And this is quite possible

Many don't frequent the Internet etc

Lots of people take just what they need and nothing else.

If that did happen, and nobody had a replacement I wouldnt request them to spend 20 bucks on a ship they left at home for a piece of cardboard

If it was me I'd tell the neckbeards were to go, and lighten up

Like I said, it's a ******* game.

Don't think anyone should be penalized for ffg **** up

Nobody has complain how the Proton bombs or proximity mines are not 100 accurate to the original piece

All of a sudden it's a big deal

If this is the most important thing people have to worry about in a game, congrats on having nothing else more important to worry about

Settle down buddy. You're like, getting increasingly defensive (or at least that's how the last line of your post makes it look. Apologies if I have misinterpreted this). You're also making weird arguments about how people shouldn't be forced to spend $20 for new cardboard tokens if they only showed up to an event with acrylic ones. Was anybody saying that?

For myself, I was just saying that people who are aware of this defect should probably err on the side of caution AND competitive fairness and make an effort to bring the standard cardboard tokens rather than the acrylic ones. It's not a big enough issue to seriously bother me, but if it was, I'd bring along a loaner set of cardboard tokens and offer them to anyone who brought the acrylic ones citing that they weren't the correct size. If the opponent objected, then I'd let it go and deal with it, and make a mental note that this particular player doesn't mind using defective materials to gain an unfair advantage in games.

Nobody here is saying that players who show up with acrylic templates should be sent home or forced to buy an expansion to replace theirs, on the spot. Nobody is trying to vilify players who may be unaware of the defect.

We're simply having a discussion among ourselves, as players who are very interested in higher levels of competitive play, whether or not these tokens SHOULD be allowed to be used in higher levels events. It is my opinion that they should not be. I don't care enough to carry a set of loaner bomb tokens and force the issue. I absolutely would not blame anyone who did carry them around, or ask (politely) that their opponent use them, in a competitive level event.

I don't think you need the bomb card. FAQ pg 3. Probably ninjad awhile ago.

And this is quite possible

Many don't frequent the Internet etc

Lots of people take just what they need and nothing else.

If that did happen, and nobody had a replacement I wouldnt request them to spend 20 bucks on a ship they left at home for a piece of cardboard

If it was me I'd tell the neckbeards were to go, and lighten up

Like I said, it's a ******* game.

Don't think anyone should be penalized for ffg **** up

Nobody has complain how the Proton bombs or proximity mines are not 100 accurate to the original piece

All of a sudden it's a big deal

If this is the most important thing people have to worry about in a game, congrats on having nothing else more important to worry about

Settle down buddy. You're like, getting increasingly defensive (or at least that's how the last line of your post makes it look. Apologies if I have misinterpreted this). You're also making weird arguments about how people shouldn't be forced to spend $20 for new cardboard tokens if they only showed up to an event with acrylic ones. Was anybody saying that?

For myself, I was just saying that people who are aware of this defect should probably err on the side of caution AND competitive fairness and make an effort to bring the standard cardboard tokens rather than the acrylic ones. It's not a big enough issue to seriously bother me, but if it was, I'd bring along a loaner set of cardboard tokens and offer them to anyone who brought the acrylic ones citing that they weren't the correct size. If the opponent objected, then I'd let it go and deal with it, and make a mental note that this particular player doesn't mind using defective materials to gain an unfair advantage in games.

Nobody here is saying that players who show up with acrylic templates should be sent home or forced to buy an expansion to replace theirs, on the spot. Nobody is trying to vilify players who may be unaware of the defect.

We're simply having a discussion among ourselves, as players who are very interested in higher levels of competitive play, whether or not these tokens SHOULD be allowed to be used in higher levels events. It is my opinion that they should not be. I don't care enough to carry a set of loaner bomb tokens and force the issue. I absolutely would not blame anyone who did carry them around, or ask (politely) that their opponent use them, in a competitive level event.

I'm just appalled how people can get so worked up over such a thing

I mean who cares.

Play the game and enjoy it

And someone did mention they would ask a player to buy new ones which I think is ridiculous.

If someone showed up not knowing the difference, and someone has to get bent out of shape over a mm or two in the difference. Lighten up

Like I said, it's a ******* game, and people need to grow the **** up

I could care less if a player brings something which was officially handed to them through ffg

I would not ask them to replace.

