Super Han?

I like Kanan on Super Dash, so I dusted off the Falcon and put Kanan on Chewie with C3PO and ran him at a spring kit tourney last week and he pulled his weight, but I ran him with a VCX build that wasnt so great. Went 1-2 but Kanan opened up the Falcons dial after Chewies PTL. So, I started thinking about Super Han and support for him.

Im gonna try:

Han + PTL + Kanan + Katarn + Title + EU = 60pts

Han never has to worry about stress, gets a free focus every round, even if blocked, and can boost and evade/TL also. TL if not being fired on, works like old Fat Han with Predator

So, now need a 40pt support.

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Which brings me to 40pt support options:

Fringer + HLC + IA + APL = 40pts

Saw on TeamCovenant, Theorist runs something similar with Super Dash. Gives you a large base blocker with a barrell roll with a mean cannon, blocking one ship he can still attack with his 2/3 PWT. IA and APL will be great for ace hunting.

Blount + Assault + Crackshot/Deadeye + Chips = 23pts

Tala + Concussion + Chips = 17pts

Gives you a nice alpha strike, and Blount Assault can hit aces, remove their stealth devices, and weaken swarms, better for Han to pick off.

Lothal + FCS + ABT + Hera + Chops = 40pts

Can block with hera crew, FCS and ABT for aces, and chops for when you are stressed but have a nice range 1 attack and need a focus.

Then there are also a pair of Protos with Prockets, or other Awing builds.

There was another thread about Jan Ors with Han. Not sure if Jan can pull her weight at 40pts though in a two ship list:

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Thinking about Jan:

Jan + Adaptability + Dorsel = 28pts

Bandit

Gives an extra ship, and Jan gets three die at range 1. Im thinking of her like a Biggs here. Enemy will want to go for her first, in the meantime Han gets 4/5 attack die. Z acts as your blocker.

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Or just load Jan out:

Jan + VI + TLT/Ion (or Dorsel + Moldy Crow) + Chewie + EU = 40pts

Jan now has 7hp, making her last a tad longer. Just not convinced she can earn her 40pts.

Thoughts? suggestions? Im gonna run a couple tests tomorrow, see how it goes, then maybe tinker a bit for next weeks tourney.

This might sound simple

B-wing (blue 22)
Attack shuttle (Zeb Orellios, 18)

Hit points and red dice galore
Use the evade action on Zeb, he is something in between an x-wing and Z-95 and just for 18 points.

Why no Han + PtL + Kanan + Ezra + Title + EU? Also 60 points and you get better use of the eyes than with Kyle.

I would support that with either maxed out Poe or Lothal Rebel with FCS,Hera and either Dash/Intel/Merc Copilot .

I've seen someone play the exact loadout but with Chewie instead of Han... I feel like the ability to soak up the crits and use him as a blocker against aces is more worth than Han's occasional repositioning against aces (in this meta at least). and I quite like the idea of using two protoypes with prockets. they are nasty little blockers with the threat of the prockets as a bonus. if you use chewie you can put autothrusters on them too

what about that chewie build supported by Corran Horn with VI, R2-D2 and FCS?

what about that chewie build supported by Corran Horn with VI, R2-D2 and FCS?

Corran dies to too many things nowadays.

Why no Han + PtL + Kanan + Ezra + Title + EU? Also 60 points and you get better use of the eyes than with Kyle.

I would support that with either maxed out Poe or Lothal Rebel with FCS,Hera and either Dash/Intel/Merc Copilot .

Kyle gives you a focus even if blocked. Focus can be used for defense as well. And Falcon needs to maximize offense, and rolling like hit eye eye with ezra sucks. Ezra good on ships that are permanently stressed otherwise I think he is overcosted for his ability.

I've seen someone play the exact loadout but with Chewie instead of Han... I feel like the ability to soak up the crits and use him as a blocker against aces is more worth than Han's occasional repositioning against aces (in this meta at least). and I quite like the idea of using two protoypes with prockets. they are nasty little blockers with the threat of the prockets as a bonus. if you use chewie you can put autothrusters on them too

Yea, I was initially thinking chewie for the crit neglect, but when I fly chewie I find myself firing from range 2-3. With Han, I can get into range 1 more, and boost out of arcs. However, 4pts could go a long way in support ships, like putting EU on the Fringer or VCX, . Hmmmm...

What about Poe: R2-D2, AT, VI, WG

Or Miranda Doni: TLT, Tactictian maybe to do stress or C-3PO, Miranda is a breast

Why no Han + PtL + Kanan + Ezra + Title + EU? Also 60 points and you get better use of the eyes than with Kyle.

I would support that with either maxed out Poe or Lothal Rebel with FCS,Hera and either Dash/Intel/Merc Copilot .

Kyle gives you a focus even if blocked. Focus can be used for defense as well. And Falcon needs to maximize offense, and rolling like hit eye eye with ezra sucks. Ezra good on ships that are permanently stressed otherwise I think he is overcosted for his ability.

I've seen someone play the exact loadout but with Chewie instead of Han... I feel like the ability to soak up the crits and use him as a blocker against aces is more worth than Han's occasional repositioning against aces (in this meta at least). and I quite like the idea of using two protoypes with prockets. they are nasty little blockers with the threat of the prockets as a bonus. if you use chewie you can put autothrusters on them too

Yea, I was initially thinking chewie for the crit neglect, but when I fly chewie I find myself firing from range 2-3. With Han, I can get into range 1 more, and boost out of arcs. However, 4pts could go a long way in support ships, like putting EU on the Fringer or VCX, . Hmmmm...

