn, new title, EU (until point costs for the other stuff is spoiled)

Poe at PS 9 puts him in the sweet spot where VI is less necessary, and to get the most out of the title you need to be barrel rolling or boosting, while his ability means you want to be focusing. So I can go back to arc-dodger poe and ruin people's days.

With Rey, not only can you use the new title to essentially get 3 speed s-loops, but being able to get the combo of PtL, Kanan & Kyle is icing on the cake. Of course, once more stuff is posted I will certainly switch it all up.

Also here's to hoping the unspoiled cards that come with doubles are the "X-Wing Fix"...

Edit: also, PS 9 Poe means Super-Dash got a new wingman that doesn't require me to waste points on Prockets.

+ = stressless sloops, all day.

I don't know about you guys but I'm looking forward to taking that PS9 Poe with Predator, running 97-98 points and simultaneously giving the finger to both Whisper and Large ships.

Well this is strange. Strange because I'm not disapponted yet not satisfied.

Sad that FFG has not released a rebell veteran package that fix T-65 and E-Wing.

Instead they fix a T-70 by adding some new pilot, same pilot with higher pilotlevel, and some tech cards and cards I already have... 2 IA? Why the f* did I buy 2 T-70 expansion and manage to trade a 3rd IA When I get 2 in this expansion? Grrr.

Yay for Finn and Rey - specially Rei. She's probably my only favorite in the latest movie. For once, I might fly a falcon in casual play... However, I already have a falcon so what should I do with 2 Falcons?! Fly 2 Falcons? Maybe, not yet convinced. I rather fly 2 Ghosts instead.

As someone who has never acquired a Falcon because the idea of flying a pure PWT seemed exceedingly dull, this pack and Rey's ability are excellent.

I can pick up my extra T70 pilots and new upgrades, while still getting a new ship with at least one pilot worth flying