I'd think cool. Nice tokens

After all its a game

I just get a kick out of some people who get so bent out of shape over a game.

"You can't use those official tokens because I don't think it's fair"

Really?

Is it really going to matter

If buddy has them then allow that extra mm when planning your movement

You can ask to see them.

What is stopping someone from taking that slight size difference into account?

(when I say you, I'm not meaning you literally lol)

Idk I think until ffg say something people should just accept it as official.

That my opinion

It's a game

I could care less if the guy across from me uses them or the original.

As long as it's ffg official, I'm not going to ***** or moan about it.

It's a game.

What I think would be sad is a 30-40 year old man call over a judge and complain about it

I mean really?

Lol sad really

(again to be clear I'm not statingv you would actually do this, but let's say some random neckbeard)

And again I just want to say this is on ffg

I blame them Not the player.

Ffg really need get their **** together.

I mean the kwing article

The reversal on the dmg deck ruling

The whole I.D fiasco

Now this

Seriously?

This company seems like they are going to **** and don't know proper way to handle things

I do look forward to what the response will be regardless of the result

I don't think you need the bomb card. FAQ of 3.

You do need the Bomb Upgrade Card for it to usable as that is what shows the points cost. You need all upgrade cards in order to field the squad.

I don't think you need the bomb card. FAQ of 3.

You do need the Bomb Upgrade Card for it to usable as that is what shows the points cost. You need all upgrade cards in order to field the squad.

Imo it's not right to refuse a player who brings these to a tournament as they are ffg official tokens

I can understand asking them to replace with the original cardboard tokens and if someone at the event had to loan out a set

However if that was not possible, I don't think it's right to refuse or ask a player to spend 20 bucks just for a piece if cardboard

If you are using the card, you should have the template. There shouldn't be a need to spend 20 dollars or have a set of the original templates loaned to you at that point.

Not entirely accurate, as the current game requires you to have two copies of the cardboard for these bombs (along with Proximity Mines and Conner Nets) in order to accommodate your Extra Munitions. This is especially true for Cluster Mines, as it's entirely probable that you won't hit with all three tokens. These acrylics would have helped with that issue.

As ridiculous as this thread is, I can't stop from commenting.

First off, if you need to use the cardboard vs. acrylic to your advantage, you're not flying casual

Second, the acrylic cluster mine tokens should be considered a misprint and treated as such. If a card had a misprint with an attack value of 15, you won't be allowed to throw 15 dice.

Even if you don't consider the acrylic cluster mine tokens a misprint, the fact that the movement template does not fit into the guides makes the token unusable, since this is a rule for using the tokens.

To the people saying it's ffg official so you can't be stopped from using it that's ridiculous. If you got a misprinted base chit that had a 125° firing arc somehow would you insist on using that? If the answer is still yes and you can't see why a TO is right to disallow that and equivalently disallow mines that are too large then I can't help you.

Also as a side note it's freaking hilarious to me that nikk whyte is the author of the big intentional draw shitstorm thread then also made the statement that they should be allowed to play with clearly crap tokens just because they're ffg official. I can't be the only one to note the irony.

Yeah, I started the **** storm. It needed to be started. You're welcome.

And this is quite possible

Many don't frequent the Internet etc

Lots of people take just what they need and nothing else.

If that did happen, and nobody had a replacement I wouldnt request them to spend 20 bucks on a ship they left at home for a piece of cardboard

If it was me I'd tell the neckbeards were to go, and lighten up

Like I said, it's a ******* game.

Don't think anyone should be penalized for ffg **** up

Nobody has complain how the Proton bombs or proximity mines are not 100 accurate to the original piece

All of a sudden it's a big deal

If this is the most important thing people have to worry about in a game, congrats on having nothing else more important to worry about

Settle down buddy. You're like, getting increasingly defensive (or at least that's how the last line of your post makes it look. Apologies if I have misinterpreted this). You're also making weird arguments about how people shouldn't be forced to spend $20 for new cardboard tokens if they only showed up to an event with acrylic ones. Was anybody saying that?

For myself, I was just saying that people who are aware of this defect should probably err on the side of caution AND competitive fairness and make an effort to bring the standard cardboard tokens rather than the acrylic ones. It's not a big enough issue to seriously bother me, but if it was, I'd bring along a loaner set of cardboard tokens and offer them to anyone who brought the acrylic ones citing that they weren't the correct size. If the opponent objected, then I'd let it go and deal with it, and make a mental note that this particular player doesn't mind using defective materials to gain an unfair advantage in games.

