How about Chardan Refit on T-65? -2 or 3 points and T65 are more useful. And come on, how often do you use torpedo on X-Wing?

and on Firespray, Kihraxz, Starviper, E-wing.... etc etc

not the way, surely not the way!

One title for aces and generics is probably a bad plan.

Title:Rogue Squadron, xwing only, PS3+, 1 point.

Add an ept if you do not have one already

Add barrel roll to your action bar.

Ptl Poe becomes an intercepter at ps8. Red and blue aces get a d amn ept. So do red squadron t65s and hobbie. (Sorry Tarn) Biggs doesnt gain much from barrel roll, and most epts are just more points on biggs.

SoT porkens and VI Wes get slightly more maneuverable, and EU wedge/luke can go full intercepter

Title: Multiroll assault craft, xwing only -1 points

Reduce the cost of torpedo upgrades by 3

Either you run 5 plasmas with chips, or you take an astro, IA, and protons. Biggs is a point cheaprt.

One title for aces and generics is probably a bad plan.

Title:Rogue Squadron, xwing only, PS3+, 1 point.

Add an ept if you do not have one already

Add barrel roll to your action bar.

Ptl Poe becomes an intercepter at ps8. Red and blue aces get a d amn ept. So do red squadron t65s and hobbie. (Sorry Tarn) Biggs doesnt gain much from barrel roll, and most epts are just more points on biggs.

SoT porkens and VI Wes get slightly more maneuverable, and EU wedge/luke can go full intercepter

Title: Multiroll assault craft, xwing only -1 points

Reduce the cost of torpedo upgrades by 3

Either you run 5 plasmas with chips, or you take an astro, IA, and protons. Biggs is a point cheaprt.

That is a good point, the X-Wing is supposed to be about versatility, and aces have different needs than generics do, so a title which is basically two different tiles sounds like a splendid idea.

I don't see why the x-wing would need a barrel roll. We already have a barrel-rolling-3-attack-dice fighter, it's called a B-wing.
Maybe it would be more interesting to have something creative and new.
Not any ship should have repositionning abilities, there are already too much in the game, and it is fine to be relying on your dial, it should imo, be and stay the basics of the game.

If you want to BR anyways, just use Expert Handling, it came with the x-wing expansion pack (and there you go with the real problem for rebel faction so on : lack of EPTs on middle VP aces and generics).

I still don't see why "give it boost/barrel roll" is everyone's idea of a perfect fix. I personally think that blurs the line a little too much, and not every ship should have one or both of those actions. The hallmark of the X-Wing as I understand it, has been versatility. I've gone on and on in different threads about rogue squadron ideas, about linked laser ideas, etc. What about this:

In the eu we have 2 seat X-wings, missile armed X-wings, stealth X-Wings, recon X-Wings (although that was usually recon Y's), etc...

What about a title similar to the Scyk, but tuned a little better.

"Specialized Role" 0 points: you may equip either a system, crew, or missile upgrade in the torpedo slot.

FFG won't just give them a barrel roll. Their fixes are always more intricate than that. I have proposed either a Rogue Squadron title, or an astromech that grants the strafe action. The strafe action would be basically doing a Lt. Lorrir BR, but require it to be facing forwards.

I've also thought about saying that the strafe occurs prior to dial reveal, therefore it isn't just a straight "copy" of Lt. Lorrir's ability. The question becomes at that point if it's too powerful (like the phantom was). However it's not that much different than an AdvS BR, and those have been out since W3 without anyone complaining about it. Using a 1 template instead of the 2, and lacking the hard 1 turn should prevent it from doing anything like the Phantom was pre-nerf.

X Wings should not have a barrel roll, it is unthematic and lazy. If you want to roll take a B Wing or an attack shuttle.

So the T-65 is sitting at an uncomfortable position. If the points are reduced by -1 to -2 you can run 5 of them in a squad and its 25 points of damage to get through all of them with a damage output of 20 dice at range 1 in a single turn which is nuts for raw damage. I do feel like the t-65 needs something though, if you give it a boost then its a t-70, dodge makes no sense, Barrol roll is a good option, giving it a white K-turn might also help or one of them fancy turn around moves after a movement.

In the End, I think 3 excellent title ideas are as following,

1st for 1 point more, if we gave the T-65 an extra move (barrel roll,boost) at the end of Activations for ships before shooting.

