grabbed myself the darth vader series from marvel issues 1-9 and chewed through them quickly.
0-0-0 and BT.....greatest driods ever..i mean EVER.
so, any0ne familiar with these fancy new series of comics ?
theres a few titles, but i don`t know how or if they intertwine story wise. and...no idea if they are any good. but
0-0-0...so good.
The only thing good i can say about these comics is that they stopped making Darth Vader incompetent, they screwed him over in the Rebels tv series.
Ok i well write down why i hate the vader comics but first i will just say i hate ever sw comic currently made by marvel. The stories and plots are lame, i dont feel any weight of importance in their stories, and they have added character traits that dont mesh with the characters they are using.
Now onto Vader, his comics suffer from the problems above, he uses his own troops as a shield, despite how important said troops are to him. His one real epic story, ends up not being a real story in the since that its more an art book of Darth Vader feats. I felt like the person who made that book was like, hey lets make Darth Vader bad *** he can kill lots of ***
. (Editor) those action scene ideas sound great! So what should the story be about? (Writer) he kills some ***...? (Editor) well i have heard worse...
Anyway i hate Vaders two new murder droids, i hate ig-90, i hate chopper, i hate mr. Bones. All these new droids are knock offs or borrow attributes from HK-47. They all dont feel orignal, all but ig-90 follow a characteristic in that they are all droids that appear to be harmless astromech or protocol droids that are really assassin droids or have the tendency of a assassin droid. Ig-90 just flat out talks exactly like hk-47.
They have no originality and they cheepen hk-47 by borrowing his attributes so much.
An interesting perspective indeed. I have no idea what a hk-47 is but I`ll take your word for it. That might be why i like the 0-0-0 and bt thing. I don`t have anything to compare it to. that was my first experience with a `evil` pair of threepio R2 kockoffs.
AND...
I guess since force awakens, I seem to be trained to just grudgingly accept that everything going forward will be a rip off of the original stuff.....so I got onboard with the 0-0-0 thing.
I wouldnt say the series is super high quality .theres flaws for sure ( Im looking at YOU tiny droid birthing engine that can make an army like filling ice cube trays)
that thing was just hella weak writing.
still....I having fun going along for the ride.
I've read every single series and issue and love these comics although Leia and Lando were kinda dull.
I've read every single series and issue and love these comics although Leia and Lando were kinda dull.
HK-47 is the best droid ever. There is no arguing. HK is the best period.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/HK-47
Definition: 'Love' is making a shot to the knees of a target 120 kilometers away using an Aratech sniper rifle with a tri-light scope... Love is knowing your target, putting them in your targeting reticule, and together, achieving a singular purpose against statistically long odds."
―HK-47
I love the Darth Vader series. I need to pick up my pulls, to finish up the Shon Turan War. That has been very fascinating. And I love Aphra. Can't wait to pick up Poe's series.
And the scene where Vader figures out who Luke is one of my favorites, and really sets up Vader's character nicely.
Just ignore BKL. He doesn't exactly accept anything post Disney.
Edited by SithborgAn interesting perspective indeed. I have no idea what a hk-47 is but I`ll take your word for it. That might be why i like the 0-0-0 and bt thing. I don`t have anything to compare it to. that was my first experience with a `evil` pair of threepio R2 kockoffs.
AND...
I guess since force awakens, I seem to be trained to just grudgingly accept that everything going forward will be a rip off of the original stuff.....so I got onboard with the 0-0-0 thing.
I wouldnt say the series is super high quality .theres flaws for sure ( Im looking at YOU tiny droid birthing engine that can make an army like filling ice cube trays)
that thing was just hella weak writing.
still....I having fun going along for the ride.
Well to each their own. HK47 is the first droid character to be created to resemble a protocol droid but is really an assassin droid, he has a strange personality, always the type of comment he will say before saying it. Calls organic life "meat bags".
Yeah i was also shocked to see the dramatic change in artistic quality. Some look near photorealistic, others look like throwbacks to 1970s marvel sw comics.
I dont think the new stuff ripsoff older material since legends is secondary canon and it should, and in deed is, refrenced in new material. I liked ep 7, the only problems i had with it was fin ray and writing style.
