Flame of the West, New Saga

By Supertoe, in The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game

What about Gandalf the White as the third hero ? Bergil and Ioreth as allies ? :)

I do not think there will be another Gandalf hero ... In order for the new one to have an ability to use him instead of the one already exists it should be something like "exhaust Gandalf and win the game" or something

I do believe as written above we will have Elrohir and Elladan allies though

Pretty sure Gandalf the White is already in the game in form of Gandalf hero + Beyond All Hope boon. This is as close to Gandalf the White as it gets, pals.

Edited by John Constantine

I´m 90% on Imrahil (spirit?) in this box, as it will not be a second Rohan hero with Eowyn, and Imrahil plays a very big part in the story during the 5th book.

Allies: Elladan, Elrohir, Beregond, Bergil maybe? And Merry/Pippin allies in the last one?

Like I said in another post before: this game will not be complete for ME if we dont get a Gandalf the White card. Gandalf plus beyond all hope is a pretty situacional card in a especific quest. I would like to see a REAL Gandalf the White card.i know it could be too powerfull but It could have something like ally limit one per deck or something else. He is one of the most importants and awesome characters in the lore, Im impressed that people dont seen to want his card too.

Oh..... oh..... oh..... 1 min, wc.

Uf, i have fallen in love. Really really the most beautifull woman ever painted to me.

PD: and Magalli still works! Sometime we said something about she closed her job in LOTR ^^ (it could be another reason for 1st april Beorn article ^^)

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Glaurung! You're back! Did you enjoy The Battle of Carn Dum? ;)

Actually i was here all the time.. just observe didn post nothing. Carn dum is cool! and the last quest in cycle as well. I got Ruins of Belegost and love this one! But i cannot win solo! I need to make some new powerful deck!

Pretty sure Gandalf the White is already in the game in form of Gandalf hero + Beyond All Hope boon. This is as close to Gandalf the White as it gets, pals.

In that case perhaps Gandalf could appear as an objective ally . I forgot to mention that I would love to see Halbarad as an ally :)

Like I said in another post before: this game will not be complete for ME if we dont get a Gandalf the White card. Gandalf plus beyond all hope is a pretty situacional card in a especific quest. I would like to see a REAL Gandalf the White card.i know it could be too powerfull but It could have thing like ally limit one per deck or something else. He is one of the most importants and awesome characters in the lore, Im impressed that people dont seen to want his card too.

Also the hero is stupidly powerful, has more toys than any other hero and is neutral so can slot into so many lineups and decks.

furthermore Gandalf the Grey and Gandalf the White are the same person.. yes he dies and comes back but it is the same individual in the end so why can't the hero we already have represent both versions?

Don't get me wrong I totally see where you are coming from and yes he is an integral character but we have 3 versions of Gandalf already as well as the boon Beyond all Hope. I feel like the vast majority of characters deserve a second or even third version way before Gandalf does.

Sorry to be harsh but I really don't think we need or will see a version of Gandalf that is specifically Gandalf the White. I'm pretty sure we would already have him (in Treason of Saruman) if FFG were going to make him.

I love that there are so many others that want new versions of the twins... really really hope we get them....

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Glaurung! You're back! Did you enjoy The Battle of Carn Dum? ;)

Actually i was here all the time.. just observe didn post nothing. Carn dum is cool! and the last quest in cycle as well. I got Ruins of Belegost and love this one! But i cannot win solo! I need to make some new powerful deck!

Just chiming in to say I really like how that Eowyn card plays - being able to pull off a big shot when needed gives the player a nice option. Plus, the card art looks really solid. This looks to be a great box, even if it has another Aragorn.

Like I said in another post before: this game will not be complete for ME if we dont get a Gandalf the White card. Gandalf plus beyond all hope is a pretty situacional card in a especific quest. I would like to see a REAL Gandalf the White card.i know it could be too powerfull but It could have something like ally limit one per deck or something else. He is one of the most importants and awesome characters in the lore, Im impressed that people dont seen to want his card too.

Well, then I have bad news for you...

Wow...Tactics Eowyn is bonkers...

I'm glad that they gave Tactics access to some willpower as I do believe they were the weakest of all the spheres, primarily due to not having enough willpower, but...6 threat for 4 willpower is crazy. You can just choose to never use her ability if you desired. At worst she is 9 threat for 4 willpower in Tactics which is something a great many players would gladly opt for.

Combines with Spirit Glorfindel and Arwin... LOL!!! Now that's a lot of pure solo power!!!

If you are right and the only way to play the might Gandalf the White (Gandalf the Gray is not the same, at least not for me) in this game is IF i use him in campaign and IF he dies and IF i get the boon ill be disapointed . I know we got lots of his version but Aragorn already has a lot too and we keep seeing him coming. This game is about decisions and cooperation, if there was another version the players should decide if its worth or not to play him. Agree that we should get priorities versions in another characters like the brothers but this guy is a big deal in history and so far he is playable only by a boon.

