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By FTS Gecko, in X-Wing Off-Topic

Rheagar was the Mad King's son. Tyrion would be Danny's uncle.

From wiki:

Prince Rhaegar Targaryen is an unseen character inGame of Thrones. He is deceased when the events of the series commence. He was the elder son and heir of KingAerys II Targaryen, holding the title of Prince of Dragonstone. Rhaegar was the older brother of Viserys andDaenerys, though Daenerys was born after he died. He was the last great champion of House Targaryen.

So...I was wrong about Danny being Rhaegar's daughter. They were brother-sister. So, Tyrion would be a half-brother. Jon Snow would be her nephew.

Jon maybe changed by his resurrection though. Might not be the same Jon.

I think that's a safe assumption. Both Lady Stoneheart and Berric have changed by being brought back. I'll point out its a bit funny a guy named "Jon Snow" was resurrected via a supposed god of fire.

I disagree. I don't think those characters were really changed when they came back. The only thing different was that they lacked a few memories. Well, Lady Stoneheart was crazier and wanting vengeance, but that's not really against Catlyn's character, either.

And I was thinking Danny was Rheagars daughter... been awhile since it's come to mind.

I'll admit that I'm warming to the idea of Tyrion being half Targaryen. I just don't think it's proven at the moment. Would that make her Danny's cousin? Danny's father was Rhaegar, who was brother to the Mad King. Mad King possibly Tyrion's father.....cousin....right?

After the Thrones? Oh, I'll have to check that out. I guess they took lessons from the Talking Dead?

Yeah, Thoros had lost his faith and regained it via the rite, but I hate that it had to be some special rite. I thought it much more interesting that they do it to all the dead and then the Red God just picks who he wants to bring back.

Rheagar was the Mad King's son. Tyrion would be Danny's uncle.

Dany is Rhaegar's brother. The Mad King was their father. They would be Jon's Aunt/Uncle if both theories are true.

Jon maybe changed by his resurrection though. Might not be the same Jon.

I think that's a safe assumption. Both Lady Stoneheart and Berric have changed by being brought back. I'll point out its a bit funny a guy named "Jon Snow" was resurrected via a supposed god of fire.

Fans will dislike any diminishing of Jon, but grrm might do it. I think he probably just lived in Ghost for awhile and avoided the downside of resurrection that way.

Jon maybe changed by his resurrection though. Might not be the same Jon.

I think that's a safe assumption. Both Lady Stoneheart and Berric have changed by being brought back. I'll point out its a bit funny a guy named "Jon Snow" was resurrected via a supposed god of fire.

Fans will dislike any diminishing of Jon, but grrm might do it. I think he probably just lived in Ghost for awhile and avoided the downside of resurrection that way.

I can't recall if they did much warging with Jon. I know the books touched on it more but I can't recall the show.

Jon maybe changed by his resurrection though. Might not be the same Jon.

I think that's a safe assumption. Both Lady Stoneheart and Berric have changed by being brought back. I'll point out its a bit funny a guy named "Jon Snow" was resurrected via a supposed god of fire.

Fans will dislike any diminishing of Jon, but grrm might do it. I think he probably just lived in Ghost for awhile and avoided the downside of resurrection that way.

I can't recall if they did much warging with Jon. I know the books touched on it more but I can't recall the show.

Jon maybe changed by his resurrection though. Might not be the same Jon.

I think that's a safe assumption. Both Lady Stoneheart and Berric have changed by being brought back. I'll point out its a bit funny a guy named "Jon Snow" was resurrected via a supposed god of fire.

Fans will dislike any diminishing of Jon, but grrm might do it. I think he probably just lived in Ghost for awhile and avoided the downside of resurrection that way.

I can't recall if they did much warging with Jon. I know the books touched on it more but I can't recall the show.
Not much at all. Just dreams like Arya. I'm not suggesting Jon did any of it on purpose or even knows it happened.

Hard to say then. I wouldn't put it past the show writers to just include it as convenience but it'll likely just be hand waved away afterwards. That's one thing I always preferred about the books, there's a lot more lore to the things that happen but given the mediums of the two it only makes sense.

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So it looks like we are getting the Tower of Joy scene this week. Likely we will be seeing it through Bran's eyes as he does his Greenseer thing. Will we finally get confirmation that R + L = J? Or will the truth be slightly different? Its kind of funny that a theory going on 20 years now might be revealed in the show before the books. Now, its pretty much a certainty that the theory is true, but I wonder if the show might take it a different way.

I can't wait to see Ollie's face when Jon confronts him. Little bastard.

It seems almost impossible that we won't confirm R+L=J this Sunday. The real question is when/how will Jon find out? Did Melisandre already know? She did suggest that he had King's blood a couple times.

Yeah I think she might know but probably not who his actual parents are. My guess is somehow Bran tells him the truth. Maybe once Bran becomes more powerful he'll be able to send him messages in dreams like the 3 eyed Raven sent him.

It will be interesting to see if Davos ever finds out Melisandre sacrificed Shireen. He's actually gotten closer to her, but if he finds out she did that, he might lose it.

I don't think Melisandre knew about the past. I think it's one of the biggest secrets of the book/show.

Yeah I think she might know but probably not who his actual parents are. My guess is somehow Bran tells him the truth. Maybe once Bran becomes more powerful he'll be able to send him messages in dreams like the 3 eyed Raven sent him.

It will be interesting to see if Davos ever finds out Melisandre sacrificed Shireen. He's actually gotten closer to her, but if he finds out she did that, he might lose it.

I wonder if Bran is going to leave that warren. They said he would in this past episode, but I don't know if they mean physically or mentally.

Yeah, that whole bit with Shireen was just terrible in the show. I'm glad they didn't do that in the book. The whole bit about what happens in the North is just wrong on so many parts.