I would ignore VdM and sithy. They dont like people who dont wear rose tinted glass while watching sw, they dont like people who follow canon for any series, and dont try and find a way to decanonize stuff they dont like, they dont like nonplasma fanatics, they dont like reference materi, and most importantly of all, they love and need to really insult / personally who ever they dont like.
You will see what i mean if you disagree with one of them.
As someone who has disagreed with Sithborg quite a bit, I've never been insulted by him in a disagreement. Vanor has never been anything but civil. Stop slandering peoples names. That said, atleast we can agree HK is the best droid.
(Don't click "view it anyway". Don't click "view it anyway")
I like them. I'm mostly in it for Aphra and evil-not-c3po, but Vader is done nicely to. My fave bit so far is where he finds out Luke is his son. (Vader just stands there quietly lost in tought...and then the safety glass on the SD's viewing port strats cracking!)
As someone who has disagreed with Sithborg quite a bit, I've never been insulted by him in a disagreement. Vanor has never been anything but civil. Stop slandering peoples names. That said, atleast we can agree HK is the best droid.
Slander?!
You have cyber slandered me by making a false claim that people i mentioned are civil. They pick the sides of caustic people, they enjoy seeing people make the most insulting comments they can towards their enemies and people they disagree with.
You have cyber slandered me by insulting me with your false claims 5 months ago, did you think i would forget? I never forget personal attacks.
You have cyber slandered me by boldly coming into this *** topic and claiming Sithy here is civil when hes clearly attacking me, trying to get new people to ignore my comments with *** statements that hold no weight. "Oh she doesnt like the new star wars material, they are therefore wrong lolz. Ignore them."
It is a broken VdR lackey record since thats all i ever see in 90% of topics i see them in.
Frankly you and sithy should be held responsible for anyone you trick into wasting their money on these comics, trying to suppress justifiable critical negative points and the people giving them.
I never *** said HK47 is "best droid".
Btw good job derailing this *** topic, this topic was about what people think about starwars marvel comics, and you and your good buddy here had to go and make personal attacks. GOOD *** JOB 
I like them. I'm mostly in it for Aphra and evil-not-c3po, but Vader is done nicely to. My fave bit so far is where he finds out Luke is his son. (Vader just stands there quietly lost in tought...and then the safety glass on the SD's viewing port strats cracking!)
Your the first one, excluding op, to go into detail on something they like about the comics. I am glad you are finding something enjoyable about the new comics. Frankly i think marvel is losing their past writing skills because its not just the sw comics i think are not good. I think the good marvel writers are working on the movies or something.
BION i was looking forward to the pregers spider-woman comics, but i felt they wasted alot of opportunity for unique story telling by having her have her baby in 4 issues. I think it should have lasted a year-years.
When i read these sw comics i just feel like theres no story or its a forced tie in with ep vii, viii, and so on.
I really like the new comics. I especially like Vader. I think they are pretty darn cool. I like the new droids. I didn't care for the Leia series, though. Chewbacca was OK, but not great. I'm sad that the Kanan series was cancelled as I really enjoyed that.
I don't know who HK-47 is, but I'm OK with that. I seem to have an opposite viewpoint of Black Knight Leader about...well....everything he's posted in this thread that deals with Star Wars.
As someone who has disagreed with Sithborg quite a bit, I've never been insulted by him in a disagreement. Vanor has never been anything but civil. Stop slandering peoples names. That said, atleast we can agree HK is the best droid.
Slander?!
You have cyber slandered me by making a false claim that people i mentioned are civil. They pick the sides of caustic people, they enjoy seeing people make the most insulting comments they can towards their enemies and people they disagree with.
You have cyber slandered me by insulting me with your false claims 5 months ago, did you think i would forget? I never forget personal attacks.
You have cyber slandered me by boldly coming into this *** topic and claiming Sithy here is civil when hes clearly attacking me, trying to get new people to ignore my comments with *** statements that hold no weight. "Oh she doesnt like the new star wars material, they are therefore wrong lolz. Ignore them."
It is a broken VdR lackey record since thats all i ever see in 90% of topics i see them in.