Nobody here is saying that players who show up with acrylic templates should be sent home or forced to buy an expansion to replace theirs, on the spot. Nobody is trying to vilify players who may be unaware of the defect.

We're simply having a discussion among ourselves, as players who are very interested in higher levels of competitive play, whether or not these tokens SHOULD be allowed to be used in higher levels events. It is my opinion that they should not be. I don't care enough to carry a set of loaner bomb tokens and force the issue. I absolutely would not blame anyone who did carry them around, or ask (politely) that their opponent use them, in a competitive level event.

I'm settled lol

I'm just appalled how people can get so worked up over such a thing

I mean who cares.

Play the game and enjoy it

And someone did mention they would ask a player to buy new ones which I think is ridiculous.

If someone showed up not knowing the difference, and someone has to get bent out of shape over a mm or two in the difference. Lighten up

Like I said, it's a ******* game, and people need to grow the **** up

I could care less if a player brings something which was officially handed to them through ffg

I would not ask them to replace.

I'd think cool. Nice tokens

After all its a game

I just get a kick out of some people who get so bent out of shape over a game.

"You can't use those official tokens because I don't think it's fair"

Really?

Is it really going to matter

If buddy has them then allow that extra mm when planning your movement

You can ask to see them.

What is stopping someone from taking that slight size difference into account?

(when I say you, I'm not meaning you literally lol)

Idk I think until ffg say something people should just accept it as official.

That my opinion

It's a game

I could care less if the guy across from me uses them or the original.

As long as it's ffg official, I'm not going to ***** or moan about it.

It's a game.

What I think would be sad is a 30-40 year old man call over a judge and complain about it

I mean really?

Lol sad really

(again to be clear I'm not statingv you would actually do this, but let's say some random neckbeard)

And again I just want to say this is on ffg

I blame them Not the player.

Ffg really need get their **** together.

I mean the kwing article

The reversal on the dmg deck ruling

The whole I.D fiasco

Now this

Seriously?

This company seems like they are going to **** and don't know proper way to handle things

I do look forward to what the response will be regardless of the result

I find it slightly hypocritical of you to say everyone "is not being casual" and getting all worked up and then turn around and rant/curse 5 times. Perhaps you need to step away for a bit.

I think it is a mistake of course, and as such will be handled as one. Nothing to be angry about really. FFG will fix it one way or another I'm sure. Things happen, nobody is perfect.

And this is quite possible

Many don't frequent the Internet etc

Lots of people take just what they need and nothing else.

If that did happen, and nobody had a replacement I wouldnt request them to spend 20 bucks on a ship they left at home for a piece of cardboard

If it was me I'd tell the neckbeards were to go, and lighten up

Like I said, it's a ******* game.

Don't think anyone should be penalized for ffg **** up

Nobody has complain how the Proton bombs or proximity mines are not 100 accurate to the original piece

All of a sudden it's a big deal

If this is the most important thing people have to worry about in a game, congrats on having nothing else more important to worry about

Settle down buddy. You're like, getting increasingly defensive (or at least that's how the last line of your post makes it look. Apologies if I have misinterpreted this). You're also making weird arguments about how people shouldn't be forced to spend $20 for new cardboard tokens if they only showed up to an event with acrylic ones. Was anybody saying that?

For myself, I was just saying that people who are aware of this defect should probably err on the side of caution AND competitive fairness and make an effort to bring the standard cardboard tokens rather than the acrylic ones. It's not a big enough issue to seriously bother me, but if it was, I'd bring along a loaner set of cardboard tokens and offer them to anyone who brought the acrylic ones citing that they weren't the correct size. If the opponent objected, then I'd let it go and deal with it, and make a mental note that this particular player doesn't mind using defective materials to gain an unfair advantage in games.

Nobody here is saying that players who show up with acrylic templates should be sent home or forced to buy an expansion to replace theirs, on the spot. Nobody is trying to vilify players who may be unaware of the defect.

