But you said you're still gonna buy X-Wing stuff. I don't understand your complaint. ???

I want to continue to buy like a crazy person... but now I have to be sane... and dammit I don't like it!

If you live in an area where no GS is L, I'm sorry but you are SOL.

This was me for a very long time. The entire 15 years I've lived here.

Now I have a GS though it seems to be set as more for G than S. In that it is a Game club that charges membership and sells stuff as well. They are super F, and and only about a forty five minute drive away so L enough.

I can't believe I am lucky enough to actually hit all four letters!

FLGS!!! Awesome.

You spoiled people that have had them all along don't know how good you've had it or how meaningless your words against online and for brick and mortar are sometimes.

My FLGS actually has been price matching Amazon and I think they're doing that up until our last regionals in June.

<3 my FLGS.

Yes, that's all Mouse Affair

the big brother is watching us!

sometimes it seems it looks exactly like this xD

Ahh, this will be fun.

Let people call me stupid for paying MSRP for a Jumpmaster yesterday...

Perhaps not irrational, but certainly misguided, IMO. In my experience, people who buy online put in one big order a wave and then also buy at the LGS whenever there is some impulse idea they wanna try.

In any case, most LGS's order the kits because the players want them and will pay for them with event entrance fees. Some places are exceptions and do more for their players (aka Pasttimes in Niles, a Chicago suburb).

All I am saying is this policy change is going to screw the player base, who should be the last person FFG wants to harm.

Companies do not stay profitable long term by selling to current customers. In order to stay in business, you must attract new customers. Asmodee believes that LGS will bring in enough new customers to make up for decreased sales from folks like you and I.

edit: speling

Then Asmodee is on crack. The gamer pie is only so big. You aren't going to increase a player base by INCREASING the cost to get into the game -- which is effectively what they are doing by eliminating discount online distribution channels.

Perhaps it's only semantics but...

Prices have not gone up. The discounts on some places have decreased, but the MSRP hasn't changed.

I think it is semantics as the real net effect is that alot of us will buy a helluva lot less FFG product. I love this game but FFG / Asmodee is being stupid. Do their margins increase on sales to the distribution companies like ACD? Nope...they still make the same.

All this does is make it harder for the customer who was inclined to buy metric craptons of their product be unable to do so at reasonable prices. I would NEVER have bought 3 slavers or 3 jumpmasters at MSRP.

Their focus on the LGS is irrational and may very well backfire.

At least we got our main forces before the price hike... now all we have to do is keep up. New players will be less apt to collect like guys like us... used to collect.

Companies do not stay profitable long term by selling to current customers. In order to stay in business, you must attract new customers. Asmodee believes that LGS will bring in enough new customers to make up for decreased sales from folks like you and I.

edit: speling

Then Asmodee is on crack. The gamer pie is only so big. You aren't going to increase a player base by INCREASING the cost to get into the game -- which is effectively what they are doing by eliminating discount online distribution channels.

Yup!

I agree, Joe.

And Sithborg, if you want to spend 30% more than you could have to buy local that is your business. Your reasons are your own. Personally, I would do it when buying only one ship and if I want it immediately, but if I am buying 2 ghosts, 3 jumps, 3, mists, 3 tie adv proto, you can bet I REALLY don't want to pay MSRP for them.

We are talking about 2-6 dollars per expansion. Yes, it adds up. But, this is also a luxury item.

Sounds like CM and MM set their original prices at an unsustainable rate. They should have controlled their pricing to account for inflation and market fluctuation. It's costing them customers now.

Thankfully Asmodee realized this is a problem and moved to control the pricing of their product in the future.

Perhaps not irrational, but certainly misguided, IMO.

Considering they have data available to them that you don't... I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, and say they can form an educated opinion, something you and I can't.

All I am saying is this policy change is going to screw the player base

That's another assumption on your part.

Ahh, this will be fun.

Let people call me stupid for paying MSRP for a Jumpmaster yesterday...