2nd Allow Torps and/or Droids to be at a -4/-3 reduction like sensors on Tie Advances.

FFG made the x-wing specifically so you couldn't field five at once. 5 x-wings would be really powerful...

Sorry to rain on your parade...

But if we are talking about an x-wing fix, we need a barrel roll...

By that logic 5 khirwhatsit lists would be tearing it up...oh wait. It probably even would have been ok in Wave 1, but these days especially a 5 Rookie X-wing list wouldn't be anything particularly scary for a lot of lists.

Barrel Roll would possibly make Rookies better blockers, and would be nice native on the Aces I suppose, but doesn't really solve the X-wing's problems.

A-wings don't use missiles?

What are prockets then?

missiles for the TIE Advanced.

One title for aces and generics is probably a bad plan.

Title:Rogue Squadron, xwing only, PS3+, 1 point.

Add an ept if you do not have one already

Add barrel roll to your action bar.

Ptl Poe becomes an intercepter at ps8. Red and blue aces get a d amn ept. So do red squadron t65s and hobbie. (Sorry Tarn)

Wait so you want to make the T-70 more powerful too!?! That is crazy! No Rogue Squadron shouldnt be a title, it should be what it is right now just the named pilots, and then a generic PS6 with a Elite pilot token.

And then a T-65 Xwing (RebelOnly) Title to prevent the T-70 from getting another bonus over the T-65.

I just ran through a practice round with 5 rookie pilots vs crack shot swarm, and the x-wings are winning hands down.+

One title for aces and generics is probably a bad plan.

Title:Rogue Squadron, xwing only, PS3+, 1 point.

Add an ept if you do not have one already

Add barrel roll to your action bar.

Ptl Poe becomes an intercepter at ps8. Red and blue aces get a d amn ept. So do red squadron t65s and hobbie. (Sorry Tarn)

Wait so you want to make the T-70 more powerful too!?! That is crazy! No Rogue Squadron shouldnt be a title, it should be what it is right now just the named pilots, and then a generic PS6 with a Elite pilot token.

And then a T-65 Xwing (RebelOnly) Title to prevent the T-70 from getting another bonus over the T-65.

I would like the Death Star trench run titles. unique titles for (T-65) X-wing only and Y-wings. Say like Red 2 and Red 5 or Gold 5 and Gold Leader. I got a good idea for a Y-wing title Gold Leader. Y-wing only Rebel only. Your ship gains an EPT slot, you cannot use this upgrade if your pilot skill is 4 or less. Red 5, When attacking with a <torpedo> upgrade you may reroll any or all your attack dice.

One title for aces and generics is probably a bad plan.

Title:Rogue Squadron, xwing only, PS3+, 1 point.

Add an ept if you do not have one already

Add barrel roll to your action bar.

Ptl Poe becomes an intercepter at ps8. Red and blue aces get a d amn ept. So do red squadron t65s and hobbie. (Sorry Tarn)

Wait so you want to make the T-70 more powerful too!?! That is crazy! No Rogue Squadron shouldnt be a title, it should be what it is right now just the named pilots, and then a generic PS6 with a Elite pilot token.

And then a T-65 Xwing (RebelOnly) Title to prevent the T-70 from getting another bonus over the T-65.

I would like the Death Star trench run titles. unique titles for (T-65) X-wing only and Y-wings. Say like Red 2 and Red 5 or Gold 5 and Gold Leader. I got a good idea for a Y-wing title Gold Leader. Y-wing only Rebel only. Your ship gains an EPT slot, you cannot use this upgrade if your pilot skill is 4 or less. Red 5, When attacking with a <torpedo> upgrade you may reroll any or all your attack dice.

Barrel roll on the x-wing is such a lazy fix and it only detracts from the Tie fighter. The x-wing needs some help, but I hope it will be something more creative than just giving it Barrel roll or boost.

Just give them a more interesting dial. If you want boost you've got the t70 and a wing, barrel roll the b wing and attack shuttle, ordnance options you've got the b wing, z 95, and y wing.

A title card like "t65 C fusal thrusters" and a hard 1 turn (red), and either a t roll, s roll, or a 3 or 5 k turn option. What it does is make them more fun and less predictable to fly, and synergizes well with upgrades like r2 and targeting astromech. Without making them strictly better jousters or replacing the roles of other ships.

