Flame of the West, New Saga

By Supertoe, in The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game

So glad they decided to just go with Tactics hero Eowyn with 4 willpower and all. This is a merry day for LOTR LCG.

Agreed. So very glad FFG broke with precedent and gave us an Eowyn worthy of her finest moment in the novels. The first female tactics hero in the game and one that looks very fun to play.

Edited by RobOz

Glaurung! You're back! Did you enjoy The Battle of Carn Dum? ;)

Oh, and how about that box cover art, too!

On a slightly different note, thinking ahead to the Fellowship Event this year, I bet we see a play-mat with Return of the King art on it. The previous Events had play-mats from Fellowship and then Two Towers. Seems like ROTK fits the pattern. But as I mentioned above, FFG just showed us they will break precedent, so who knows.

Here is a funny thing. Each time I've designed and shared a custom Tactics Eowyn, various people told me she was overpowered. And now official Tactics Eowyn comes out, more powerful than any Eowyn I've ever designed :D

The Flame of the West introduces a new version of Aragorn (The Flame of the West, 1) to lead you, as well as two new heroes, two boons, and thirty player cards (three copies each of ten different cards) divided between the four spheres of influence.

Agreed, new Tactics Eowyn looks very promising. So now I wonder, who is the last hero. We are getting Aragorn, Eowyn and ... ? What your guess ? :)

So this is what it was, they were waiting with the announcement for April 26th -- An Unexpected Party.

…sarcasm

Here is a funny thing. Each time I've designed and shared a custom Tactics Eowyn, various people told me she was overpowered. And now official Tactics Eowyn comes out, more powerful than any Eowyn I've ever designed :D

You still have those? I'm curious how close you got with your designs. :)

The Flame of the West introduces a new version of Aragorn (The Flame of the West, 1) to lead you, as well as two new heroes, two boons, and thirty player cards (three copies each of ten different cards) divided between the four spheres of influence.

Agreed, new Tactics Eowyn looks very promising. So now I wonder, who is the last hero. We are getting Aragorn, Eowyn and ... ? What your guess ? :)

im guessing maybe faramir(unlikely), or maybe imrahil, or spirit beregond(unlikely)

or maybe one of the many people in that songin the books who died:P idk

The Flame of the West introduces a new version of Aragorn (The Flame of the West, 1) to lead you, as well as two new heroes, two boons, and thirty player cards (three copies each of ten different cards) divided between the four spheres of influence.

Agreed, new Tactics Eowyn looks very promising. So now I wonder, who is the last hero. We are getting Aragorn, Eowyn and ... ? What your guess ? :)

I'm hoping for Leadership Denethor personally. Though Flight of the Stormcaller has a Leadership hero which I imagine could be Gondor. So I'm really not sure.

I do think that the second hero in the box will be Gondor, but maybe it could be Spirit? I don't think that we'll get a third Lore hero in a row.

I also think that it'll be a fairly big main character. So Denethor seems most likely to me, or maybe Imrahil. I can't think of any others off the top of my head who are central characters.

So, the second hero must be Éomer, right? He's not in the core set or in any previous saga. And almost certainly Leadership as he will become king by the end of the third quest. The three Rohan heroes from this box and Treason will probably make good decks...

But again, what of the allies? I am hoping one for each sphere: Imrahil is given, right? Beregond, too. Denethor should as well unless he is an objective (or even enemy, hope not). Then, I was hoping for Merry and Pippin… hmm. They mention Gondor and Rohan traits, so either there will be no Hobbits or they will have gained the traits of their allegiance.

I personally hope Éomer is a Tactics or Leadership ally. If he was a hero that'd be 2 Rohan heroes in the mostly Gondor box. I bet the other hero will be Gondor, hopefully Leadership. For allies, all that Fingolfin said. Thinking of Leadership Pippin and Tactics Merry.

Man, I just can't stop thinking how awesome Tactics Eowyn is (can't believe I'm really saying that), and even though I was expecting a Magali art, it is still so badass. I like it a lot.

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So, the second hero must be Éomer, right? He's not in the core set or in any previous saga.

*snipped for emphasis*

That's odd, Eowyn is in the core set and now we have a new one for this saga. I do remember they wanted to avoid repeat heroes. I guess that rule doesn't apply anymore (which I'm glad, Eowyn tactics is amazing!). Rules are meant to be broken I guess haha

Here is a funny thing. Each time I've designed and shared a custom Tactics Eowyn, various people told me she was overpowered. And now official Tactics Eowyn comes out, more powerful than any Eowyn I've ever designed :D

You still have those? I'm curious how close you got with your designs. :)

Right now I'm at work, so no, unfortunately I don't have them.

