HAPPY GAME OF THRONES DAY!

By FTS Gecko, in X-Wing Off-Topic

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Oooooh here's your conspiracy. How have I never heard of this?

http://winteriscoming.net/2016/05/09/game-of-thrones-theorycrafting-the-grand-northern-conspiracy/

Seriously: READ THIS.

The War of Northern Pent Up Aggression is upon us!

OK...I read through about half of that, but it's a lot of background without really saying what the intent is. What the heck is the main thrust of this theory? That the North is rallying against Bolton and the Lannisters to resist again? They want Jon as their King as he was pardoned?

Well, even beyond the Brotherhood without Banners and Blackfish connection, there is a conspiracy afoot in the North. The Manderlies will turncloak soon enough. I'm thinking at the battle with Stannis, which Stannis wins. I think a lot of the other events will probably happen about the same time and weaken everyone, but they don't even have to be orchestrated together to be just as effective.

Personally, I think Jon Snow will end up marrying Danny and rule in King's Landing. Rickon or Bran will take over Winterfell.

Anybody think the Hodor Theory is true?

Its got a lot of evidence backing it up.

What Hodor Theory?

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Personally, I think Jon Snow will end up marrying Danny and rule in King's Landing.

Same here. That's why I think Snow has Baratheon blood rather than Targaryen. Well, one of the reasons anyway.

R+L=J where R = Robert, not Rhaegar.

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Oooooh here's your conspiracy. How have I never heard of this?http://winteriscoming.net/2016/05/09/game-of-thrones-theorycrafting-the-grand-northern-conspiracy/

Seriously: READ THIS.

The War of Northern Pent Up Aggression is upon us!

OK...I read through about half of that, but it's a lot of background without really saying what the intent is. What the heck is the main thrust of this theory? That the North is rallying against Bolton and the Lannisters to resist again? They want Jon as their King as he was pardoned?

Well, even beyond the Brotherhood without Banners and Blackfish connection, there is a conspiracy afoot in the North. The Manderlies will turncloak soon enough. I'm thinking at the battle with Stannis, which Stannis wins. I think a lot of the other events will probably happen about the same time and weaken everyone, but they don't even have to be orchestrated together to be just as effective.

Personally, I think Jon Snow will end up marrying Danny and rule in King's Landing. Rickon or Bran will take over Winterfell.

Anybody think the Hodor Theory is true?

Its got a lot of evidence backing it up.

What Hodor Theory?

I especially like the implication that there are actually 3 armies in the North. And the one we haven't seen yet is significantly bigger than the other two.

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Personally, I think Jon Snow will end up marrying Danny and rule in King's Landing.

Same here. That's why I think Snow has Baratheon blood rather than Targaryen. Well, one of the reasons anyway.

R+L=J where R = Robert, not Rhaegar.

OK.....now I think that's crazy. I think there is enough evidence that Lyanna didn't care much for Robert and it was known he womanizes. Rhaegar was the bee's knees, though, and crowned her Queen of Love and Beauty. When did Robert and her ever have time together to conceive? Rhaegar and plenty of time with her.

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Personally, I think Jon Snow will end up marrying Danny and rule in King's Landing.

Same here. That's why I think Snow has Baratheon blood rather than Targaryen. Well, one of the reasons anyway.

R+L=J where R = Robert, not Rhaegar.

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Thanks. I don't like to google too much at work as a lot of sites get blocked and flag me. I have to search stuff like that on my phone and it's too annoying to read too much on the little screen.

So...it's all Wyllis? That seems a bit complicated. I think it's something simpler. He and the kids wanted him to play with wooden swords. He did so when Nan wasn't looking. He got clocked pretty hard in the head and has dain bamage.

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My personal theory, from a family member:

Bran is observing a past event. Wyllis is there. Something godawful happens. Bran tries to interfere. "Oh it's Hodor I'll just hop in his head. I do it all the time." Wyllis feels something powerful with intimate knowledge of him and his future plop into his brain. Wallis breaks like a twig.

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So... Some Starks finally meet up. Funny how it end up being Jon and Sansa. Pretty touching reunion. What was kind of lacking was Jon explaining to Sansa... "THAT HE ******* DIED." It was really glossed over. Looks like they are going to war with the Boltons. Things are getting pretty serious. Brienne + Tormund... ;)

Dany... wow. She better do something now. She has what 100,000 Dothrakis under her command? I see some slavers in the bay going to have a bad time.

I feel like the writers don't know what to do with Jaime's character anymore. He had such a great character arch, but now he's just Cersei's lap dog again. Kings Landing has gotten boring and stale. Hopefully we will finally see something happen there. The siege of the Sept is definitely going to end badly.

Pretty good episode though. So far this season hasn't been disappointing.

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To be fair, GRRM doesn't know what to do with Jamie either. In the books he hasn't done anything particularly worthy of note since releasing Tyrion.

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He burned that letter!

And left with Brienne!

And put a spy in the room with Edmure!

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That move by Dany was infinitely more badass than having Drogon save her.

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To be fair, GRRM doesn't know what to do with Jamie either. In the books he hasn't done anything particularly worthy of note since releasing Tyrion.

He burned that letter!

And left with Brienne!

And put a spy in the room with Edmure!

I agree with TasteTheRainbow. Jamie burnt the letter from Circe. He gave Brienne the sword and sent her after the Stark girls. Jaime went around getting decent peace deals with all the hold outs instead of prolonging the war. He then gets captured by Stoneheart.

