Proudly made in the USA

By Hexdot, in X-Wing

If you want to discuss the morals of capitalism, any chance you could piss off to the Off Topic section to do it? You can all pretend you know exactly what goes on in Chinese factories, how much people get paid and self-congratulate yourselves all until you go blind quite happily there.

You don't even need to pretend it's about X-Wing miniatures by throwing in the odd comment now and then.

Cheers

Baaa

Some people seem to be able to get mysteriously in touch with a moderator. If, per chance, you could direct me to one, thus I could request to migrate this topic to it´s appropiate place, I would be happy to oblige good sir. :)

Sincerely, for a starship game, I would preffer a "Produly made in Langrange 1 orbit", just for the cool.

Musk I dare you.
Musk read this forum, no?

Proudly made by the loyal citizens of the Galactic Empire!

;)

On Kessel... :D

Auch, that´s vicious.. ;)

Hey I gotta say something good about Belgium. Half the world now thinks we're a failed state. :( (We're a country, not a state, dammit! :) )

Yup, ruled from a Hellhole where we can watch our national soccer team, proudly called: The Red Devils

:D

Edited by Cununculus

If you want to discuss the morals of capitalism, any chance you could piss off to the Off Topic section to do it? You can all pretend you know exactly what goes on in Chinese factories, how much people get paid and self-congratulate yourselves all until you go blind quite happily there.

You don't even need to pretend it's about X-Wing miniatures by throwing in the odd comment now and then.

Cheers

Baaa

Yes, it would be wonderful if anybody move the thread there.
Then could take place the much awaited debate "Hobbes vs Locke vs Marx". I'm pretty sure that we can postulate the Locke's "Three Bacon-Aces" as a superior political theory against the Hobbe's "Turreted LevYathans" (but I'm afraid of the Marx's "proletarians scouts" strong influx).

Ja! Nederlands voor de overwinning! ;)

Duidelijk een goed idee! ;)

We zullen het forum toevoegen aan het illustere, zij het wat korte, lijstje van locaties waar Nederlands wordt gesproken :P

Don't forget, President Trump will make Germany I mean America great again!

I have given this more thought. And made in America is even LESS important than I thought.

If made in America means ...made in California...or made in Maine or made in Kentucky...

Then really it's the same as made in China to me. I don't live anywhere near those areas. There's nothing local about being 5 States away. I don't visit these places or do business with them. They might as well all be China or turkey or Madagascar.

Made in America ...humbug and harrumph!

Let's try an exercise in reality.

Pick two:

1. X-Wing exists.

2. X-Wing is affordable.

3. X-Wing is expensive.

Let's try an exercise in reality.

Pick two:

1. X-Wing exists.

2. X-Wing is affordable.

3. X-Wing is expensive.

2 & 3 please.

I have given this more thought. And made in America is even LESS important than I thought.

If made in America means ...made in California...or made in Maine or made in Kentucky...

Doesn´t ´made in America´ also mean it might have been made in Canada, Peru, Mexico, Chile, Brazil, Suriname, French Guyana, Honduras, Belize, Panama, El Salvador, etc.?

After all you can´t claim the title of all of the Americas just for one country.... can you....? :P

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Off-topic forum is where this belongs.

Probably 30% of the stuff that gets posted in the general forum belongs in a subforum.

China makes good stuff and crap stuff, just like any other country. However, they are still very capable of making high quality goods. The MacBook Pro I'm on right now is Made in China for example, though I find it funny it still says "Designed in California".

Ignore this, the wonders of train internet creating two posts.

And no, it's not because my computer was made in China.

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If you want to discuss the morals of capitalism, any chance you could piss off to the Off Topic section to do it? You can all pretend you know exactly what goes on in Chinese factories, how much people get paid and self-congratulate yourselves all until you go blind quite happily there.

You don't even need to pretend it's about X-Wing miniatures by throwing in the odd comment now and then.

Cheers

Baaa

It's pretty f'n obvious what goes on there

During their Olympics a few years ago they had to use C.G for the sun because you couldn't even see it from the amount of smog

About 80% of their water is undrinkable due to our standards.

Villages where most of the people have cancer.

Water with high amounts of unsafe metal content.

I'm sorry but China is not a good place

I wish the world would hold them accountable because what they do there is effecting the planet.

Hell when I was in Japan one year the sun looked silver, which was due to the smog that the wind took over from China

And if anyone reads the news China is claiming everything in the water around them belongs to them.

China and Japan have nearly gone to war over a small group of islands

Which is funny, in the 70 America and Japan signed the treaty of San Francisco, which at the time China said nothing about, until a decade later when they realized it possibly had an abundance of oil, now China claims it is theirs.

