Here's a question tied to the "rolling too many or too few dice" issue.

Say you're playing against someone who has ships that roll a lot of dice (HLC Agressors, for example). They have a tendency to roll their dice one at a time, until they have a full roll. I have personal opinions about rolling like that... but this isn't the place to discuss my feelings.

There are rules that address rolling too few dice (roll extras to make the difference) ....but what happens if they then go on to (oops!) roll too MANY dice? Say they attack with HLC, and roll one at a time... blank... focus... blank... then they accidentally drop two dice that come up hit-blank. The rules state that a too-many-dice attack is rerolled in whole.. and the whole thing begins again, this time probably with a better roll (the same situation could arise with defense dice on a fully-kitted-out Soontir Fel).

Do you have the right to ask your opponent to roll their dice all at once? Is this something that could/should be brought to the TO's attention? While extremely suspect, it can be completely innocent - where do you draw the line?

The rules say that if you roll too many dice, then the entire roll is ignored and you do do it again correctly.

HOWEVER - the intent behind this, as I see it, is that you can't tell which is the "wrong" dice, so you can't just pick it out. In this particular instance of someone rolling their dice one at a time, and you can see which is the excess die, I would be happy to simply remove that last die from the pool. It'd certainly be quicker than watching as he picked up all the dice and rolled them sequentially again.

In this particular instance of someone rolling their dice one at a time, and you can see which is the excess die, I would be happy to simply remove that last die from the pool. It'd certainly be quicker than watching as he picked up all the dice and rolled them sequentially again.

That actually makes this kind of thing somewhat insidious... If I were going to try and cheat here's how I'd do it using the one at a time method.

I'd roll each die one at a time, and when I was about to roll the last die I'd know how many successes I had at the time, if I didn't have as many as I wanted I could roll an extra die but roll it in such a way that you couldn't easily tell which one of all the dice on the table was the extra.

At that point you can't easily pick out the extra die or even dice and make me roll it again. That means I could in theory roll 2 or 3 times until I got a result I was happy with and at that point roll the correct number of dice.

Of course I'm not sure how long I'd get away with doing that. I guess if I saved it for really critical rolls I could get away number of times.

I'd roll each die one at a time, and when I was about to roll the last die I'd know how many successes I had at the time, if I didn't have as many as I wanted I could roll an extra die but roll it in such a way that you couldn't easily tell which one of all the dice on the table was the extra.

Or just roll all but one then accidentally roll two if it's not gone your way.

I don't think most people who do this are cheating, but I'm sure a small but significant proportion are.

In this particular instance of someone rolling their dice one at a time, and you can see which is the excess die, I would be happy to simply remove that last die from the pool. It'd certainly be quicker than watching as he picked up all the dice and rolled them sequentially again.

That actually makes this kind of thing somewhat insidious... If I were going to try and cheat here's how I'd do it using the one at a time method.

I'd roll each die one at a time, and when I was about to roll the last die I'd know how many successes I had at the time, if I didn't have as many as I wanted I could roll an extra die but roll it in such a way that you couldn't easily tell which one of all the dice on the table was the extra.

At that point you can't easily pick out the extra die or even dice and make me roll it again. That means I could in theory roll 2 or 3 times until I got a result I was happy with and at that point roll the correct number of dice.

Of course I'm not sure how long I'd get away with doing that. I guess if I saved it for really critical rolls I could get away number of times.

OK, go for it. You get to go to all that effort to ... win a game of X-Wing, and then I don't play you again because you drag the game out for hours. A bit of a wasted effort all round, but whatever floats your boat.

In this particular instance of someone rolling their dice one at a time, and you can see which is the excess die, I would be happy to simply remove that last die from the pool. It'd certainly be quicker than watching as he picked up all the dice and rolled them sequentially again.

That actually makes this kind of thing somewhat insidious... If I were going to try and cheat here's how I'd do it using the one at a time method.

I'd roll each die one at a time, and when I was about to roll the last die I'd know how many successes I had at the time, if I didn't have as many as I wanted I could roll an extra die but roll it in such a way that you couldn't easily tell which one of all the dice on the table was the extra.

At that point you can't easily pick out the extra die or even dice and make me roll it again. That means I could in theory roll 2 or 3 times until I got a result I was happy with and at that point roll the correct number of dice.

Of course I'm not sure how long I'd get away with doing that. I guess if I saved it for really critical rolls I could get away number of times.

OK, go for it. You get to go to all that effort to ... win a game of X-Wing, and then I don't play you again because you drag the game out for hours. A bit of a wasted effort all round, but whatever floats your boat.

It's much more problematic in timed tournaments.

A bit of a wasted effort all round, but whatever floats your boat.

As the space invader points out... You can't simply avoid me at a tournament.

Plus many people don't really understand why someone cheats... It's in most cases not about winning a game, it's about proving I'm better than you, because I got away with it.

Edit: The whole reason I brought it up was, as a warning I guess. If you see someone doing this, you may want to keep a very close eye on what they're doing so you can either know to avoid them or bring it up to the TO.

If I see someone rolling one at a time I'll ask them politely to roll all at once, and explain if I had to that this is a timed event. Doing this is taking up to much time

If he refused I'd call a to over and again explain the situation and ask him to tell my opponent to roll all his dice

If someone wants to be a ******. I'll be a ****** right back and then some

No delete. Carry on.