I don't think Melisandre knew about the past. I think it's one of the biggest secrets of the book/show.

Yeah I think she might know but probably not who his actual parents are. My guess is somehow Bran tells him the truth. Maybe once Bran becomes more powerful he'll be able to send him messages in dreams like the 3 eyed Raven sent him.

It will be interesting to see if Davos ever finds out Melisandre sacrificed Shireen. He's actually gotten closer to her, but if he finds out she did that, he might lose it.

I wonder if Bran is going to leave that warren. They said he would in this past episode, but I don't know if they mean physically or mentally.

Yeah, that whole bit with Shireen was just terrible in the show. I'm glad they didn't do that in the book. The whole bit about what happens in the North is just wrong on so many parts.

Yeah, that would not have flown with book Stannis.

I don't think Melisandre knew about the past. I think it's one of the biggest secrets of the book/show.

Yeah I think she might know but probably not who his actual parents are. My guess is somehow Bran tells him the truth. Maybe once Bran becomes more powerful he'll be able to send him messages in dreams like the 3 eyed Raven sent him.

It will be interesting to see if Davos ever finds out Melisandre sacrificed Shireen. He's actually gotten closer to her, but if he finds out she did that, he might lose it.

I wonder if Bran is going to leave that warren. They said he would in this past episode, but I don't know if they mean physically or mentally.

Yeah, that whole bit with Shireen was just terrible in the show. I'm glad they didn't do that in the book. The whole bit about what happens in the North is just wrong on so many parts.

Yeah, that would not have flown with book Stannis.

Well the Tower of Joy scene was a bit of a let down. It went by pretty quickly and we didn't even get inside the tower. I'm pretty sure it was 7 on 3 instead of the 6 on 2 that we saw in the show. Can Bran communicate through time?

Jon's back but didn't do a whole lot so far. I wish he would have said "For the Watch." When he cut the rope. Pretty good scene though. That kid who plays Ollie is a pretty good actor. You could just feel the anger when Jon stepped in front of him. Looks like Jon is done with the Watch. It will be interesting to see what he does now.

Poor Rickon... He's f***ed. If Ramsey is smart he'd keep him around as a bargaining chip, but I don't see it ending well for him.

Lot of exposition in this episode, with not a whole lot happening. This was really one of those setup episodes and we will probably get more action in the next one.

Yea it was 7:3 in the story Ned told anyways. Bran can definitely have an impact on the last, but I wouldn't call it communicating. I thought Jon's mic-drop was spot on.

Surprised Rickon wasn't already dead in the ~5 seconds after Ramsay believed his identity.

Osha and Rickon are screwed. Such a shame Shaggydog bit the fish biscuit off screen as well, considering how wild he and Rickon wee in the early seasons I was expecting him to cause some real carnage at some point.

Osha and Rickon are screwed. Such a shame Shaggydog bit the fish biscuit off screen as well, considering how wild he and Rickon wee in the early seasons I was expecting him to cause some real carnage at some point.

Yea. There's no way Skagos-trained Davos-captured book Shaggydog/Rickon go out this way.

Well the Tower of Joy scene was a bit of a let down. It went by pretty quickly and we didn't even get inside the tower. I'm pretty sure it was 7 on 3 instead of the 6 on 2 that we saw in the show. Can Bran communicate through time?

I was trying to recall who was at the Tower of Joy seen in the books, but I couldn't recall. I'll probably have to look it up today just to settle my curiosity. I liked it, but it just leads you up to what is to come. They haven't really gone into the mystery of Jon's parents too much before this in the series, so they have to start somewhere. They can't really drop a bomb like that in the show without a little preview.

Osha and Rickon are screwed. Such a shame Shaggydog bit the fish biscuit off screen as well, considering how wild he and Rickon wee in the early seasons I was expecting him to cause some real carnage at some point.

Yea. There's no way Skagos-trained Davos-captured book Shaggydog/Rickon go out this way.

Yeah, I just kept thinking that, too. The book won't let Rickon and Shaggy Dog get captured like that. The story line in the North for the tv show is just annoying to me at this point.

Hmm. I wonder if the Rickon/Osha thing might be a doublecross?

The Greatjon was loyal to House Stark, and one of the few Starks who didn't get caught at the Red Wedding. Maybe the Umbers are planning on taking the Boltons out themselves for their treachery...

Hmm. I wonder if the Rickon/Osha thing might be a doublecross?

The Greatjon was loyal to House Stark, and one of the few Starks who didn't get caught at the Red Wedding. Maybe the Umbers are planning on taking the Boltons out themselves for their treachery...

Hmm, well we don't know the full terms of the Littlejon's alliance. He might demand that Rickon be kept alive and unharmed as a hostage (I doubt Osha's in the picture, though). And it could be another wolf/direwolf's head, to add legitimacy to the ruse.

It's a convoluted long shot, but pretty much the entire North wants Ramsay out of Winterfell.

I always thought we would see a movie sooner or later (they will make a metric f**kton of cash). I'll believe it when I see it though.

Hmm, well we don't know the full terms of the Littlejon's alliance. He might demand that Rickon be kept alive and unharmed as a hostage (I doubt Osha's in the picture, though). And it could be another wolf/direwolf's head, to add legitimacy to the ruse.

It's a convoluted long shot, but pretty much the entire North wants Ramsay out of Winterfell.

I could see a double cross going on. He may just think Ramsey wouldn't be stupid enough to just kill Rickon off. A Direwolf is a small price to pay to kick the southerners out of the north.

****. I wanted to see Shaggydog kill a few bastards before they took him down.

Anybody think the Hodor Theory is true?

Its got a lot of evidence backing it up.