That trade thread is unwealdy to say the least.

I've seen "we don't take responsibility for any jacked up trades you have" subforums for other games.

Whay not X-Wing?

In a subforum, folks could do title searches for posted goods they want as long as folks are smart about how they title. Sure, this has limits, but it seems better than 1 giant thread.

What do you say?

Yay or Nay.

I find the trade thread quite useful, if you are interested in trading you can follow the thread and see when new posts are made. Usually everything past a couple of pages back is usually already gone. Those who are interested in trading usually keep an updated post, which reminds me.....I need to update my list.

Nay

As a guy that traded a TON of the WoTC SW minis, a sub forum is so much easier to navigate. I don't even bother with the Big Trade Thread here even though I have over a dozen ships I'd like to trade off. The current system is too unwieldy.

So a big "YAY" from me.

EDIT: I'm guessing the only people that say nay are ones that have never traded on a subforum where each person has their own trade thread within the sub forum. It is WAY better and will greatly increase the amount of trading activity, and the ease of finding items and people you want to trade with.

Considering that uncollectible nature of the game, I don't see any reason for them to risk it. Especially since moderation is extremely light.

Considering that uncollectible nature of the game, I don't see any reason for them to risk it. Especially since moderation is extremely light.

Risk what? Not sure making a subforum is a risk. We have 6 subforums already.

Afraid the 7th will cause the forums to crash?

Legal risk. I mean, they took down the custom forum because of jumpy lawyers.

Considering that uncollectible nature of the game, I don't see any reason for them to risk it. Especially since moderation is extremely light.

Wyrd has one for Malifaux that has been running for 5+ years.

Back when I played WM/H throughout Mk1, PP had one too.

There are different ways that FFG could think about this...

1. It is better to NOT facilitate players trading as it can cut into profits. Every traded ship is a lost sale.

2. It is better to facilitate trading as it can increase player satisfaction and longevity; people who keep playing keep buying new stuff.

Considering that uncollectible nature of the game, I don't see any reason for them to risk it. Especially since moderation is extremely light.

Wyrd has one for Malifaux that has been running for 5+ years.

Back when I played WM/H throughout Mk1, PP had one too.

There are different ways that FFG could think about this...

1. It is better to NOT facilitate players trading as it can cut into profits. Every traded ship is a lost sale.

2. It is better to facilitate trading as it can increase player satisfaction and longevity; people who keep playing keep buying new stuff.

Malifaux and X-Wing are a bit different in nature. That's like saying this apple has a red skin, so everything round should round should as well.

We asked for a painting subforum and it seemed nice for a little bit, but then people didn't really use it much. It's probably best not to increase their burden.

Sure they are different games, but I am only really talking about the stuff used in those games (ships, figures, cards) as comodities that can be bartered.

I think a trading subforum would be a good idea. That way people could specifically post what they're after/looking to get rid of as separate threads.

Another wargaming forum I'm a member of does it that way. There is also a "sitckied" thread where you post when you have a trade to rate the other party. e.g. "Dr Zoidberg +1". It is periodically tidied up and users' ratings are listed in the first post. That way, it gives a measure of confidence to users before entering into trades.

No.

Expanding: The most valuable thing we trade here is ideas. For everything else, there is ebay/kajiji.

Just as an aside, do remember that this forum is owned and operated by FFG. There are the legal ramifications to consider of course. But, they also may be hesitant to create a forum dedicated to people exchanging goods instead of purchasing more from them. Which I think as a business is a perfectly reasonable stance for them to have.

Personally, I don't think its necessary. There are plenty of forums for trading right now with facebook, ebay, kajiji (WTH is that?) and other wargames sites as Darius said above.

I think a trading forum would be great myself. Especially if you are able to setup sub groups based on country of original etc... as I've often got talking to someone about a trade only to realise they are in the US and I'm in the UK, so postage generally makes a trade not viable. Of course my opinion comes from a non legal point of view. However, if FFG didn't like us trading then they would have 'moderated' the trading thread that already exists wouldn't they?

I think a trading forum would be great myself. Especially if you are able to setup sub groups based on country of original etc... as I've often got talking to someone about a trade only to realise they are in the US and I'm in the UK, so postage generally makes a trade not viable. Of course my opinion comes from a non legal point of view. However, if FFG didn't like us trading then they would have 'moderated' the trading thread that already exists wouldn't they?

I see your point, my point is I don't think they will go out of there way to create the space if that makes any sense.

I think a trading forum would be great myself. Especially if you are able to setup sub groups based on country of original etc... as I've often got talking to someone about a trade only to realise they are in the US and I'm in the UK, so postage generally makes a trade not viable. Of course my opinion comes from a non legal point of view. However, if FFG didn't like us trading then they would have 'moderated' the trading thread that already exists wouldn't they?

I see your point, my point is I don't think they will go out of there way to create the space if that makes any sense.

Yep, I agree. Purely from a selfish point of view I would like one

Trading subforums are a bad idea. Follow the trade thread if you're interested in trading for official goodies, there are a ton of active traders, and there is a ton of active trades going on. Not exactly sure why you say that a subforum will increase trades, but whatevs. Our system works great, and our dear baron does a great job of monitoring the posts for good and bad trades. I see that you want to try something new, and that's fine, but we have a system that works. Why f**k with it?