It's not the citizens fault, and I feel bad for those who cannot leave, but China is a dirty dirty country

If you want to discuss the morals of capitalism, any chance you could piss off to the Off Topic section to do it? You can all pretend you know exactly what goes on in Chinese factories, how much people get paid and self-congratulate yourselves all until you go blind quite happily there.

You don't even need to pretend it's about X-Wing miniatures by throwing in the odd comment now and then.

Cheers

Baaa

Pretend?

It's pretty f'n obvious what goes on there

During their Olympics a few years ago they had to use C.G for the sun because you couldn't even see it from the amount of smog

About 80% of their water is undrinkable due to our standards.

Villages where most of the people have cancer.

Water with high amounts of unsafe metal content.

I'm sorry but China is not a good place

I wish the world would hold them accountable because what they do there is effecting the planet.

Hell when I was in Japan one year the sun looked silver, which was due to the smog that the wind took over from China

And if anyone reads the news China is claiming everything in the water around them belongs to them.

China and Japan have nearly gone to war over a small group of islands

Which is funny, in the 70 America and Japan signed the treaty of San Francisco, which at the time China said nothing about, until a decade later when they realized it possibly had an abundance of oil, now China claims it is theirs.

It's not the citizens fault, and I feel bad for those who cannot leave, but China is a dirty dirty country

Hey,

I'm not stopping you or anyone else getting on your moral high horses, or criticising anyone when they're up there, I'm just wondering why it's not happening where it should. The Off Topic forum.

Cheers

Baaa

Let's try an exercise in reality.

Pick two:

1. X-Wing exists.

2. X-Wing is affordable.

3. X-Wing is expensive.

Pick two:

X-wing is a great game

X-wing is affordable

X-wing is made in a country that pays its workers well/nonslave labor

X-wing includes Gunboat, Avenger and Missile Boat

Thing is, "made in china" is seen as a "bad" thing (lower quality, sweatshops). I wonder what it'd be like if they had "Proudly made by the People's Republic of China"

At one time, "Made in Japan" was also seen as a bad thing.

But Doc, all the best stuff is made in Japan.

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Unbelievable.

I believe one of the reasons Japan and Korea make great electronics is that they have a very study-oriented education system (sometimes to excess).

america's education, apart a few ivy leagues universities, is in a very sad state. I have a PhD in physics from Cambridge and I cannot understand math problems given to kids in america. for example, they use a very strange approach where they teach that 3x5 is different from 5x3, because they think that the commutative property of multiplication is something you have to learn later, so kids who know the commutative property are marked down as giving the wrong answer.

I believe one of the reasons Japan and Korea make great electronics is that they have a very study-oriented education system (sometimes to excess).

america's education, apart a few ivy leagues universities, is in a very sad state. I have a PhD in physics from Cambridge and I cannot understand math problems given to kids in america. for example, they use a very strange approach where they teach that 3x5 is different from 5x3, because they think that the commutative property of multiplication is something you have to learn later, so kids who know the commutative property are marked down as giving the wrong answer.

Well, USA are a big country, with very different educational sectors. A 16 years student in Massachusetts probably have a very different approach to maths, biology o physics than a West Virginia one.
It's like saying that all the scum ships are lackluster, just because of the scyk, forgetting about the agressor.
(But yes, korean and Japanesse scholls are like TD defenders or uboat factories)

I believe one of the reasons Japan and Korea make great electronics is that they have a very study-oriented education system (sometimes to excess).

america's education, apart a few ivy leagues universities, is in a very sad state. I have a PhD in physics from Cambridge and I cannot understand math problems given to kids in america. for example, they use a very strange approach where they teach that 3x5 is different from 5x3, because they think that the commutative property of multiplication is something you have to learn later, so kids who know the commutative property are marked down as giving the wrong answer.

Well, USA are a big country, with very different educational sectors. A 16 years student in Massachusetts probably have a very different approach to maths, biology o physics than a West Virginia one.
It's like saying that all the scum ships are lackluster, just because of the scyk, forgetting about the agressor.
(But yes, korean and Japanesse scholls are like TD defenders or uboat factories)

the strange and confusing system I mentioned with regard to the commutative property is used in every state and so it affects all american kids

I believe one of the reasons Japan and Korea make great electronics is that they have a very study-oriented education system (sometimes to excess).

america's education, apart a few ivy leagues universities, is in a very sad state. I have a PhD in physics from Cambridge and I cannot understand math problems given to kids in america. for example, they use a very strange approach where they teach that 3x5 is different from 5x3, because they think that the commutative property of multiplication is something you have to learn later, so kids who know the commutative property are marked down as giving the wrong answer.