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Burning a letter and giving someone else a sword.

Big whoop.

That's incredible use of a character over the course of several books. I'm not going to count anything that happens off page either. At least the series sent him off to Dorne to be briefly reunited with his daughter.

Anyway, back to the TV series; Littlefinger's plotting appears to have taken a competely aimless turn.

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Those are big steps when you start out by murdering children.

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Those are big steps when you start out by murdering children.

Attempted murder.

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Burning a letter and giving someone else a sword.

Big whoop.

Well....it's more than that. Willfully ignoring the plight of his sister, whom he's based almost every major life decision on is a big step. It is significant.

The whole character development of Jamie traveling with Brienne is great character development. He goes from a callous knight who is incredibly selfish to being someone who learns what honor really is from Brienne. Not only does he task Brienne with finding the two lost Stark girls, but he gives his family's newly acquired Valryian steel to her to accomplish it? The Lannisters never had Valyrian steel and perhaps it's guilt about where the sword came from that does it. Or maybe it's going against his father's wishes. No matter what, he gives a priceless item to Brienne to find the Starks. It's more than just handing someone a sword.

Overall, the character growth of Jamie strengthens as he moves beyond what his father and his sister want for him and more into what he wants for himself. While he might not be travelling to different places or accomplishing objectives the historians would write about, I think Jamie has done quite a bit lately.

Anyway, back to the TV series; Littlefinger's plotting appears to have taken a competely aimless turn.

You think so? Surely Littlefinger sees how the Bolton Boy has messed up royally. The Northmen don't like him. He's killed his father. He's flailing. It's the perfect opportunity for him to smash Bolton and set someone he wants up in charge of the North. Maybe even marry Sansa himself and set himself up as Warden of the North. At the very least he's seen as a savior by the Northmen and gains a strong ally with whomever ends up there. Littlefinger will build a strong coalition in the northern side of the Kingdom that is independent of Lannister power.

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Is the High Sparrow a GOOD guy or a BAD guy?

and what is Littlefinger's End-Game?

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Littlefinger end-game is the throne.

Sparrow is an awful guy.

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Littlefinger end-game is the throne.

Sparrow is an awful guy.

Yeah, I agree with both of these.

One thing I love about the series (or at least it's in the books) is that you see magic happen. Dragons happen. The Old Gods are there and active. The Red God is active. The Seven? They don't seem to really exist. It's a hollow religion with no power. The Seven haven't manifested any power at all. I LOVE that.

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Littlefinger knows about Jon(at least in the show).

If the whole game is really Littlefinger vs Varys then is Petyr trying to pit Jon against Dany?

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I wonder if Dany is getting used to having hordes of people kneeling befor her...

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I never imagined how much better Game of Thrones could be with the addition of lightsabres...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCfhwqk9VxE

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OK, let's play the world's #1 prediction game* - WHO IS GOING TO DIE TONIGHT?

It's Game of Thrones - clearly someone will bite the fish biscuit, but who? Current odds:

IN THE NORTH:

Jon Snow - 100/1

Sansa Stark - 99/1

Bran Stark - 99/1

Brienne of Tarth - 66/1

Wun Wun - 50/1 - he's the last giant, got to keep him around for rule of cool

Tormund Giantsbane - 50/1

Melisandre - 33/1 - if Davos figures out what happened to Shireen she's in trouble

Davos Seaworth - 33/1 - unless she gets to Davos first

Podrick Payne - 20/1

Hodor - 20/1 - hodor

Meera Reed - 5/1

Ramsey Bolton - 2/1 - he's stuffed now, it's only a matter of time

Rickon Stark - 2/1 - probably the only one more stuffed than Ramsey

ACROSS THE SEA:

Danaerys Targyren - 100/1

Arya Stark - 99/1

Tyrion Lannister - 66/1

Lord Varys - 33/1

Daario Naharis - 25/1

Missandei - 20/1

Grey Worm - 10/1

Jorah Mormont - 5/1 - the clock is ticking for Mr Greyscale

KING'S LANDING:

Cersei Lannister - 100/1

Jamie Lanister - 99/1

Gregor Clegane - 99/1 - more likely to kill than be killed right now

Tommen Baratheon - 50/1

Qyburn - 50/1

The High Sparrow - 33/1

Olenna Tyrrell - 33/1

Margarey Baratheon - 33/1

Loras Tyrell - 25/1

Kevan Lannister - 20/1

Grand Master Pycelle - 10/1 - the Small Council members are getting on Cersei's nerves.

Lancel Lannister - 10/1

Ser Pounce - N/A - let's not pour more misery on poor Tommen

ELSEWHERE:

Euron Greyjoy - 100/1

Petyr Baelish - 66/1

Yara Greyjoy - 50/1

Theon Greyjoy - 33/1

Samwell Tarly - 33/1 - is visiting the family a good idea?

Gilly - 20/1

Robin Arryn - 20/1 - around for as long as Baelish needs him, no more

MIA:

Bronn - 33/1

Thoros of Myr - 33/1

Walder Frey - 33/1

Brynden Tully - 20/1

Edmure Tully - 10/1

Gendry - 5/1 - still rowing?

Beric Dondarrion - 5/1

Sandor Clegane - 3/1

Benjen Stark - 3/1

I'd add the Sand Snakes but no one could care less about Dorne right now.

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