If you get blocked with KANAN on board and falcons dial you did something wrong and no crew gonna help you. And PtL Falcon gonna be permastressed so Ezra will find himself here at home. And i still will stand my point he is better on offence (with Hans ability and TL)

I have seen it used with Han. With Hortan as support. Han also has cluster missiles. Pretty scary with Hans ability. It works amazingly.

Why no Han + PtL + Kanan + Ezra + Title + EU? Also 60 points and you get better use of the eyes than with Kyle.

I would support that with either maxed out Poe or Lothal Rebel with FCS,Hera and either Dash/Intel/Merc Copilot .

Kyle gives you a focus even if blocked. Focus can be used for defense as well. And Falcon needs to maximize offense, and rolling like hit eye eye with ezra sucks. Ezra good on ships that are permanently stressed otherwise I think he is overcosted for his ability.

I've seen someone play the exact loadout but with Chewie instead of Han... I feel like the ability to soak up the crits and use him as a blocker against aces is more worth than Han's occasional repositioning against aces (in this meta at least). and I quite like the idea of using two protoypes with prockets. they are nasty little blockers with the threat of the prockets as a bonus. if you use chewie you can put autothrusters on them too

Yea, I was initially thinking chewie for the crit neglect, but when I fly chewie I find myself firing from range 2-3. With Han, I can get into range 1 more, and boost out of arcs. However, 4pts could go a long way in support ships, like putting EU on the Fringer or VCX, . Hmmmm...

If you get blocked with KANAN on board and falcons dial you did something wrong and no crew gonna help you. And PtL Falcon gonna be permastressed so Ezra will find himself here at home. And i still will stand my point he is better on offence (with Hans ability and TL)

I see your point. I dunno, I like the focus from katarn because if I dont use it for offense, I get an extra 25% chance to get another evade when I roll my green die. If perhaps, I load up Cluster Missiles on Falcon like Rasputin mentioned, then Ezra would come in handy there. Next time I fly the Falcon, I will throw Ezra on there. See if it pays off for me. Maybe load up some Clusters for fun too

I played a couple games today. Han kicked major arse. First game I had the Fringer as support. Wasn't too impressed with the fringer. I may have to give it another go, but it didnt do much damage wise as I was br-ing to try and block, or range 2-3 for HLC. It died quickly, and Han was awesome, but slowly got whittled down.

Second game I tried the loaded up Jan build. She acts like a Biggs and the three rounds she lived and gave Han an extra die were awesome. But I felt the Falcon was tethered to her. I couldnt go too fast with the Falcon, and she couldnt keep up. But Han ripped apart a Kath and Bossk list.

Had fun testing the support ships out.

I've been intrigued by this idea, so here's what i came up with after some messing around:

Chewbacca (42)

+ Ezra Bridger (3)

+ Kanan Jarrus (3)

+ Push the Limit (3)

+ Millennium Falcon (1)

"Chopper" (37)

+ Autoblaster Turret (2)

+ Fire-Control System (2)

+ Han Solo (2)

+ Hera Syndulla (1)

Now there are 4 points left to work with in this build. You could upgrade the Autoblaster to TLT, depending on how worried you are about aces. You could add Flechette Torpedoes and Extra Munitions to "Chopper" to give him a couple shots out the back. Or you could add Anti-Pursuit Lasers to both and go with a blocking game.

What about Poe: R2-D2, AT, VI, WG
Or Miranda Doni: TLT, Tactictian maybe to do stress or C-3PO, Miranda is a breast

I'm sure that was a typo.

Whatever you add as a wingman i'd strongly consider atleast a small init bid to maximize Han's PS9.

I wonder if this has game against triple uboats...

I tried the following list with great success this weekend:

Han Solo (60pts)

• Kanan Jarrus
• Kyle Katarn
• Engine Upgrade
• Millenium Falcon
• Push the limit

2x Prototype pilot (20pts per ship)

• Proton rockets
• Guidance chips

However, I'm thinking of replacing the Protoype pilots with Green Squadrons pilots instead:

2x Green Squadron Pilot

• Chardaan Refit
• Push the limit
• Adaptability

What do you think about that?

Why not try two Tala Squardon Z-95s with Homing Missiles and put a Tracer on Han? You could get two 4 dice alpha strikes with TL + Focus on aces that stop the use of evade tokens. Then after that hopefully broke one down or broken down any stealth devices, you can pick and shoot with Han and bump with the Talas.

If it's against U-boats, don't use the Tracers and just TL naturally and focus fire on one with your Homing missiles and Han.

That's a nice idea. But I will end up with three or four points to spare and no real place to spend them.

I was just thinking about using the Falcon like this except I wanted to go with the Chewie + Leebo, your standard crit denial combo.

Chewbacca:

PtL, Kyle, Kanan, Falcon

Leebo

Determination, HLC, Outrider

My thoughts on Kyle over Ezra is to allow Focus/Focus/Evade or Focus/Target Lock/Evade

I was thinking about pairing down the HLC to a Mangler to allow EU on either ship, but honestly I prefer the damage output of those 4 dice.