Well, USA are a big country, with very different educational sectors. A 16 years student in Massachusetts probably have a very different approach to maths, biology o physics than a West Virginia one.
It's like saying that all the scum ships are lackluster, just because of the scyk, forgetting about the agressor.
(But yes, korean and Japanesse scholls are like TD defenders or uboat factories)

the strange and confusing system I mentioned with regard to the commutative property is used in every state and so it affects all american kids

Even the most staunchest defenders of the core system, generally accept that the teacher in question was too strict whith that poor child (even without taking in account the conmutative property, the english definition of an array doesn't invalidate the student answer).
It's like the punisher, even without guidance chips it have some valid uses.

I believe one of the reasons Japan and Korea make great electronics is that they have a very study-oriented education system (sometimes to excess).

america's education, apart a few ivy leagues universities, is in a very sad state. I have a PhD in physics from Cambridge and I cannot understand math problems given to kids in america. for example, they use a very strange approach where they teach that 3x5 is different from 5x3, because they think that the commutative property of multiplication is something you have to learn later, so kids who know the commutative property are marked down as giving the wrong answer.

Well, USA are a big country, with very different educational sectors. A 16 years student in Massachusetts probably have a very different approach to maths, biology o physics than a West Virginia one.
It's like saying that all the scum ships are lackluster, just because of the scyk, forgetting about the agressor.
(But yes, korean and Japanesse scholls are like TD defenders or uboat factories)

the strange and confusing system I mentioned with regard to the commutative property is used in every state and so it affects all american kids

Even the most staunchest defenders of the core system, generally accept that the teacher in question was too strict whith that poor child (even without taking in account the conmutative property, the english definition of an array doesn't invalidate the student answer).
It's like the punisher, even without guidance chips it have some valid uses.

I was not referring only to that specific example in particular. The one thing the USA system is good at is teaching rethoric where, for example, you ignore a pretty substantial criticism of an education system (somebody with a PhD in physics from Cambridge has a hard time understanding american math homework assignments) while creating a straw man argument (hey look, criticism of the education system was based on a famous internet meme where everybody agreed it was the teacher being too strict) which you can easily defeat by creating consensus that of course, the core system is not so bad and has its uses, because it was the teacher's fault.

hint: a good reply would be to imply that it's OK I have a hard time understanding math homework because [insert here something witty, like mine is just an anecdote and not scientific data and doesn't prove the education system is substantially flawed]

PS: a corollary is that I think USA produces the best lawyers

Edited by XBear

... I have a PhD in physics from Cambridge...

Any chance you could explain (in a language that most of us will understand) exactly how a Lightsaber works?

Cheers

Baaa

I believe one of the reasons Japan and Korea make great electronics is that they have a very study-oriented education system (sometimes to excess).

america's education, apart a few ivy leagues universities, is in a very sad state. I have a PhD in physics from Cambridge and I cannot understand math problems given to kids in america. for example, they use a very strange approach where they teach that 3x5 is different from 5x3, because they think that the commutative property of multiplication is something you have to learn later, so kids who know the commutative property are marked down as giving the wrong answer.

One of the guys I worked with some years ago brought in a problem that his 6th grade daughter brought home. I had to go to Mark's Handbook for Mechanical Engineers to solve it! Sixth grade? I don't have the answer but I have a lot of questions on where the administrators are coming up with this "core curriculum".

... I have a PhD in physics from Cambridge...

Any chance you could explain (in a language that most of us will understand) exactly how a Lightsaber works?

Cheers

Baaa

my theory is that the hilt has some kind of gravity generator that bends spacetime, and a laser generator, because light follows the curve of spacetime (that is why light bends around heavy objects that significantly bend spacetime, like stars).

since light is trapped in the limited space, it creates a lightsaber.

the gravity field could also explain why two lightsabers don't simply pass through each other but instead collide like substantial objects, if the gravity is shaped in such a way as to create repulsion between the two fields.

PS: of course the above is rather imaginary and it may not even be physically possible, I'm going off some possible undiscovered physical effect since our knowledge is far from complete

... I have a PhD in physics from Cambridge...

Any chance you could explain (in a language that most of us will understand) exactly how a Lightsaber works?

Cheers

Baaa

That's easy. FM

... I have a PhD in physics from Cambridge...

Any chance you could explain (in a language that most of us will understand) exactly how a Lightsaber works?

Cheers

Baaa

my theory is that the hilt has some kind of gravity generator that bends spacetime, and a laser generator, because light follows the curve of spacetime (that is why light bends around heavy objects that significantly bend spacetime, like stars).

since light is trapped in the limited space, it creates a lightsaber.

the gravity field could also explain why two lightsabers don't simply pass through each other but instead collide like substantial objects, if the gravity is shaped in such a way as to create repulsion between the two fields.

PS: of course the above is rather imaginary and it may not even be physically possible, I'm going off some possible undiscovered physical effect since our knowledge is far from complete

Sooooooooo,

What you're saying is that they're not real?

Bummer.

Cheers

Baaa