If you only wanted one then it is fine Brah. But many of us want to have two or three of everything for STAR WARS EPIC Games .

It would appear online discount has gone from ~ 33% to ~ 25% (at least for Miniature Market). The sky lowered a little, but it hasn't fallen.

We are talking about 2-6 dollars per expansion. Yes, it adds up. But, this is also a luxury item.

BOO-HISS!!!

I have a lot more than two or three of things and Ive not bought a single thing online.

I agree, Joe.

And Sithborg, if you want to spend 30% more than you could have to buy local that is your business. Your reasons are your own. Personally, I would do it when buying only one ship and if I want it immediately, but if I am buying 2 ghosts, 3 jumps, 3, mists, 3 tie adv proto, you can bet I REALLY don't want to pay MSRP for them.

A solid half of my collection is MSRP. Which is not insignificant. I paid MSRP for Descent. I pay MSRP for my LCGs.

I understand the financial reasons why people want the old prices. But, you have to understand, there is some very dangerous long term issues with that thinking. I want more games like Rebellion, Ghostbusters, TMNT: Shadows of the Past to me made. But you can't when the value of the game is so weakened, that you have to make the game with cheaper components to match people's expectations for price.

Companies do not stay profitable long term by selling to current customers. In order to stay in business, you must attract new customers. Asmodee believes that LGS will bring in enough new customers to make up for decreased sales from folks like you and I.

edit: speling

Then Asmodee is on crack. The gamer pie is only so big. You aren't going to increase a player base by INCREASING the cost to get into the game -- which is effectively what they are doing by eliminating discount online distribution channels.

That is just the thing right there. The existing "gamer pie" is not where Asmodee expects to make their money. Board games are exploding right now and the available player base for this game is growing as well. You are not the intended audience for their pricing policy.

You aren't going to increase a player base by INCREASING the cost to get into the game

X-Wing is still one of, if not the cheapest game out there. The discount online is still huge compared to other games.

Infinity for example has about a 8% discount, and other games it's about the same. X-Wing's 25% discount is still very attractive.

We are talking about 2-6 dollars per expansion. Yes, it adds up. But, this is also a luxury item.

How is that even an argument?

I can't even comprehend that. Money is money. Money represents hours of my life. Who gives a **** what the category of the expenditure is? Would it be more upsetting if it were raising prices on meds?

I don't get it.....The point is you want to support the LGS as the Manufacturer? Fine. There are better ways to do it then screwing the End Customer.

You can get into X Wing for half the cost of one 40K squad.

As someone that has collected many mini games over the decades, X-Wing is insanely affordable.

What is truly interesting is that if MM, CoolMinis, et al had been selling at 25% discount this whole time and Asmodee made changes that caused them to go to 15% or 20%, people would be complaining that they didn't have 25% discount. No one would be calling for 33% discount.

In other words, you are only complaining about the "new" price because you at one point had the old price. If you had previously had the current price, you wouldn't complain about it. Therefore, it is not about the actual price, but about your perception of policy.

We are talking about 2-6 dollars per expansion. Yes, it adds up. But, this is also a luxury item.

How is that even an argument?

I can't even comprehend that. Money is money. Money represents hours of my life. Who gives a **** what the category of the expenditure is? Would it be more upsetting if it were raising prices on meds?

I don't get it.....The point is you want to support the LGS as the Manufacturer? Fine. There are better ways to do it then screwing the End Customer.

Except it isn't just about the LGS. It is about the long term valuation of these high end games. That idea is already extremely prevalent in the boardgame and kickstarter community.

Perhaps not irrational, but certainly misguided, IMO.

Considering they have data available to them that you don't... I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, and say they can form an educated opinion, something you and I can't.

All I am saying is this policy change is going to screw the player base

That's another assumption on your part.

When does something move from the realm of assumption to fact? When I as a player want to place an order for 2 Ghosts and those Ghosts now cost me $50 per as opposed to $35? That $30 difference represents an hour and change of my life. If that's not me getting screwed, I'm not sure that I can put it in terms you would relate to.