Edit: Grammar

In a subforum, folks could do title searches for posted goods they want as long as folks are smart about how they title. Sure, this has limits, but it seems better than 1 giant thread.

You can use the search function within the Big Trade thread to find specific posts. Works for me and is even easier IMO.

When I read the post's title, I thought it was asking if we needed a training sub-forum !

Just check out the malifaux trading subforum and if you can't see how this would make it easier to navigate then I'm afraid your mind will not be changed

In a subforum, folks could do title searches for posted goods they want as long as folks are smart about how they title. Sure, this has limits, but it seems better than 1 giant thread.

You can use the search function within the Big Trade thread to find specific posts. Works for me and is even easier IMO.

So typing in what you want (hoping no one abbreviates or misspells) is easier than just clicking on the sub forum and scanning the titles of a few threads? Sure you can search the big thread, and get posts that are 2 years old and the player has been out of the game for a while. With a sub forum, the people that aren't actively seeking to trade are dropped further down until they just disappear.

Trading subforums are a bad idea. Follow the trade thread if you're interested in trading for official goodies, there are a ton of active traders, and there is a ton of active trades going on. Not exactly sure why you say that a subforum will increase trades, but whatevs. Our system works great, and our dear baron does a great job of monitoring the posts for good and bad trades. I see that you want to try something new, and that's fine, but we have a system that works. Why f**k with it?

Edit: Grammar

Our system doesn't work great. I don't use it because it's nothing more than a way to shuffle around ownership of alt art cards right now. When I have my own thread that I can prune and update (which also puts me higher on the list so everyone knows I'm still actively trading), I get many more offers and interest in trades. Trust me I like trading, a lot. I had a trade rating well into double digits on the old WoTC board for SW minis. A lot of people did. Sure. the collectible nature helped that along, but people were way more active when it was easier to shop. The thread can't be that active...it's currently on page 4 of the forums.

If anyone has never seen what a sub forum on trading looks like just check out the Malifaux trading forum here.

I feel like I'm trying to explain why a four wheeled car is better than a three-wheeled car to people that have never owned a four-wheeled car. There is literally nothing that isn't improved by having a sub forum.

EDIT: I don't mean to tick anyone off or pick on anyone, it's just that I know there is a better way. I currently have more than 15 ships I'd love to trade rather than sell and give ebay, UPSP, and paypal a good chunk of.

Yes.

I'm not sure they would want to openly encourage trading minis here - every mini you trade for is one less purchased from a retailer and, subsequently, FFG and Asmodee

Risk what? Not sure making a subforum is a risk. We have 6 subforums already.

Afraid the 7th will cause the forums to crash?

We had a 7th. For painting and modeling. We couldn't even get them to keep that open, and that was way more deserving of it's own forum.

Just check out the malifaux trading subforum and if you can't see how this would make it easier to navigate then I'm afraid your mind will not be changed

In a subforum, folks could do title searches for posted goods they want as long as folks are smart about how they title. Sure, this has limits, but it seems better than 1 giant thread.

You can use the search function within the Big Trade thread to find specific posts. Works for me and is even easier IMO.

So typing in what you want (hoping no one abbreviates or misspells) is easier than just clicking on the sub forum and scanning the titles of a few threads? Sure you can search the big thread, and get posts that are 2 years old and the player has been out of the game for a while. With a sub forum, the people that aren't actively seeking to trade are dropped further down until they just disappear.

Trading subforums are a bad idea. Follow the trade thread if you're interested in trading for official goodies, there are a ton of active traders, and there is a ton of active trades going on. Not exactly sure why you say that a subforum will increase trades, but whatevs. Our system works great, and our dear baron does a great job of monitoring the posts for good and bad trades. I see that you want to try something new, and that's fine, but we have a system that works. Why f**k with it?

Edit: Grammar

Our system doesn't work great. I don't use it because it's nothing more than a way to shuffle around ownership of alt art cards right now. When I have my own thread that I can prune and update (which also puts me higher on the list so everyone knows I'm still actively trading), I get many more offers and interest in trades. Trust me I like trading, a lot. I had a trade rating well into double digits on the old WoTC board for SW minis. A lot of people did. Sure. the collectible nature helped that along, but people were way more active when it was easier to shop. The thread can't be that active...it's currently on page 4 of the forums.

If anyone has never seen what a sub forum on trading looks like just check out the Malifaux trading forum here.

I feel like I'm trying to explain why a four wheeled car is better than a three-wheeled car to people that have never owned a four-wheeled car. There is literally nothing that isn't improved by having a sub forum.

EDIT: I don't mean to tick anyone off or pick on anyone, it's just that I know there is a better way. I currently have more than 15 ships I'd love to trade rather than sell and give ebay, UPSP, and paypal a good chunk of.

Have to agree with this post. IMO the current single trading thread is not good enough anymore. It served it's purpose to start with, but the community has grown beyond it's usefulness now. I don't use it at all because I find it unwieldy. Other suggestions of Facebook/eBay etc... seem to be missing the point.