I'm quite alright with them giving a Falcon pilot an actual reason to care about their forward arc... Little confused as to exactly why they felt the need to remake Poe just with +1 PS. I mean, fluff wise I understand it perfectly, he's an excellent pilot. But strictly speaking, I'm not a fan of the PS climb in this game...

Giving the best abilities to the highest PS has been an issue for sure. I dont actually think new HeroPoe really counts as increasing this though. Odd thing to say about an PS increase I guess but original Poe is effectively PS10 in reality though. HeroPoe alongside original just opens up his build options. Really now you only ever see VI Poe.

Black One is ridiculously good. As an Imperial player I hope nobody runs it. It would just make Poe too expensive anyways, probably not worth the points, just leave it in the box.

Black One is ridiculously good. As an Imperial player I hope nobody runs it. It would just make Poe too expensive anyways, probably not worth the points, just leave it in the box.

I'm quite alright with them giving a Falcon pilot an actual reason to care about their forward arc... Little confused as to exactly why they felt the need to remake Poe just with +1 PS. I mean, fluff wise I understand it perfectly, he's an excellent pilot. But strictly speaking, I'm not a fan of the PS climb in this game...

PS 9 is important for Black One to fight Vader. Which is why I'm okay with the 1 pt tax. PS 9 Poe with Black One will screw with quite a few of the popular Imperial Aces. So, he will have a role, if not nearly as important as PS 8 Poe.

I'm quite alright with them giving a Falcon pilot an actual reason to care about their forward arc... Little confused as to exactly why they felt the need to remake Poe just with +1 PS. I mean, fluff wise I understand it perfectly, he's an excellent pilot. But strictly speaking, I'm not a fan of the PS climb in this game...

PS 9 is important for Black One to fight Vader. Which is why I'm okay with the 1 pt tax. PS 9 Poe with Black One will screw with quite a few of the popular Imperial Aces. So, he will have a role, if not nearly as important as PS 8 Poe.

Because the TIE Advanced really needed a hard counter?

Black One is a big **** you to a lot of ships, and a lot of ordnance (but don't worry, not to U-boats), and several pilots. It should have been at least two points.

Black One seems super conditional.

Poe can use it to remove a TL from his own ship. In fact if he has BB-8 he could quite easily remove 2 TL's.The card says "a friendly ship at range 1" and that always includes the ship the upgrade is on. So for one point he can either remove one from his ship or one from another ship that's at range 1.

PS9 puts him in with a shout of screwing up Vader's ATC and Whisper's FCS, too.

Edit - GODDAMN NINJAS.

I'm quite alright with them giving a Falcon pilot an actual reason to care about their forward arc... Little confused as to exactly why they felt the need to remake Poe just with +1 PS. I mean, fluff wise I understand it perfectly, he's an excellent pilot. But strictly speaking, I'm not a fan of the PS climb in this game...

PS 9 is important for Black One to fight Vader. Which is why I'm okay with the 1 pt tax. PS 9 Poe with Black One will screw with quite a few of the popular Imperial Aces. So, he will have a role, if not nearly as important as PS 8 Poe.

Because the TIE Advanced really needed a hard counter?

Black One is a big **** you to a lot of ships, and a lot of ordnance (but don't worry, not to U-boats), and several pilots. It should have been at least two points.

Given how well Imperial Aces have been performing of late, you'll forgive me for not being too sad about there being a card out there that can tell a few of them to **** right off.

I'm quite alright with them giving a Falcon pilot an actual reason to care about their forward arc... Little confused as to exactly why they felt the need to remake Poe just with +1 PS. I mean, fluff wise I understand it perfectly, he's an excellent pilot. But strictly speaking, I'm not a fan of the PS climb in this game...

PS 9 is important for Black One to fight Vader. Which is why I'm okay with the 1 pt tax. PS 9 Poe with Black One will screw with quite a few of the popular Imperial Aces. So, he will have a role, if not nearly as important as PS 8 Poe.

Because the TIE Advanced really needed a hard counter?

Black One is a big **** you to a lot of ships, and a lot of ordnance (but don't worry, not to U-boats), and several pilots. It should have been at least two points.

As someone who is super eager to use Vessery, it doesn't bother me too much. It requires a set amount of circumstances to pull off. Good chances are, you are going to take BB-8 Poe to really neuter Imperials. Which isn't quite as strong, imo.

Yeah the more I think about this expansion, the more I like it. Poe's release, then re-release kind of mirrors his arc in the movie. At first he's good, but ordnance kind of ruined him, but once he's back in black he's even better.

As far as the game balance I think this will be solid. The 2 point jump will not make the choice for PS 9 automatic. If you go for the PS 9, you're choosing the less cost effective version to try to stay on top of the PS heap. But, with higher PS and the title's synergy with BB-8, you might see builds other than VI, regen bot, autothrusters.