We're simply having a discussion among ourselves, as players who are very interested in higher levels of competitive play, whether or not these tokens SHOULD be allowed to be used in higher levels events. It is my opinion that they should not be. I don't care enough to carry a set of loaner bomb tokens and force the issue. I absolutely would not blame anyone who did carry them around, or ask (politely) that their opponent use them, in a competitive level event.

I'm settled lol

I'm just appalled how people can get so worked up over such a thing

I mean who cares.

Play the game and enjoy it

And someone did mention they would ask a player to buy new ones which I think is ridiculous.

If someone showed up not knowing the difference, and someone has to get bent out of shape over a mm or two in the difference. Lighten up

Like I said, it's a ******* game, and people need to grow the **** up

I could care less if a player brings something which was officially handed to them through ffg

I would not ask them to replace.

I'd think cool. Nice tokens

After all its a game

I just get a kick out of some people who get so bent out of shape over a game.

"You can't use those official tokens because I don't think it's fair"

Really?

Is it really going to matter

If buddy has them then allow that extra mm when planning your movement

You can ask to see them.

What is stopping someone from taking that slight size difference into account?

(when I say you, I'm not meaning you literally lol)

Idk I think until ffg say something people should just accept it as official.

That my opinion

It's a game

I could care less if the guy across from me uses them or the original.

As long as it's ffg official, I'm not going to ***** or moan about it.

It's a game.

What I think would be sad is a 30-40 year old man call over a judge and complain about it

I mean really?

Lol sad really

(again to be clear I'm not statingv you would actually do this, but let's say some random neckbeard)

And again I just want to say this is on ffg

I blame them Not the player.

Ffg really need get their **** together.

I mean the kwing article

The reversal on the dmg deck ruling

The whole I.D fiasco

Now this

Seriously?

This company seems like they are going to **** and don't know proper way to handle things

I do look forward to what the response will be regardless of the result

I find it slightly hypocritical of you to say everyone "is not being casual" and getting all worked up and then turn around and rant/curse 5 times. Perhaps you need to step away for a bit.

I think it is a mistake of course, and as such will be handled as one. Nothing to be angry about really. FFG will fix it one way or another I'm sure. Things happen, nobody is perfect.

And this is quite possible

Many don't frequent the Internet etc

Lots of people take just what they need and nothing else.

If that did happen, and nobody had a replacement I wouldnt request them to spend 20 bucks on a ship they left at home for a piece of cardboard

If it was me I'd tell the neckbeards were to go, and lighten up

Like I said, it's a ******* game.

Don't think anyone should be penalized for ffg **** up

Nobody has complain how the Proton bombs or proximity mines are not 100 accurate to the original piece

All of a sudden it's a big deal

If this is the most important thing people have to worry about in a game, congrats on having nothing else more important to worry about

Settle down buddy. You're like, getting increasingly defensive (or at least that's how the last line of your post makes it look. Apologies if I have misinterpreted this). You're also making weird arguments about how people shouldn't be forced to spend $20 for new cardboard tokens if they only showed up to an event with acrylic ones. Was anybody saying that?

For myself, I was just saying that people who are aware of this defect should probably err on the side of caution AND competitive fairness and make an effort to bring the standard cardboard tokens rather than the acrylic ones. It's not a big enough issue to seriously bother me, but if it was, I'd bring along a loaner set of cardboard tokens and offer them to anyone who brought the acrylic ones citing that they weren't the correct size. If the opponent objected, then I'd let it go and deal with it, and make a mental note that this particular player doesn't mind using defective materials to gain an unfair advantage in games.

Nobody here is saying that players who show up with acrylic templates should be sent home or forced to buy an expansion to replace theirs, on the spot. Nobody is trying to vilify players who may be unaware of the defect.

We're simply having a discussion among ourselves, as players who are very interested in higher levels of competitive play, whether or not these tokens SHOULD be allowed to be used in higher levels events. It is my opinion that they should not be. I don't care enough to carry a set of loaner bomb tokens and force the issue. I absolutely would not blame anyone who did carry them around, or ask (politely) that their opponent use them, in a competitive level event.

I'm settled lol

I'm just appalled how people can get so worked up over such a thing

I mean who cares.

Play the game and enjoy it

And someone did mention they would ask a player to buy new ones which I think is ridiculous.

If someone showed up not knowing the difference, and someone has to get bent out of shape over a mm or two in the difference. Lighten up

Like I said, it's a ******* game, and people need to grow the **** up

I could care less if a player brings something which was officially handed to them through ffg

I would not ask them to replace.

