Well, we'll have to wait until after-release for an Actual Clarification...

I just feel you're asking more of a 2pt Card that should really be expected

I agree. It seems fairly obvious to me. You pick your target, then if it's a squadron the attack becomes obstructed. The obstruction will have no affect on your target picking before you declare the target, therefore you wont be able to choose a ship if you are engaged by non-heavy squadron. Though I guess for the brief moment of the attack you might not engaged (this will need clearification since it will affect swarm).

The card States while a squadron is attacking or defending against another squadron that attack is treated as obstructed. The ships themselves are not obstructed, we just treat that attack as obstructed at them moment of the attack occurring. So it should not interact with any other game mechanic such as escort and being engaged.

The problem is...obstructed IS obstructed. There is no definition of "treated as" being different than "is"

That means, at the moment of attack, the squadron is not engaged. Which produces some wonky results and / or bizarre situations

Agent Kallus + Assault variant tosses a black/blue at named squads. Could be good fighter support.

The problem is...obstructed IS obstructed. There is no definition of "treated as" being different than "is"

That means, at the moment of attack, the squadron is not engaged. Which produces some wonky results and / or bizarre situations

Ooh, ooh, I'll break it further for you!

• A “while” effect can be resolved during the specified event and cannot occur again during that instance of the event.

Nowhere is "Attacking" defined in the Rulebook. Ergo, you cannot be while Attacking.

The rules section is "Attack", and it uses the nonclementure "Performing an Attack."

Not Attacking.

So there's never a While Attacking.

QED. because even Philosophers like to say "*****, Please."

B I T C H please!

Seems straightforward to me. There's a big difference between an attack being treated as obstructed and your squadron being treated as obstructed. If your squadron isn't being treated as obstructed, you are still engaged.

But it says the attack is treated as obstructed..... Not a squadron.... You simply cannot make a leap from treat the attack as obscured to "the squadron is obscured".

If as dras points out there is no definition of "attacking" in the rule book you have one of three choices.

1) Accept the card as written and make the assumption that a bit of sloppy labelling has occurred and they meant that "attacking" = "performing an attack" and that by treating the "performed attack" as obscured they meant for the outcome of "performing an Attack" to be the same as if the ship being attacked was obscured ( as in remove one dice). Or agree some other common sense approach.

2) agree the card is broken and refuse to allow its use until it's clarified.

3) argue until you are all blue in the face.

Dras is right. JF is definitely not Intel++.

But it says the attack is treated as obstructed..... Not a squadron.... You simply cannot make a leap from treat the attack as obscured to "the squadron is obscured".

If as dras points out there is no definition of "attacking" in the rule book you have one of three choices.

1) Accept the card as written and make the assumption that a bit of sloppy labelling has occurred and they meant that "attacking" = "performing an attack" and that by treating the "performed attack" as obscured they meant for the outcome of "performing an Attack" to be the same as if the ship being attacked was obscured ( as in remove one dice). Or agree some other common sense approach.

2) agree the card is broken and refuse to allow its use until it's clarified.

3) argue until you are all blue in the face.

You know option 3 is the only option on the internet!

I think its pretty plain English that the subject of obstructed is "attack" not "squadron". It's not even rules lawyering its like, basic grammar.

I think its pretty plain English that the subject of obstructed is "attack" not "squadron". It's not even rules lawyering its like, basic grammar.

I knew my master's in English would come through for me some day!

I'll be honest, I don't know if I'm right or not...

But I know I certainly set a new record for pedantry in trying to prove my point...

Seriously, invalidating every card that uses the word "Attacking" in it... WOW.

The SADDEST news is... Demolisher is still Valid under my ruling above. As it uses the "during your activation" nonclementure, and that is defined correctly.

I think its pretty plain English that the subject of obstructed is "attack" not "squadron". It's not even rules lawyering its like, basic grammar.

Jesus Christ, this. I get where the confusion arises, but it should be shut down in a minute. The attack itself is treated as if it were obstructed which means one less dice. The squadron itself is not obstructed and thus still engaged.

Different Thought.

Both Expansions have 8 Cards. If they follow the same setup, then your Card Setup in teh GR75 would be:

Commander
Crew (Toryn Farr)
Fleet Support 1 (Repair Crews)
Fleet Support 2
Fleet Support 3

Fleet Support 4
Title 1 (You can barely make out 'Quasar')
Title 2

Being that one of those Fleet Supports will be the Repair Teams that have already been spoiled... Which of the FOUR Fleet Supports already shown will not be a part of the GR75 Kit?