Frankly you and sithy should be held responsible for anyone you trick into wasting their money on these comics, trying to suppress justifiable critical negative points and the people giving them.
I never *** said HK47 is "best droid".
Btw good job derailing this *** topic, this topic was about what people think about starwars marvel comics, and you and your good buddy here had to go and make personal attacks. GOOD *** JOB
As much as I would like to ignore this post, it's just to funny not to reply too.
So first off, you really need to look up the term slander because saying something that contradicts what someone else says is NOT slander. Slander would be if I said something like BKL is a horrible person (which I don't believe, I'm sure you're a nice person IRL).
Umm, really not sure what you're trying to censor with three asterisks, I honestly can't think of a 3 letter word that fits into all those scenarios, so that's confusing.
As for that next part about being held accountable. I've never read any of these comics. I've never said people should read them. I hear some are good and some are bad. I've never said I have an opinion on any of them, although I'm disappointed that they essentially copied HK and turned him into an IG. I personally prefer EU over Disneyverse although Disneyverse does have some good stuff in it. I've never told people to "waste" money on these comics.
Again I have no idea what that 3 letter word is, but if you are really so hurt about me trying to agree on something with you, I'll take back my comment about HK. And with that, I'm done wasting my time replying to you.
I really like the new comics. I especially like Vader. I think they are pretty darn cool. I like the new droids. I didn't care for the Leia series, though. Chewbacca was OK, but not great. I'm sad that the Kanan series was cancelled as I really enjoyed that.
I don't know who HK-47 is, but I'm OK with that. I seem to have an opposite viewpoint of Black Knight Leader about...well....everything he's posted in this thread that deals with Star Wars.
I highly recommend taking a brief read up on HK. He's a great character, and certainly one of the jewels of the EU:
As much as I would like to ignore this post, it's just to funny not to reply too.
I don't think you know what funny is then.
So first off, you really need to look up the term slander because saying something that contradicts what someone else says is NOT slander.
Whats bold is an insult, and cyber slander, your implying I am stupid, in fact to stupid to know what the definition the bold word.
Tell you what, there a lot of VdM lackeys, they make personal attacks at me often, and claims. If they weren't *** slander or attacks, 3 of them wouldn't be permanently banned.
Slander would be if I said something like BKL is a horrible person (which I don't believe, I'm sure you're a nice person IRL).
This whole quote, every single bit of it, 100% of it is an insult. Implying I don't know what cyber slander is, implying I am nice.
You know what listen to these words, let them sinking in.
We have to pay for all we use.
We never think before we light the fuse.
Look up, look up, look up,
The sky is falling!
Look up, there's something that you have to do.
Before you try to go outside, to take in the view,
Look up because the sky could fall on you!
Umm, really not sure what you're trying to censor with three asterisks, I honestly can't think of a 3 letter word that fits into all those scenarios, so that's confusing.
You would like me to post it, which I cant because of the device I am on, so you can have a shot at trying to get me written up. Raise you up higher in the church of the VdM legion, and avenge your 3-4 friends that were taken down permanently. I am used to dealing with your kind, your silver forked tongue gives your intentions away.
As for that next part about being held accountable. I've never read any of these comics.
No proof for this
I'm disappointed that they essentially copied HK and turned him into an IG.
No proof for this.
I personally prefer EU over Disneyverse although Disneyverse does have some good stuff in it. I've never told people to "waste" money on these comics.
No proof for this.
Again I have no idea what that 3 letter word is, but if you are really so hurt about me trying to agree on something with you, I'll take back my comment about HK. And with that, I'm done wasting my time replying to you.
Yeah sure, you don't know what the three letter word is... Guess you wont be getting that promotion in the Church of VdM any time soon. BTW NMP
Sorry about the mess...
Take your pissing match to another thread. Jesus christ.
I agree with Toqtamish up there, anyway the comic. I also think story quality is up and down, but I am very interested to see how they tie the Luke- Vader story back to Empire. They are subtly adding more story between them that we did not know about, and overall its worth reading.
I will say, I loved the Shu-toran War.