I'd think cool. Nice tokens

After all its a game

I just get a kick out of some people who get so bent out of shape over a game.

"You can't use those official tokens because I don't think it's fair"

Really?

Is it really going to matter

If buddy has them then allow that extra mm when planning your movement

You can ask to see them.

What is stopping someone from taking that slight size difference into account?

(when I say you, I'm not meaning you literally lol)

Idk I think until ffg say something people should just accept it as official.

That my opinion

It's a game

I could care less if the guy across from me uses them or the original.

As long as it's ffg official, I'm not going to ***** or moan about it.

It's a game.

What I think would be sad is a 30-40 year old man call over a judge and complain about it

I mean really?

Lol sad really

(again to be clear I'm not statingv you would actually do this, but let's say some random neckbeard)

And again I just want to say this is on ffg

I blame them Not the player.

Ffg really need get their **** together.

I mean the kwing article

The reversal on the dmg deck ruling

The whole I.D fiasco

Now this

Seriously?

This company seems like they are going to **** and don't know proper way to handle things

I do look forward to what the response will be regardless of the result

I find it slightly hypocritical of you to say everyone "is not being casual" and getting all worked up and then turn around and rant/curse 5 times. Perhaps you need to step away for a bit.

I think it is a mistake of course, and as such will be handled as one. Nothing to be angry about really. FFG will fix it one way or another I'm sure. Things happen, nobody is perfect.

I just think it's silly if someone made a big stink over it

Also I curse. Anyone who knows me knows I drop a lot of f bombs (drives wife nuts lol)

So sue me

If me cursing signifies me getting worked up, then I'm afraid people don't know me.

I'm not worked up

And I have a bad habit of writing lots of text.

I think it's just foolish if someone denied someone for using them

I love the unfair advantage argument. If ffg says this is legal what are those players going to do?

Maybe they will, maybe they won't. We don't know yet.

But to say they are illegal, I mean what gives anyone the right?

Nobody can say for certain

All we know is these are issues through ffg. For me that's enough

Again this is where I think it's a game and people need to lighten up.

I won't ***** to a judge if my opponent has these

Good for him, he did well at a regional. Congrats, now let's play

But to say they are illegal, I mean what gives anyone the right?

Nobody can say for certain

Being a Marshall at a tournament does.

If FFG comes out and says you have to allow them, then so be it,but that is only applicable at Official FFG events such as Store Championships, Regionals, Imdaar Alpha, etc. Given the stir they have created I would announce it way prior to the tournament if something like this isn't allowed.

Fly casual is cool and all, but it doesn't mean that the Marshall has to allow certain players unfair advantages or to use misprinted FFG acrylic bomb tokens, or any other misprinted item for that matter regardless of the source.

But to say they are illegal, I mean what gives anyone the right?

Nobody can say for certain

Being a Marshall at a tournament does.

If FFG comes out and says you have to allow them, then so be it,but that is only applicable at Official FFG events such as Store Championships, Regionals, Imdaar Alpha, etc. Given the stir they have created I would announce it way prior to the tournament if something like this isn't allowed.

Fly casual is cool and all, but it doesn't mean that the Marshall has to allow certain players unfair advantages or to use misprinted FFG acrylic bomb tokens, or any other misprinted item for that matter regardless of the source.

I guess nothing is stopping them, but I think if grown men have to complain about it, then they are a sad bunch

I don't really see it as an unfair advantage.

What's preventing ac player from asking to see them before the game starts.

If it's the much of a concern ask, and I'm sure buddy would probably hand it over.

When doing your movement take in account a couple mm.

I'm sorry I'm not trying to offend anyone (but I guess I am playing the devil advocate) But I mean if a grown man had to cry he's not playing fair over a bomb plastic token, wow. Sad man.

(not intended toward you just any grown man)

I always get a kick out of how worked up some can get about this game.

I mean there's a certain point when it's just silly.

If someone is using 3rd party tokens that are obviously not the correct size, or using loaded dice Ya, OK that's called for.

In this case meh. You got something legitimately, sure go ahead and use it.

If I saw someone beside my table Complain about it, I'd speak up. I'd tell him, don't be such a ***** man

You cannot use the Acrylic Cluster Mine tokens, because it is impossible to do step 1.