The new Falcon looks slick. I'm not sure if it's a total rescuplt, or just the new dish, but it certainly looks cleaner and crisper. The smuggler's compartment seems like a cool addition to this ship too. I know exclusively scum players are concerned with Rebels dabbling in their precious illicits, but remember it is extremely limited access. That said, an ORS with feedback and R2-Dcrew sounds hilarious.

Basically, don't think of this as an imperial veterans type of fix, more like what rebel aces did for B-wings. They took already viable ships that had gotten kinda stale and gave them a few more options.

But it's also a nice succinct release. Everything they missed on when they designed the TFA stuff before seeing the movie. You've got all the new personalities and cards that seem mostly targeted towards those two ships, though I'm sure there will be a few cards with wider use. 2 more copies of integrated astromech is nice too. For any non-rebel player this will be a very easy release to ignore, kind of like imperial veterans is for non-imperials.

I think this will be a solid, cost-effective release for those that want it, and a nice chance to replenish the wallet for everyone else.

Fly Han or Rey and throw a Navigator on the falcon with stay on target and the new Falcon title for some fun! Have dash on board as well to get focus when you start ditching stress with green maneuvers.

*sigh* Yet another super-ship treating the dial as an afterthought.

Seems unlikely. There are 4 cards that it could be. 2 of them are likely EPTs for everyone.

Besides, we know Rogue One is coming out. We know there are X-wings in that movie (even cool repaint options). So, patience is needed.

I don't know. Whatever they are, there's two of each which doesn't often happen except when the card is intended to be paired with ships OTHER than just the ones in the box. Think Test Pilot or E/2 or the TIE Adv title or Autothrusters.

And, there's an X Wing in the box. Granted it's a T70, but wouldn't that be a good opportunity to add a little buff to the T65 as well? I'm not certain, but it wouldn't surprise me if the two pairs of unrevealed cards were X Wing only EPTs or X Wing titles.

Stop exaggerating. They also have a torpedo slot.

I really like the idea of some kind of X-wing fix that's goes into the Torpedo slot. No idea what it might be- maybe something as simple as giving up the Torpedo and getting a barrel roll.

This has promise...

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I'm quite alright with them giving a Falcon pilot an actual reason to care about their forward arc... Little confused as to exactly why they felt the need to remake Poe just with +1 PS. I mean, fluff wise I understand it perfectly, he's an excellent pilot. But strictly speaking, I'm not a fan of the PS climb in this game...

PS 9 is important for Black One to fight Vader. Which is why I'm okay with the 1 pt tax. PS 9 Poe with Black One will screw with quite a few of the popular Imperial Aces. So, he will have a role, if not nearly as important as PS 8 Poe.

Because the TIE Advanced really needed a hard counter?

Black One is a big **** you to a lot of ships, and a lot of ordnance (but don't worry, not to U-boats), and several pilots. It should have been at least two points.

Given how well Imperial Aces have been performing of late, you'll forgive me for not being too sad about there being a card out there that can tell a few of them to **** right off.

Yeah, it would be a shame if the Empire was strong enough to win Worlds this year.

Stop exaggerating. They also have a torpedo slot.

I really like the idea of some kind of X-wing fix that's goes into the Torpedo slot. No idea what it might be- maybe something as simple as giving up the Torpedo and getting a barrel roll.

Stop trying to give the xwing boost or barrel roll. Not every ship needs boost and/or barrel roll. Besides, the xwing firing torpedoes is classic, there's no way a "fix" will remove that thematic element.

The Millenium Falcon is THE SHIP that most represents Star Wars to people.

With all the great card upgrades will end up buying 2 of the HOTR for sure. Might try to get up to 3 of the T70 for the great paint jobs.

Maybe to terrorist sympathizers but not for the true and the proud: tie fighter, no shields, all guts all glory. For the glory of the Empire!

I'm quite alright with them giving a Falcon pilot an actual reason to care about their forward arc... Little confused as to exactly why they felt the need to remake Poe just with +1 PS. I mean, fluff wise I understand it perfectly, he's an excellent pilot. But strictly speaking, I'm not a fan of the PS climb in this game...

PS 9 is important for Black One to fight Vader. Which is why I'm okay with the 1 pt tax. PS 9 Poe with Black One will screw with quite a few of the popular Imperial Aces. So, he will have a role, if not nearly as important as PS 8 Poe.

Because the TIE Advanced really needed a hard counter?

Black One is a big **** you to a lot of ships, and a lot of ordnance (but don't worry, not to U-boats), and several pilots. It should have been at least two points.

Given how well Imperial Aces have been performing of late, you'll forgive me for not being too sad about there being a card out there that can tell a few of them to **** right off.

Yeah, it would be a shame if the Empire was strong enough to win Worlds this year.

I'm quite alright with them giving a Falcon pilot an actual reason to care about their forward arc... Little confused as to exactly why they felt the need to remake Poe just with +1 PS. I mean, fluff wise I understand it perfectly, he's an excellent pilot. But strictly speaking, I'm not a fan of the PS climb in this game...