If I remember correctly, the closest I've ever got among the Tactics Eowyns I did was the one with 4/1/1/3 and text:

Response: After Eowyn quests successfuly, she gets +2 Attack until the end of the round.

I do remember they wanted to avoid repeat heroes. I guess that rule doesn't apply anymore (which I'm glad, Eowyn tactics is amazing!). Rules are meant to be broken I guess haha

Clearly Eowyn disguised herself as an Adventure Pack hero during playtesting.

So now I wonder, who is the last hero. We are getting Aragorn, Eowyn and ... ? What your guess ? :)

Since it seems it will be a Gondor hero, I would bet it would be Imrahil or Beregond (most probably Imrahil). I do not bet on Denethor as he was not "at charge" during the siege, but maybe he will be an objective card for a quest card or something

Wow, you guys are persuading me from Éomer. I thought he was the safest bet (beside Fellowship Aragorn) for the box, much safer than Éowyn. I do like the look of her new version way better than the Spirit one, so I am perfectly happy for the hero, though I still think they could achieve similar effect with a Dernhlem attachment (except the set-up threat discount).

Back to the other hero topic. Éomer surely plays a larger role within these chapters than any other candidate, except for Denethor (I am not considering characters who we got in previous saga: Théoden, Faramir, Merry, Pippin). Now, if they have made Éowyn, perhaps they will go for Denethor as well. And then, we might get Éomer in the last box?

Saving Éomer for the last box and having Denethor as the other hero would make Imrahil, Beregond, Merry, Pippin easy choices for allies. However, as much I would like to see them in ally versions, I have my doubts about the Hobbits, more so since the article doesn't mention their traits.

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Good lord, Tactics Eowyn is ridonkulously OP.

Denethor managed to keep things together during the seige until right at the end. Directing troops to defend Osgiliath so that Minis Tirith would not be besieged directly, and sending out riders to gather help from Rohan were good tactical moves.

Perhaps a hero version of him in this box could have an ability tied to threat increase. Showing that his actions, however valiant, were ultimately doomed.

It's fun to speculate at least.

Pretty blown away by Eowyn. The new Aragorn is no slouch either!

At six threat all you get is her raw stats (4 will is great but 1/1/3 sucks)

Seriouly? 4 wp for 6 threat in tactics mate...nuff said

Oh, and how about that box cover art, too!.

Yea I agree, it's awesome! This box art for fellowship playmat 2016 please!

Anyway, my 2 cents: I really like tactics Eowyn. Opens up new tactics play!

I believe that Eowyn -in solo- will pair well with Eomer. A tactis hero to quest, a tactics hero to attack and the other one can be either Tactics or Spirit Theodred, depending on what player woud like to have. Or else have Beregond as a third hero and each hero can make a job in his field

At six threat all you get is her raw stats (4 will is great but 1/1/3 sucks)

Seriouly? 4 wp for 6 threat in tactics mate...nuff said

Oh, and how about that box cover art, too!.

Yea I agree, it's awesome! This box art for fellowship playmat 2016 please!

Anyway, my 2 cents: I really like tactics Eowyn. Opens up new tactics play!

However that being said I would choose a hero with a nice repeatable powerful effect and average stats over a hero with great base stats and no ability every single time.

Also I think tactics of all spheres definitely deserves a 4 will, 6 threat cost hero more than any other. Mono tactics is far more doable now and she boosts Rohan massively as well.

couldn't agree more re the playmat, god I hope it uses the art from the cover...

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There has to be Elladan and Elrohir allies in this set.

I am the only one which is intrigued by the wording in Eowyn? Why her ability is "Once per game for the group", and not just "Once per game"?

EDIT: Ok, I just googled, and discovered that the "Once per game" is a limit for each player... I just didn't know that rule.

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I am the only one which is intrigued by the wording in Eowyn? Why her ability is "Once per game for the group", and not just "Once per game"?

The wording "Once per game for the group" prevents from giving Eowyn to another player. So her ability can only be used by one player in the entire game.

For instance, the "Once per game" effect of Lore Aragorn can be used by each player of the game if using Desperate alliance.

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I think it's the first time we have this wording "Once per game for the group".

It's weird that Eowyn has not gained the Warrior trait.

I'm pretty sure the autor illustration of the box is Chris Rahn. Love so much is work. :wub:

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I just thought that all "once per game" were referred to players as a group, that's why I found no sense in Eowyn's wording. All clear now.