Relentless?

By Portage, in Imperial Assault Skirmish

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Relentless: When you declare an attack targeting a figure within 3 spaces, that figure suffers strain.

If the figure chooses to take damage and not discard a command card in a skirmish game, would you still be able to apply a harmful condition?

Example:

Trandoshan attacks Stormtrooper at range 2. Trooper chooses to take 1 damage for figure strain. Trandoshan rolls 2 damage and 1 surge. Stormtrooper rolls 3 blocks. Can the Trandoshen still apply Bleed?

No, Relentless triggers when you declare an attack but is not part of the attack.

Only damage suffered during step 7 of the attack is considered damage suffered from the attack. (Confirmed by FFG. see the FAQ thread.)

To clarify what should happen is, you declare the attack within 3 spaces (your example is 2). That target takes one strain automatically (in this case since it's Skirmish, it becomes damage or 1 command card). So they take the one damage. Next you resolve the attack. In this case you said 2 damage and 1 surge is what the Trandoshan rolls and the target rolls 3 block. In the rules under "Conditions" it says that:

"Conditions are sometimes used as keyword. When an attack uses a condition as a keyword, the condition is applied using the following rules:

- The target of the attack must suffer one or more (damage) for the condition to apply."

So since he took no damage, he doesn't get the Bleed.

~D

Edited by HoodieDM

Bleed is a Condition and thus only applied if the target suffered damage from the attack.

So, the Trandoshan can spend the surge for Pierce 2 and it allows him to deal 1 damage (2 damage against 1 block). If he spends the surge for bleed, there is 2 damage against 3 blocks, the target suffers no damage and bleed is not applied to the target figure. (He can't do both.)

Edited by a1bert

Additionally, in this example, there are not enough surges to trigger Bleed and Pierce.

@a1bert

if the opponent decides to get 1 damage because of Relentless, my understanding is that this is applied at step 1 of the attack. Let's assume the target died because of the strain, should I consider the action spent for such an attack?

Edited by Golan Trevize
5 hours ago, Golan Trevize said:

@a1bert

if the opponent decides to get 1 damage because of Relentless, my understanding is that this is applied at step 1 of the attack. Let's assume the target died because of the strain, should I consider the action spent for such an attack?

Yes, declaring an attack is an action - the action is gone immediately.

You have already spent the action.

ยท If an interrupt makes the current action or ability invalid, that
effect is not resolved. Any costs used to resolve that effect are
still paid.

You would also lose any Focus or Hide tokens on the attacker even if the defender died via Relentless.