I don't like the idea of making them super torpedo carriers, because it really steps on the toes of ships like the b and y wing.

The other thing to do would be to give them another title card that adds an ept slot unless your pilot skill is 2 or lower, or you already have one. It makes sense, as the x wing was the premier space superiority fighter of the alliance, was produced in small numbers and only given out for important squadrons and missions. Being able to equip crack shot or adaptability on red squadron pilots and pilots like tarn and hobbie would make them great without stepping on the toes of similarly priced generics like b wings.

That way you have to choose between a valuable ept slot or a better dial.

One title for aces and generics is probably a bad plan.

Title:Rogue Squadron, xwing only, PS3+, 1 point.

Add an ept if you do not have one already

Add barrel roll to your action bar.

Ptl Poe becomes an intercepter at ps8. Red and blue aces get a d amn ept. So do red squadron t65s and hobbie. (Sorry Tarn)

Wait so you want to make the T-70 more powerful too!?! That is crazy! No Rogue Squadron shouldnt be a title, it should be what it is right now just the named pilots, and then a generic PS6 with a Elite pilot token.

And then a T-65 Xwing (RebelOnly) Title to prevent the T-70 from getting another bonus over the T-65.

I would like the Death Star trench run titles. unique titles for (T-65) X-wing only and Y-wings. Say like Red 2 and Red 5 or Gold 5 and Gold Leader. I got a good idea for a Y-wing title Gold Leader. Y-wing only Rebel only. Your ship gains an EPT slot, you cannot use this upgrade if your pilot skill is 4 or less. Red 5, When attacking with a <torpedo> upgrade you may reroll any or all your attack dice.

whats wrong with fixing Blue Ace at the same time we fix hobbie kilvan?

T-70s don't need a fix.

Barrel roll on the x-wing is such a lazy fix and it only detracts from the Tie fighter. Te x-wing needs some help, but I hope it will be something more creative than just giving it Barrel roll or boost.

"I would like the Death Star trench run titles. unique titles for (T-65) X-wing only and Y-wings. Say like Red 2 and Red 5 or Gold 5 and Gold Leader. I got a good idea for a Y-wing title Gold Leader. Y-wing only Rebel only. Your ship gains an EPT slot, you cannot use this upgrade if your pilot skill is 4 or less. Red 5, When attacking with a <torpedo> upgrade you may reroll any or all your attack dice." Marinealver.

I think you are missing how titles are typically titled - they usually arent named after a pilot or squadron, but usually the type of ship. Also Ywings dont need a 2nd title. They have the BTLA4 already.

If anything I agree wih you that I'd like to see the Ywings for Rebels get something but what they need is some different named pilots...with an EPT slot....Colonel horton Salm should have had one, but nope. And yet scum pilot Kavil, who was in all of one comic that i can think of and wasnt even a good pilot, got one...I'm dumbfounded by that, except for the idea of power creep.

Barrel roll on the x-wing is such a lazy fix and it only detracts from the Tie fighter. Te x-wing needs some help, but I hope it will be something more creative than just giving it Barrel roll or boost.

the ept is actually a more important part, to fix hobbie and red and blue aces.

And Red and blue Ace are able to do good stuff without an EPT....I've made Red Ace very ery lethal, with Comm Relay and R2-d2....she can hang with Poe and do great!!!

Blue Ace works well wih R7-T1.

Or you could even give the droid that gives an ept to them...if you are in desperate need of one.

One title for aces and generics is probably a bad plan.

Title:Rogue Squadron, xwing only, PS3+, 1 point.

Add an ept if you do not have one already

Add barrel roll to your action bar.

Ptl Poe becomes an intercepter at ps8. Red and blue aces get a d amn ept. So do red squadron t65s and hobbie. (Sorry Tarn)

Wait so you want to make the T-70 more powerful too!?! That is crazy! No Rogue Squadron shouldnt be a title, it should be what it is right now just the named pilots, and then a generic PS6 with a Elite pilot token.

And then a T-65 Xwing (RebelOnly) Title to prevent the T-70 from getting another bonus over the T-65.