As someone who has disagreed with Sithborg quite a bit, I've never been insulted by him in a disagreement. Vanor has never been anything but civil. Stop slandering peoples names. That said, atleast we can agree HK is the best droid.
Slander?!
You have cyber slandered me by making a false claim that people i mentioned are civil. They pick the sides of caustic people, they enjoy seeing people make the most insulting comments they can towards their enemies and people they disagree with.
You have cyber slandered me by insulting me with your false claims 5 months ago, did you think i would forget? I never forget personal attacks.
You have cyber slandered me by boldly coming into this *** topic and claiming Sithy here is civil when hes clearly attacking me, trying to get new people to ignore my comments with *** statements that hold no weight. "Oh she doesnt like the new star wars material, they are therefore wrong lolz. Ignore them."
It is a broken VdR lackey record since thats all i ever see in 90% of topics i see them in.
Frankly you and sithy should be held responsible for anyone you trick into wasting their money on these comics, trying to suppress justifiable critical negative points and the people giving them.
I never *** said HK47 is "best droid".
Btw good job derailing this *** topic, this topic was about what people think about starwars marvel comics, and you and your good buddy here had to go and make personal attacks. GOOD *** JOB
Holy moly, welcome to my ignore list buddy!
The only thing good i can say about these comics is that they stopped making Darth Vader incompetent, they screwed him over in the Rebels tv series.
Ok i well write down why i hate the vader comics but first i will just say i hate ever sw comic currently made by marvel. The stories and plots are lame, i dont feel any weight of importance in their stories, and they have added character traits that dont mesh with the characters they are using.
Now onto Vader, his comics suffer from the problems above, he uses his own troops as a shield, despite how important said troops are to him. His one real epic story, ends up not being a real story in the since that its more an art book of Darth Vader feats. I felt like the person who made that book was like, hey lets make Darth Vader bad *** he can kill lots of ***
. (Editor) those action scene ideas sound great! So what should the story be about? (Writer) he kills some ***...? (Editor) well i have heard worse...
Anyway i hate Vaders two new murder droids, i hate ig-90, i hate chopper, i hate mr. Bones. All these new droids are knock offs or borrow attributes from HK-47. They all dont feel orignal, all but ig-90 follow a characteristic in that they are all droids that appear to be harmless astromech or protocol droids that are really assassin droids or have the tendency of a assassin droid. Ig-90 just flat out talks exactly like hk-47.
They have no originality and they cheepen hk-47 by borrowing his attributes so much.
4-LOM was doing the "protocol droid that kills stuff" thing long before anybody came up with HK-47, and didn't that old "Droids" cartoon also have an evil 3PO in it? HK-47 being awesome doesn't mean that every disguised assassin droid is a ripoff of him.
Also, I'm not seeing how Mister Bones fits that mold at all, he's one of those goofy battle droids (ie always openly intended to kill stuff) except modified to actually be good at fighting.
I read all the way up until Vader Down was complete... then 1 more issue and stopped.
It wasn't BAD or anything, I just started saving for a Taylor Guitar, and I need to stop buying comic books for a few decades.
Anyhow, I liked the comics. Good stories, GREAT art... some really good scenes. I will say though, that I don't know if these stories really NEEDED to be told. I hate backstories in general, because you can never have any type of high-stakes plot. You know Vader, Luke, etc are never going to die. They are effectively immortal. You also know Luke will never find out that Vader is his Father. That secret is safe. The rebels will never kill the emperor... so that Star Wars Annual issue while awesome, was also lame at the same time because we KNEW the mission was going to fail from the first page.... (It was still a good comic though, just a shame that there was no mystery involved).
Personally I like high stakes plots. I like it when the villain has a super weapon that can destroy a planet.... and there being a VERY REAL possibility that they might actually use that weapon! If you KNOW the bad guy cannot possibly win... is the hero's fight against said bad guy all that heroic?
Summary - I don't like backstories. Comics are good despite that fact. Art especially is amazing.
That's why Vader has a pretty good supporting cast.
4-LOM was doing the "protocol droid that kills stuff" thing long before anybody came up with HK-47, and didn't that old "Droids" cartoon also have an evil 3PO in it?
If you're thinking of C-3PX - he was in the comic rather than the cartoon: