I Want Lt. Ketch.... Yub Yub Commander

You do realize that Ketch was a stuffed bear in a cockpit, right?

Also Wedge did pretend to play another TIE pilot on 2 other occasions - Colonel Antar Roat (with a cybernetic looking faceplate and a glove over ther hand to be a mechanical one.

As for Tych oand Corran in Xwings, i'd love this, I've been hoping for this since December when we all guessed/extrapolated that Maarek was in the Defender too.

That I do. What I am really saying is I want Wedge in an Interceptor with the pilot name Lt. Ketch... Yub Yub Commander

I also want Voort "Piggy" SaBinring so I can put him in a list with Porkins and call it the Bacon Squad

And Garek "Face" Loren so I can create the A-Team

Wedge is the Col.

Garek as faceman

Ten Nunb as Mr. T

and Corran as Murdock

I know it is more than 100 pts but still cool

Interesting ideas for upgrades and good to see I am not alone in my wish to see some pilots where they belong.

I have regularly bombed threads with the wish for a Corsec Green X-Wing

The X-Wing seems to me slightly expensive pointswise to what it can deliver.

Especially in terms of survivability and movement.

Adding the Barrel Roll action would be my preference as it is a move it regularly undertakes in the Rogue Squadron novels.

Another would be the system slot to bring it in line with B- and E-Wings

With Maarek returning to his videogame favourite, there is no denying Tycho Celchu and Corran Horn shall appear in a

T-65 X-Wing!

FFG, PLEASE MAKE IT A CORSEC GREEN ONE !

Search your feelings, You know it to be true.....

Perhaps with an actual T-65 fix...

Rouge Squadron pilot title card

makes red maneuvers white

makes white maneuvers green

Can take a systems slot

can only be equipped to PS7+ pilots

or add a S-Loop (corillian slip?)

The X-wing doesn't need more tricks, it just needs to survive long enough to justify sinking the points into getting one.

Hence the idea about a reroll or blank-to-evade convert with green dice. You can't just give the T-65 more green dice without showing up the E-wing, and it makes no sense for the T65 to have a higher agility than the T-70 when the latter is clearly faster (green '3' and boost). Equally, with integrated astromech, it can already sustain the same uncancelled damage as a TIE defender, so making it tougher seems wrong.

Where the T-65 should do best is in pilots 'getting the most out of it' since it was the iconic rebel/republic fighter, so extra dice modification seems logical.

In addition, meaningful green dice modification:

a) is actually quite rare outside of TIE interceptors,

b) matches well with the usual complaint about the T-65 that it's too fragile for its very capable but expensive pilots,

c) if not "when defending", makes the green die roll dependent astromechs R5-K6 and R5-D8 more tempting (neither of whom get much play at the moment)

d) by process of © gives you a boost when fielding the X-wing pilots they pair well with (Wes - if we see him - and Porkins respectively).

I was more or less getting fed with all the clowns that want to turn the X-wing into an arc-dodging hyper repositioning ship. I like your idea.

T-65AC4

(In fact in my head canon the T-70 is the T-65AC4 variant of the X-Wing. And trying to make a title of it would just turn it into a T-70 statwise.)

The T-70 is more or less the XJ3 X-wing.

I'm a BIG Corran fan - to the point where I find it difficult to build a list without him.

My issue with Corran in an X-Wing (as much as I think it's a really fluffy idea), is that I think it makes him quite vulnerable. I find Corran can be super tanky and hits like a ton of brinks, which makes him an impressive jouster and difficult to kill late game.

Considering I run a standard Corran (R2-D2, FCS, PTL and EU), having him in an X-wing really limits what he can do. He loses the FCS, making his second shot weaker. The greens on an X-wing are possibly worse (as after Corran double taps, the 2 bank away is a nice set up)

What really harms him is the lack of defence. He loses a green dice and an evade action, making him much more easy to kill. I like how forgiving he can be and can take a bunch of shots to hold off the enemy list, letting other ships in the list go to work.

If he was in an X-wing, PTL looses effectiveness, so I'd probably run him with VI instead. That sounds ok (less stress, so weaker greens not an issue), except the greens are also key for R2-D2. I don't have a problem stressing Corran because I expect him to take a hit so will need to green for regen anway (you learn to fly an E-Wing with greens!

I like X-wings and Corran in one is great, but I'm hoping the E-wing fix will transfer to Corran as well (unlikely thought that may be!)

The X-wing doesn't need more tricks, it just needs to survive long enough to justify sinking the points into getting one.

Hence the idea about a reroll or blank-to-evade convert with green dice. You can't just give the T-65 more green dice without showing up the E-wing, and it makes no sense for the T65 to have a higher agility than the T-70 when the latter is clearly faster (green '3' and boost). Equally, with integrated astromech, it can already sustain the same uncancelled damage as a TIE defender, so making it tougher seems wrong. Where the T-65 should do best is in pilots 'getting the most out of it' since it was the iconic rebel/republic fighter, so extra dice modification seems logical. In addition, meaningful green dice modification:a) is actually quite rare outside of TIE interceptors,b) matches well with the usual complaint about the T-65 that it's too fragile for its very capable but expensive pilots,c) if not "when defending", makes the green die roll dependent astromechs R5-K6 and R5-D8 more tempting (neither of whom get much play at the moment)d) by process of © gives you a boost when fielding the X-wing pilots they pair well with (Wes - if we see him - and Porkins respectively).

I was more or less getting fed with all the clowns that want to turn the X-wing into an arc-dodging hyper repositioning ship. I like your idea.

Couldn't agree more!

I'm a BIG Corran fan - to the point where I find it difficult to build a list without him.

My issue with Corran in an X-Wing (as much as I think it's a really fluffy idea), is that I think it makes him quite vulnerable. I find Corran can be super tanky and hits like a ton of brinks, which makes him an impressive jouster and difficult to kill late game.

Considering I run a standard Corran (R2-D2, FCS, PTL and EU), having him in an X-wing really limits what he can do. He loses the FCS, making his second shot weaker. The greens on an X-wing are possibly worse (as after Corran double taps, the 2 bank away is a nice set up)

What really harms him is the lack of defence. He loses a green dice and an evade action, making him much more easy to kill. I like how forgiving he can be and can take a bunch of shots to hold off the enemy list, letting other ships in the list go to work.

If he was in an X-wing, PTL looses effectiveness, so I'd probably run him with VI instead. That sounds ok (less stress, so weaker greens not an issue), except the greens are also key for R2-D2. I don't have a problem stressing Corran because I expect him to take a hit so will need to green for regen anway (you learn to fly an E-Wing with greens!

I like X-wings and Corran in one is great, but I'm hoping the E-wing fix will transfer to Corran as well (unlikely thought that may be!)

Point, but ffg has a nice record creating compatible named astromechs. My hope is to have Whistler being added to support. Corran in his X-Wing

T-65AC4

(In fact in my head canon the T-70 is the T-65AC4 variant of the X-Wing. And trying to make a title of it would just turn it into a T-70 statwise.)

The T-70 is more or less the XJ3 X-wing.

Not really. The XJ3 has rectangular "Air intakes"

I'm liking the idea of X-wing Tycho with R7-T1 and Push the Limit. Or even R2-F2. He doesn't care much about stress so he can use those astromech actions all the time.

Indeed. Action astromechs would suit him to a tee. Alternatively, R3-A2; there's no reason not to use him at every opportunity.

Of course, the one thing that will matter (compared to him in an A-wing) is that you may find yourself missing that K-turn more.

I'm liking the idea of X-wing Tycho with R7-T1 and Push the Limit. Or even R2-F2. He doesn't care much about stress so he can use those astromech actions all the time.

If you're thinking of running Tycho with that setup try him out in an A-Wing + Expose, PTL, Hull. You're only trading 1 straight for 5 straight.

I think a Tycho X-Wing would do well with SoT + R2 or EH + R2 + EI. Which coincidentally works well on some of the T-70s.

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As pointed out earlier Tycho + R3-A2 would probably be the 'go to' Astromech with either Rage or Wired for EPT.

Tycho PTL R3-A2 (or worse Tycho Rage R3-A2) is not something I want to see. I guess Corran could work although it'd be a bit more underwhelming than his E-wing.

Tycho Rage R3-A2

Depends how much you pay for him. As noted, there's a precedent for X-wing pilots with the same PS being different points, so you can easily up his cost a point or two if he's going to be too good.

Corran in an X-Wing would be fine. Here is why. He would have Whistler.

What do we know about Whistler.

From Wookiepedia:

"An R2-series astromech droid, Whistler was programmed by CorSec with an enhanced sensor package and software useful for piecing together case elements to assist in detective work. Horn personally modified Whistler with escape and evasion subroutines.^[1]"

^{So first things first he has an enhanced sensor package. Thus granting a sensor slot}

^{Second He was modified with escape and evasion subroutines. So he also gets something similar to the x/7.}

^{My thought is this.}

^Whistler

^{Your Action Bar gains the System Slot}

^{When executing a 3 or 4 speed maneuver assign an evade token to your ship.}

^{All straight maneuvers are green.}

^{Cost should be similar to The Emperor or even The Punishing One title as this is a major upgrade.}

^{This does not give the shield regen ability that Corran in the e-wing wants but it does make him as close to the e-wing as he can get.}

^{Just my 2 cents.}

Corran in an X-Wing would be fine. Here is why. He would have Whistler.

What do we know about Whistler.

From Wookiepedia:

"An R2-series astromech droid, Whistler was programmed by CorSec with an enhanced sensor package and software useful for piecing together case elements to assist in detective work. Horn personally modified Whistler with escape and evasion subroutines.^[1]"

^{So first things first he has an enhanced sensor package. Thus granting a sensor slot}

^{Second He was modified with escape and evasion subroutines. So he also gets something similar to the x/7.}

^{My thought is this.}

^Whistler

^{Your Action Bar gains the System Slot}

^{When executing a 3 or 4 speed maneuver assign an evade token to your ship.}

^{All straight maneuvers are green.}

^{Cost should be similar to The Emperor or even The Punishing One title as this is a major upgrade.}

^{This does not give the shield regen ability that Corran in the e-wing wants but it does make him as close to the e-wing as he can get.}

^{Just my 2 cents.}

Looses the regen, loses the ability to evade on tight turns, PTL not as good.