I would like the Death Star trench run titles. unique titles for (T-65) X-wing only and Y-wings. Say like Red 2 and Red 5 or Gold 5 and Gold Leader. I got a good idea for a Y-wing title Gold Leader. Y-wing only Rebel only. Your ship gains an EPT slot, you cannot use this upgrade if your pilot skill is 4 or less. Red 5, When attacking with a <torpedo> upgrade you may reroll any or all your attack dice.

whats wrong with fixing Blue Ace at the same time we fix hobbie kilvan?

T-70s don't need a fix.

Poe, like corran, is an outlier. Red and Blue ace need EPTs. So does Hobbie. One card fixes all.

One title for aces and generics is probably a bad plan.

Title:Rogue Squadron, xwing only, PS3+, 1 point.

Add an ept if you do not have one already

Add barrel roll to your action bar.

Ptl Poe becomes an intercepter at ps8. Red and blue aces get a d amn ept. So do red squadron t65s and hobbie. (Sorry Tarn)

Wait so you want to make the T-70 more powerful too!?! That is crazy! No Rogue Squadron shouldnt be a title, it should be what it is right now just the named pilots, and then a generic PS6 with a Elite pilot token.

And then a T-65 Xwing (RebelOnly) Title to prevent the T-70 from getting another bonus over the T-65.

I would like the Death Star trench run titles. unique titles for (T-65) X-wing only and Y-wings. Say like Red 2 and Red 5 or Gold 5 and Gold Leader. I got a good idea for a Y-wing title Gold Leader. Y-wing only Rebel only. Your ship gains an EPT slot, you cannot use this upgrade if your pilot skill is 4 or less. Red 5, When attacking with a <torpedo> upgrade you may reroll any or all your attack dice.

whats wrong with fixing Blue Ace at the same time we fix hobbie kilvan?

T-70s don't need a fix.

andvthe Ewing does?...yea.

Poe, like corran, is an outlier. Red and Blue ace need EPTs. So does Hobbie. One card fixes all.

Well then good news! There already exists an astromech that grants an EPT. You can even use IA on him and keep the EPT. Now stop trying to give the X-Wing the damned barrel roll action.

One title for aces and generics is probably a bad plan.

Title:Rogue Squadron, xwing only, PS3+, 1 point.

Add an ept if you do not have one already

Add barrel roll to your action bar.

Ptl Poe becomes an intercepter at ps8. Red and blue aces get a d amn ept. So do red squadron t65s and hobbie. (Sorry Tarn)

Wait so you want to make the T-70 more powerful too!?! That is crazy! No Rogue Squadron shouldnt be a title, it should be what it is right now just the named pilots, and then a generic PS6 with a Elite pilot token.

And then a T-65 Xwing (RebelOnly) Title to prevent the T-70 from getting another bonus over the T-65.

I would like the Death Star trench run titles. unique titles for (T-65) X-wing only and Y-wings. Say like Red 2 and Red 5 or Gold 5 and Gold Leader. I got a good idea for a Y-wing title Gold Leader. Y-wing only Rebel only. Your ship gains an EPT slot, you cannot use this upgrade if your pilot skill is 4 or less. Red 5, When attacking with a <torpedo> upgrade you may reroll any or all your attack dice.

whats wrong with fixing Blue Ace at the same time we fix hobbie kilvan?

T-70s don't need a fix.

andvthe Ewing does?...yea.

Poe, like corran, is an outlier. Red and Blue ace need EPTs. So does Hobbie. One card fixes all.

Well then good news! There already exists an astromech that grants an EPT. You can even use IA on him and keep the EPT. Now stop trying to give the X-Wing the damned barrel roll action.

FFG won't just give them a barrel roll. Their fixes are always more intricate than that. I have proposed either a Rogue Squadron title, or an astromech that grants the strafe action. The strafe action would be basically doing a Lt. Lorrir BR, but require it to be facing forwards.

I've also thought about saying that the strafe occurs prior to dial reveal, therefore it isn't just a straight "copy" of Lt. Lorrir's ability. The question becomes at that point if it's too powerful (like the phantom was). However it's not that much different than an AdvS BR, and those have been out since W3 without anyone complaining about it. Using a 1 template instead of the 2, and lacking the hard 1 turn should prevent it from doing anything like the Phantom was pre-nerf.

intricate a-wings and interceptors are intricate.... sooooooo intricate.....

Instead of removing torpedoes to reduce cost. A title that reduce cost - similar to TIE advance title.