- Bomber Command

- Slicer Tools

- Jamming Field

- Comms Net

I honestly don't know which I'd want to lose...

So something I just came across while reading your guys' replies and all the relevant key words in the Rules Reference:

Engagement, page 6, bullet pt. 4:

So something I just came across while reading your guys' replies and all the relevant key words in the Rules Reference:

Engagement, page 6, bullet pt. 4:

-If line of sight between two squadrons is obstructed,

those squadrons are not engaged even if at distance 1 of

each other, though they can still attack each other

I did not know this, did you guys? 2 squadrons can attack each other even though they are not engaged. Huh.

Yep, so long as they are at Distance 1 of each other, they can certainly attack each other... Was clarified with an Email in regards to heavy, Intel and Instigator as well.

Think of how nice it'd be if you could throw Jan in the center of the station, untouchable, while she was throwing distance 2 braces to all other squadrons.

Different Thought.

Both Expansions have 8 Cards. If they follow the same setup, then your Card Setup in teh GR75 would be:

Commander

Crew (Toryn Farr)

Fleet Support 1 (Repair Crews)

Fleet Support 2

Fleet Support 3

Fleet Support 4

Title 1 (You can barely make out 'Quasar')

Title 2

Being that one of those Fleet Supports will be the Repair Teams that have already been spoiled... Which of the FOUR Fleet Supports already shown will not be a part of the GR75 Kit?

- Bomber Command

- Slicer Tools

- Jamming Field

- Comms Net

I honestly don't know which I'd want to lose...

Isn't the title Quantum Star? That's one of the X-wing Reb Transport titles. The other two being Dutyfree and Bright Hope (I'm guessing this will be the 2nd title).

Maybe Admiral Leia version will be the Reb commander?

Different Thought.

Both Expansions have 8 Cards. If they follow the same setup, then your Card Setup in teh GR75 would be:

Commander

Crew (Toryn Farr)

Fleet Support 1 (Repair Crews)

Fleet Support 2

Fleet Support 3

Fleet Support 4

Title 1 (You can barely make out 'Quasar')

Title 2

Being that one of those Fleet Supports will be the Repair Teams that have already been spoiled... Which of the FOUR Fleet Supports already shown will not be a part of the GR75 Kit?

- Bomber Command

- Slicer Tools

- Jamming Field

- Comms Net

I honestly don't know which I'd want to lose...

Isn't the title Quantum Star? That's one of the X-wing Reb Transport titles. The other two being Dutyfree and Bright Hope (I'm guessing this will be the 2nd title).

Maybe Admiral Leia version will be the Reb commander?

I'll stand corrected on it - "Qua" was really all I could see

My local betting Money is on General Crix Madine. He's the only rebel officer in the main timeline who not only has a Speaking Part in the movies, but is specifically addressed by name...

Not even Dodonna gets that. He just has the Speaking Part...

And Garm... let's not evne get into Garm...

... "GAAAAAAAAAAAAARM!"

Quantum Storm is the title for the GR-75 in X-Wing. It gets additional energy.

Bright Hope is tougher than average

Dutyfree is a better hacker

why are we paying $20 MSRP (15$ online) for two little dinky ships that we need like 3x multiples of?? Does anyone else find this totally absurd? These things are tiny. This is seriously piracy, xwing tie fighters are way bigger and less plastic and a much more involved model. And those are $15 each.

I'm pretty unhappy about this price. Probably going to have to buy online to save $20 bucks.

It's probably on par with X-Wing players needing to pay $15 each for Z-95s.

In this case, the pack comes with two fully-painted models. It also has more plastic when you account for things like Command Dials and the larger bases.

It's probably on par with X-Wing players needing to pay $15 each for Z-95s.

$25.99 CAD at my Local.

Priced it when I picked up my last Gladiator.

Which, for the record, was $46.99 CAD

So far....looks brilliant.

That slicer card seems like it could be very nasty.

Need that late game engineering? Nope.

Demolisher without wulf and a nav token? No speed one to get into black die range for you!

Relying on that squadron command? No soup for you!

Jamming: affects your own squadrons too? Looks like it

Jamming: affects your own squadrons too? Looks like it

Most definitely. The caution it directly in the article.