-your opponent looks across the table at your list and believes, correctly or not, he has no hope of winning. Thus he deploys and engages in such a way as to produce the most minimally scoring game possible.

-your opponent realizes after deployment, correctly or not, that he screwed up, has no hope of winning, and then seeks to minimize losses by not engaging.

-you are clearly winning the game, but score no points for ships limping away at 1 hull. Knowing this, your opponent 'bugs out' denying you points.

Your opponent is trying to maximise his score for the game and overall score for the tournament. Why would you expect him not to?

Look at it from his point of view, he is earning as many points as he can.

So, again why is the way he does this a problem? He isn't cheating, he is just making sure then every point he gives away is earned. What are you doing to earn those points?

-your opponent looks across the table at your list and believes, correctly or not, he has no hope of winning. Thus he deploys and engages in such a way as to produce the most minimally scoring game possible.

-your opponent realizes after deployment, correctly or not, that he screwed up, has no hope of winning, and then seeks to minimize losses by not engaging.

-you are clearly winning the game, but score no points for ships limping away at 1 hull. Knowing this, your opponent 'bugs out' denying you points.

Your opponent is trying to maximise his score for the game and overall score for the tournament. Why would you expect him not to?

Look at it from his point of view, he is earning as many points as he can.

So, again why is the way he does this a problem? He isn't cheating, he is just making sure then every point he gives away is earned. What are you doing to earn those points?

If his strategy to maximize his score is to run away from me, that's a problem.

-your opponent looks across the table at your list and believes, correctly or not, he has no hope of winning. Thus he deploys and engages in such a way as to produce the most minimally scoring game possible.

-your opponent realizes after deployment, correctly or not, that he screwed up, has no hope of winning, and then seeks to minimize losses by not engaging.

-you are clearly winning the game, but score no points for ships limping away at 1 hull. Knowing this, your opponent 'bugs out' denying you points.

Your opponent is trying to maximise his score for the game and overall score for the tournament. Why would you expect him not to?

Look at it from his point of view, he is earning as many points as he can.

So, again why is the way he does this a problem? He isn't cheating, he is just making sure then every point he gives away is earned. What are you doing to earn those points?

If his strategy to maximize his score is to run away from me, that's a problem.

But many ships benefit directly from their ability to run away. Such as Corvettes, Raiders, Gladiators, Assault Frigates, Nebulon Bs, MC30s. Seems like the ability to run away was kind of designed into the game.

Also, increasing the stakes like this would only encourage people to turtle more in their corner. Bid reasonable low with a good defensive fleet, take second player, turtle, either get a 6-4, or force your opponent to try to break in.

First player can stop that by picking a yellow objective. You cant stay turtled up in a corner with a yellow or half the blues

First player can stop the turtle with the right plan

The Store Champ byes are only worth 8pts, not 9.

I remember reading else where they were 9

The tournament software FFG sends with the Regional's still has the bye at 9-1. The current tournament rules state its 8-2 so it really is dependent on the TO. Some Regionals have had 8 point byes, other 9 point.

-your opponent looks across the table at your list and believes, correctly or not, he has no hope of winning. Thus he deploys and engages in such a way as to produce the most minimally scoring game possible.

-your opponent realizes after deployment, correctly or not, that he screwed up, has no hope of winning, and then seeks to minimize losses by not engaging.

-you are clearly winning the game, but score no points for ships limping away at 1 hull. Knowing this, your opponent 'bugs out' denying you points.

Your opponent is trying to maximise his score for the game and overall score for the tournament. Why would you expect him not to?

Look at it from his point of view, he is earning as many points as he can.

So, again why is the way he does this a problem? He isn't cheating, he is just making sure then every point he gives away is earned. What are you doing to earn those points?

If his strategy to maximize his score is to run away from me, that's a problem.

Not to him it isn't.

Why do you feel that he should lose by more just because you don't like the way he plays? Your opponent doesn't come to play a game and just give you a 10-0 win because you were gracious enough to sit down in front of him. Everything he does will be a problem for you to face, if you can't stop him running away and he sees it, why is this a fault with him or the tournament system?

Let me reword your quote a little: If his strategy to maximize his score is to run away from me bring Demolisher, that's a problem. Now, my point is, it is up to me to figure out how to approach and solve that problem. Saying let's change the tournament system because players play Demolisher, isn't a good solution to the problem.

The Store Champ byes are only worth 8pts, not 9.

I remember reading else where they were 9

Basically it seems there is an Error in the tournament software that gives out 9 pt byes but the actual rules say they are supposed to be 8.

This has lead to some tournaments giveing 9 pts and some giveing 8. It is "supposed" to be 8

Edit: missed that this post had already been addressed, I apologize for the useless post

The Store Champ byes are only worth 8pts, not 9.

I remember reading else where they were 9

The tournament software FFG sends with the Regional's still has the bye at 9-1. The current tournament rules state its 8-2 so it really is dependent on the TO. Some Regionals have had 8 point byes, other 9 point.

after reading the tournament rules I see where it says Byes are 8 points but it does not say anything about store champ Byes are the 2 different? if they are not then a bye may not be worth It? does anyone know if the regionals tournament kit has anything in it that talks about the Bye?

Edit: missed that this post had already been addressed, I apologize for the useless post

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The Store Champ byes are only worth 8pts, not 9.

I remember reading else where they were 9

they have been inconsistent.

Basically it seems there is an Error in the tournament software that gives out 9 pt byes but the actual rules say they are supposed to be 8.

This has lead to some tournaments giveing 9 pts and some giveing 8. It is "supposed" to be 8

Edit: missed that this post had already been addressed, I apologize for the useless post

I talked with the TO for the Denver regionals, and he says that they will bemail doing 9 point buys if the software says it for Store Championship buys. Evidently in XWing, the tournament buys are always worth more in that system, so he's going to assume that if the software that FFG made says so, that must be what they want.

Although it IS really annoying that FFG hasn't said anything about thie...

The Store Champ byes are only worth 8pts, not 9.

I remember reading else where they were 9

they have been inconsistent.

Basically it seems there is an Error in the tournament software that gives out 9 pt byes but the actual rules say they are supposed to be 8.

This has lead to some tournaments giveing 9 pts and some giveing 8. It is "supposed" to be 8

Edit: missed that this post had already been addressed, I apologize for the useless post

I talked with the TO for the Denver regionals, and he says that they will bemail doing 9 point buys if the software says it for Store Championship buys. Evidently in XWing, the tournament buys are always worth more in that system, so he's going to assume that if the software that FFG made says so, that must be what they want.

Although it IS really annoying that FFG hasn't said anything about thie...

I was hoping to get an answer by now our regionals starts in 2 hours. But if FFG put it as 9 in there software it makes me think 9 is what it is meant to be