And just like that, mono-tactics became a thing. Even with no ability Eowyn would have seen a lot of play... but her ability (though limited) can be suitably epic. They did a great job thematically with this card, but I can see it being used in almost any deck that includes more than one tactics hero.

The game is set before Frodo's journey from The Shire begins so Gandalf the White doesn't really exist outside the saga campaign.

The game is set before Frodo's journey from The Shire begins so Gandalf the White doesn't really exist outside the saga campaign.

While I'm not urging to get a Gandalf the White hero for all the reasons Psychorocka mentioned, I'm not sure if I agree with this argument. By that logic, Tactics Eowyn, aka Dernhelm, shouldn't be a hero either, since she only became a badass warrior in the novels as well (not to mention that, if the game is so strictly set in that 17 year period we shouldn't have adult versions of her.)

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The game is set before Frodo's journey from The Shire begins so Gandalf the White doesn't really exist outside the saga campaign.

While I'm not urging to get a Gandalf the White hero for all the reasons Psychorocka mentioned, I'm not sure if I agree with this argument. By that logic, Tactics Eowyn, aka Dernhelm, shouldn't be a hero either, since she only became a badass warrior in the novels as well (not to mention that, if the game is so strictly set in that 17 year period we shouldn't have adult versions of her.)

But that's why she's a Hero in the Saga Expansions.

The game is set before Frodo's journey from The Shire begins so Gandalf the White doesn't really exist outside the saga campaign.

While I'm not urging to get a Gandalf the White hero for all the reasons Psychorocka mentioned, I'm not sure if I agree with this argument. By that logic, Tactics Eowyn, aka Dernhelm, shouldn't be a hero either, since she only became a badass warrior in the novels as well (not to mention that, if the game is so strictly set in that 17 year period we shouldn't have adult versions of her.)

But that's why she's a Hero in the Saga Expansions.

But if that's the argument, what's stopping Gandalf the White from being a hero released in a saga expansion?

The game is set before Frodo's journey from The Shire begins so Gandalf the White doesn't really exist outside the saga campaign.

While I'm not urging to get a Gandalf the White hero for all the reasons Psychorocka mentioned, I'm not sure if I agree with this argument. By that logic, Tactics Eowyn, aka Dernhelm, shouldn't be a hero either, since she only became a badass warrior in the novels as well (not to mention that, if the game is so strictly set in that 17 year period we shouldn't have adult versions of her.)

But that's why she's a Hero in the Saga Expansions.

But if that's the argument, what's stopping Gandalf the White from being a hero released in a saga expansion?

If that were the only argument, then nothing.

And just like that, mono-tactics became a thing. Even with no ability Eowyn would have seen a lot of play... but her ability (though limited) can be suitably epic. They did a great job thematically with this card, but I can see it being used in almost any deck that includes more than one tactics hero.

She makes a great splash hero too, you don't need 2 Tactics heroes. Merry was previously the best Tactics hero for keeping threat down and getting access to weapons for Haldir, Gondorian shield, etc. Now Merry has some real competition.

I wouldn't mind seeing a new Gandalf hero outside the saga, a leadership or spirit version depicted in white with some sort of one-time awesome death/resurrection effect. Within the saga I think Gandalf + Beyond All Hope perfectly represents Gandalf the White thematically.

The game is set before Frodo's journey from The Shire begins so Gandalf the White doesn't really exist outside the saga campaign.

While I'm not urging to get a Gandalf the White hero for all the reasons Psychorocka mentioned, I'm not sure if I agree with this argument. By that logic, Tactics Eowyn, aka Dernhelm, shouldn't be a hero either, since she only became a badass warrior in the novels as well (not to mention that, if the game is so strictly set in that 17 year period we shouldn't have adult versions of her.)

But that's why she's a Hero in the Saga Expansions.

But if that's the argument, what's stopping Gandalf the White from being a hero released in a saga expansion?

If that were the only argument, then nothing.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Just because the rest of the game takes place before the main action of books doesn't mean we can't get cards depicting stuff that only happened in the books. I'd love to have an Andúril attachment, for instance.

The game is set before Frodo's journey from The Shire begins so Gandalf the White doesn't really exist outside the saga campaign.

While I'm not urging to get a Gandalf the White hero for all the reasons Psychorocka mentioned, I'm not sure if I agree with this argument. By that logic, Tactics Eowyn, aka Dernhelm, shouldn't be a hero either, since she only became a badass warrior in the novels as well (not to mention that, if the game is so strictly set in that 17 year period we shouldn't have adult versions of her.)

But that's why she's a Hero in the Saga Expansions.

But if that's the argument, what's stopping Gandalf the White from being a hero released in a saga expansion?

If that were the only argument, then nothing.

That's exactly what I'm saying. Just because the rest of the game takes place before the main action of books doesn't mean we can't get cards depicting stuff that only happened in the books. I'd love to have an Andúril attachment, for instance.

But that is not what I'm saying.