And you want him to pay up to 8 for that - would make Corran in an X-Wing in the 20s for points to make him worth considering over the E-Wing - and that's too cheap.

Having said that, a great astromech for OTHER pilots. Luke and Biggs like it for the evade action.

Corran in an X-Wing would be fine. Here is why. He would have Whistler.

What do we know about Whistler.

From Wookiepedia:

"An R2-series astromech droid, Whistler was programmed by CorSec with an enhanced sensor package and software useful for piecing together case elements to assist in detective work. Horn personally modified Whistler with escape and evasion subroutines.^[1]"

^{So first things first he has an enhanced sensor package. Thus granting a sensor slot}

^{Second He was modified with escape and evasion subroutines. So he also gets something similar to the x/7.}

^{My thought is this.}

^Whistler

^{Your Action Bar gains the System Slot}

^{When executing a 3 or 4 speed maneuver assign an evade token to your ship.}

^{All straight maneuvers are green.}

^{Cost should be similar to The Emperor or even The Punishing One title as this is a major upgrade.}

^{This does not give the shield regen ability that Corran in the e-wing wants but it does make him as close to the e-wing as he can get.}

^{Just my 2 cents.}

So Corran is still demonstrably worse than he is in an E-Wing.

Looses the regen, loses the ability to evade on tight turns, PTL not as good.

And you want him to pay up to 8 for that - would make Corran in an X-Wing in the 20s for points to make him worth considering over the E-Wing - and that's too cheap.

Having said that, a great astromech for OTHER pilots. Luke and Biggs like it for the evade action.

Corran should be worse in an X-wing then he was in an E-wing. He wasn't as in tune to the force while he was in CorSec because he didn't know he was a jedi.

Corran should be worse in an X-wing then he was in an E-wing. He wasn't as in tune to the force while he was in CorSec because he didn't know he was a jedi.

I'm not saying I disagree with that, I'm just pointing out that no-one would really run him in the x-wing then, and it's another wasted x-wing pilot.

T-65AC4

(In fact in my head canon the T-70 is the T-65AC4 variant of the X-Wing. And trying to make a title of it would just turn it into a T-70 statwise.)

The T-70 is more or less the XJ3 X-wing.

Not really. The XJ3 has rectangular "Air intakes"

Aesthetically speaking, you're right, they're totally different. The XJ actually looks good and like a logical evolution of the T-65 where's the T-70 does not. However, the XJ and T-70 essentially have the same functionality in lore.

Mackaywarrior "Corran should be worse in an X-wing then he was in an E-wing. He wasn't as in tune to the force while he was in CorSec because he didn't know he was a jedi."

Well he barely flew an Ewing, again the only possible time he did was when Rogue Squadron flew one in 1 comic book (Crimson Empire) and he may have been in a BWing at the time since they had some in each fighter. He flew an Xwing for years in Corsec and in Rogue Squadron, and after Crimson Empire they went back to Xwings. Hell he flew a Tie Defender for more in the source material (multiple times in the same book) than an Ewing!

Smccaughan - "Whistler:Your Action Bar gains the System Slot When executing a 3 or 4 speed maneuver assign an evade token to your ship. All straight maneuvers are green. Cost should be similar to The Emperor or even The Punishing One title as this is a major upgrade."

This is a way too powerful droid...I can see it doing oneor two of these things at most (more like one). And that being said, I love Whistler, but then that is still waaay too good for game purposes, even with a high cost. You'd almost always see himon the table in every game that Rebels fielded a astro slot, even if they didnt use Corran.

Well he barely flew an Ewing, again the only possible time he did was when Rogue Squadron flew one in 1 comic book (Crimson Empire)

Possibly in Dark Empire as well - that's when we first start seeing the Republic deploying them.

Well he barely flew an Ewing, again the only possible time he did was when Rogue Squadron flew one in 1 comic book (Crimson Empire)

Possibly in Dark Empire as well - that's when we first start seeing the Republic deploying them.

Actually they arent in Dark Empire from what i can find, just looked through the comics. They are however in Empire's End (which is set right after both Dark Empires and before Crimson Empire), and they are flying Xwings when they attack the Eclipse II. One of them even says "Look at the Size of that thing" in reference to the massive SSD, and the leader (likely Tycho) tells him to "Cut the Chatter".

In Dark Empire we see Green Group attack the Devastators at the Battle of Calamari with Xwings and White Group and Knave Squadron in Ewings.

Hmm. I will take a shot at Whistler.

*Whistler

Astromech, 3 points

You may maintain 2 Target Locks. When you acquire a target lock, you may acquire a second Target Lock on the same ship or another ship.

Combines Redline and Weapons Engineer abilities to let Corran take advantage of his ability.

Should it be X-Wing only though? Might be a little broken on Torpedo or TLT Y-Wings.