PS 9 is important for Black One to fight Vader. Which is why I'm okay with the 1 pt tax. PS 9 Poe with Black One will screw with quite a few of the popular Imperial Aces. So, he will have a role, if not nearly as important as PS 8 Poe.

Because the TIE Advanced really needed a hard counter?

Black One is a big **** you to a lot of ships, and a lot of ordnance (but don't worry, not to U-boats), and several pilots. It should have been at least two points.

Given how well Imperial Aces have been performing of late, you'll forgive me for not being too sad about there being a card out there that can tell a few of them to **** right off.

Yeah, it would be a shame if the Empire was strong enough to win Worlds this year.

You're adorable.

Imperial squads have made the Worlds final in 2012, 2013 and 2014. In 2012 they won. In 2013 and 2014 they had the misfortune of having Paul Heaver sitting on the other side of the table. In 2015 they made Semi-Finals before yet again having the misfortune of encountering Paul Heaver.

Looks to me like they are plenty strong enough to win worlds. They just seem to suffer from the same problem as everyone else at Worlds: their pilot is not Paul Heaver.

*Laugh* You're cute.

You do realize Rebels is the safe bet for Worlds and that's why Paul chooses to bring them to Worlds? They are the tankiest faction with regeneration that also won't auto lose a match on one bad chuck of the green dice. An Imperial player needs the Gods of Luck to shine on them more often during World's than a Rebel players hence why Paul favors Rebels for Worlds. He has played the other factions in non-World tournaments and it hasn't paid off for him.

I'm quite alright with them giving a Falcon pilot an actual reason to care about their forward arc... Little confused as to exactly why they felt the need to remake Poe just with +1 PS. I mean, fluff wise I understand it perfectly, he's an excellent pilot. But strictly speaking, I'm not a fan of the PS climb in this game...

PS 9 is important for Black One to fight Vader. Which is why I'm okay with the 1 pt tax. PS 9 Poe with Black One will screw with quite a few of the popular Imperial Aces. So, he will have a role, if not nearly as important as PS 8 Poe.

Because the TIE Advanced really needed a hard counter?

Black One is a big **** you to a lot of ships, and a lot of ordnance (but don't worry, not to U-boats), and several pilots. It should have been at least two points.

Given how well Imperial Aces have been performing of late, you'll forgive me for not being too sad about there being a card out there that can tell a few of them to **** right off.

Yeah, it would be a shame if the Empire was strong enough to win Worlds this year.

You're adorable.

Imperial squads have made the Worlds final in 2012, 2013 and 2014. In 2012 they won. In 2013 and 2014 they had the misfortune of having Paul Heaver sitting on the other side of the table. In 2015 they made Semi-Finals before yet again having the misfortune of encountering Paul Heaver.

Looks to me like they are plenty strong enough to win worlds. They just seem to suffer from the same problem as everyone else at Worlds: their pilot is not Paul Heaver.

*Laugh* You're cute.

You do realize Rebels is the safe bet for Worlds and that's why Paul chooses to bring them to Worlds? They are the tankiest faction with regeneration that also won't auto lose a match on one bad chuck of the green dice. An Imperial player needs the Gods of Luck to shine on them more often during World's than a Rebel players hence why Paul favors Rebels for Worlds. He has played the other factions in non-World tournaments and it hasn't paid off for him.

Anyone care to speculate about the "Resistance Freighter" (PS3)? Will it have the same stats as that of the ORS or will it have the stats of the "Millennium Falcon"?

Personally, I think the stats will still match the ORS but the squadron points will be lower to correct the overpriced cost.

They're not the safe bet because they're Rebels, but because they had a lot of the right tools. A lot of rebel's tools have become largely obsolete with Wave 8, and tons of new and great TIEs, and Imperials getting the Dice God they needed.

-The stress hog not only can't prevent a U-boat torpedo strike, but it also is very vulnerable to them.

-The Falcon slipped once TLTs came out (who were then knocked out by ordnance)

-X-wings of all flavors (yes even Poe) are struggling because they can't stay on the board long enough to amount to much. Aces can arc-dodging them and there's too many high-quality attacks out now for 2 agility and middling HP to count for much.

So I'm not sure why Rebels are considered a lock for Worlds again, despite all recent tournament data. And Imperial Veterans will be out by then which will be a HUGE leap forward for both defenders and bombers.

And from what I've seen in this release won't even change any of that. Do you really think an EVEN MORE expensive 2 agility ship is really gonna knock the imperials from their dominant spot? Did you really think FFG wouldn't bring in Rey in the Falcon, and the black T-70, Finn and everyone else?

Do you believe that FFG shouldn't capitalize on the popularity of TFA simply because imperials haven't won Worlds in a few years?

It is far too early for predictions on Worlds. Things will likely look a bit different by then.

Exactly. Which is why lamenting this release as the one that will ensure another rebel victory is silliness.