You cannot use the Acrylic Cluster Mine tokens, because it is impossible to do step 1.

of the nubs.

Says in the rules you are allowed to modify certain components

Doesn't say you can't modify the cluster bomb tokens in order to make the template fit

I'm just saying is all

Delete

Growl

I wonder what ffg is going to do fix this miss

I'm just annoyed at this company.

They don't seem very professional as of late with their back peddling on rules, bad articles falsely advertising ships

Seems like a bunch of gradeschool kids are running the place

Poetry

I think you're the only one who's actually worked up about this.

1. Who's actually using cluster mines

2. There's usually someone who's got unused cardboard cluster mines who'll let you borrow them if the TO says your acrylic clusters are bad and should feel bad

3. But seriously, who's actually using cluster mines*

[*] Edit: I checked Store Champs this year in List Juggler. 20 out of 4036 lists, or less than 0.5% of lists

This is definitely a cluster of something.

Poetry

I think you're the only one who's actually worked up about this.

1. Who's actually using cluster mines

2. There's usually someone who's got unused cardboard cluster mines who'll let you borrow them if the TO says your acrylic clusters are bad and should feel bad

3. But seriously, who's actually using cluster mines*

[*] Edit: I checked Store Champs this year in List Juggler. 20 out of 4036 lists, or less than 0.5% of lists

Just enjoying this thread actually

So hypocritically if ffg did allow them, a TO should be allowed to refuse them at say a league night?

I guess nothing is stopping them, but I think if grown men have to complain about it, then they are a sad bunch

I don't really see it as an unfair advantage.

What's preventing ac player from asking to see them before the game starts.

If it's the much of a concern ask, and I'm sure buddy would probably hand it over.

When doing your movement take in account a couple mm.

I'm sorry I'm not trying to offend anyone (but I guess I am playing the devil advocate) But I've mean if a grown man had to cry he's not playing fair over a bomb plastic token, wow. Sad man

(not intended toward you just any grown man)

Did you mean hypothetically or Hypocritically?

First line in the X-Wing rules document:

"Tournaments supported by the Organized Play (“OP”) program for the Star Wars™: X-Wing™ Miniatures Game, sponsored by Fantasy Flight Games (“FFG”) and its international partners, follow the rules provided in this document."

So hypothetically, yes, in non FFG sanctioned tournaments the Marshall may exclude things such as the acrylic bomb tokens.

Hypocritically, no, nothing hypocritical about it. I'm not FFG therefore I'mm not being hypocritical.

So hypocritically if ffg did allow them, a TO should be allowed to refuse them at say a league night?

I guess nothing is stopping them, but I think if grown men have to complain about it, then they are a sad bunch

I don't really see it as an unfair advantage.

What's preventing ac player from asking to see them before the game starts.

If it's the much of a concern ask, and I'm sure buddy would probably hand it over.

When doing your movement take in account a couple mm.

I'm sorry I'm not trying to offend anyone (but I guess I am playing the devil advocate) But I've mean if a grown man had to cry he's not playing fair over a bomb plastic token, wow. Sad man

(not intended toward you just any grown man)

Did you mean hypothetically or Hypocritically?

First line in the X-Wing rules document:

"Tournaments supported by the Organized Play (“OP”) program for the Star Wars™: X-Wing™ Miniatures Game, sponsored by Fantasy Flight Games (“FFG”) and its international partners, follow the rules provided in this document."

So hypothetically, yes, in non FFG sanctioned tournaments the Marshall may exclude things such as the acrylic bomb tokens.

Hypocritically, no, nothing hypocritical about it. I'm not FFG therefore I'mm not being hypocritical.

Got to love auto correct

Consider this as to be the fix for the Cluster Mines.

Hypothetical

Got to love auto correct

ok....... thought so, just covering both bases.

The one thing I will say is I think FFG needs to "Man up" and either give the owners of said templates good ones or just make a decision one way or another....

I can understand some variance with acrylics and products such as base chit printed arcs and cardboard tokens..... but this is unnaceptable variance.

Whoever it was that suggested modifying the size of the nubs of a token, that is against the rules.

Components can be modified only as described under “Component Modifications” on page 6.

The only modifications permitted to tokens and templates under Component Modifications:

Players may mark their tokens and their maneuver dials to indicate ownership as long as the function of the component is not compromised.