Its obvious she is the secret love child of Darth Maul and Obi Wan...

She clearly is the love child of Anakin and Ahsoka.

I'm wondering if Rey is the daughter of Ezra so he'll be Kylo's new master in episode 8 and just because all the bickering is annoying me that Finn turns out to be Luke's son its just that it was so unlikely and they never bothered to compare his dna with Kylo to realise their mistake!

The bad thing is that you might be actually right about Ezra, Rey and the knights of Ren.

There isn't really a lot of info to back up an Obi-Wan parentage since in Kanobi he ends up on Tatooine pretty much right after Luke is born and stays there the whole time.

Hence why a) he's her grandfather, and b) Padme is her grandmother.

Man you are shipping some crazy ships! Stop reading Star Wars slash/fic !! It's poisoning your mind!

Okay, let's be serious now. In all likelihood, Rey issued forth from Beldorion the Hutt's splendid uterus.

Its obvious she is the secret love child of Darth Maul and Obi Wan...

She clearly is the love child of Anakin and Ahsoka.

I'm wondering if Rey is the daughter of Ezra so he'll be Kylo's new master in episode 8 and just because all the bickering is annoying me that Finn turns out to be Luke's son its just that it was so unlikely and they never bothered to compare his dna with Kylo to realise their mistake!

The bad thing is that you might be actually right about Ezra, Rey and the knights of Ren.

Hmmm... I think it's likely that the new villain Del Toro is playing in VIII is Erza but I think he turns sometime during the end of Rebels so it's unlikely he's her father as Luke would never have left her alone while he was still alive.

Oh there are reasons Luke would leave his daughter alone and as far away from himself as possible

1. Keep the First Order from kidnapping her and turning her into Darth Emo

2. Keep her from being killed when ever some wannabe Emo Darth Vader tries to murder him.

3. Keep some Republic idiot from kidnapping her and using her to force him to support them.

4. Keep her from getting killed when any Hutt tries to have him killed for the Jabba incident

5. Keep the various Hutt Cartels from kidnapping her and using her to have him kill off the other Hutts.

Get the Picture yet?

Luke has got a ton of enemies and lots of idiots who would want to prove themselves to be BMFs by killing the Great Legendary Luke Skywalker and having a kid makes the kid the biggest target in the Galaxy and sure Luke is powerful, but that doesn't stop some Wannabe Empire captain with a Star Destroyer from nuking Luke and his family from orbit.

She could be the daughter of Thane Kyrell and Ciena Ree from Lost Stars. There are a few visual clues as well some story bits: The fact she is on Jakku (Likely the only reason Jakku is in SW VIII is this book), the crashed Star Destroyer she makes her living from, and her "natural" piloting skills.

Both of them were the best pilots in the Imperial Academy, and the books kept eluding to the Force in their encounters and their strong, almost connected way they could fly together, even though they didn't have any training. Plus they both ended up on Jakku after crashing a Star Destroyer...

Gonna throw this out there just because this was startlingly obvious to me whilst reading the book but maybe not others... Ciena is black. Like she has dark brown skin and black hair (and it's described as having a curl suspiciously similar to describing natural hair). And whilst mixed-race women were called back for Rey's auditions, Daisy Ridley is very certainly white.

Sorry OP. That just jumped out to me and while I loved Lost Stars, I felt the purpose of it was to show how screwed up people got when they ended up in the vicinity of the Skywalker clan. Let's be honest, the story of Star Wars is how a family accidentally screwed up an entire galaxy for like 50 years (longer if you consider Legends stuff). Hence why, let's be honest, Rey is somehow related to someone we've seen before and I'm leaning towards a Skywalker since their family drama tends to have a death toll in the thousands (conservatively) if not billions (someone book them into some intensive family counselling sessions)

She could be the daughter of Thane Kyrell and Ciena Ree from Lost Stars. There are a few visual clues as well some story bits: The fact she is on Jakku (Likely the only reason Jakku is in SW VIII is this book), the crashed Star Destroyer she makes her living from, and her "natural" piloting skills.

Both of them were the best pilots in the Imperial Academy, and the books kept eluding to the Force in their encounters and their strong, almost connected way they could fly together, even though they didn't have any training. Plus they both ended up on Jakku after crashing a Star Destroyer...

Gonna throw this out there just because this was startlingly obvious to me whilst reading the book but maybe not others... Ciena is black. Like she has dark brown skin and black hair (and it's described as having a curl suspiciously similar to describing natural hair). And whilst mixed-race women were called back for Rey's auditions, Daisy Ridley is very certainly white.

Sorry OP. That just jumped out to me and while I loved Lost Stars, I felt the purpose of it was to show how screwed up people got when they ended up in the vicinity of the Skywalker clan. Let's be honest, the story of Star Wars is how a family accidentally screwed up an entire galaxy for like 50 years (longer if you consider Legends stuff). Hence why, let's be honest, Rey is somehow related to someone we've seen before and I'm leaning towards a Skywalker since their family drama tends to have a death toll in the thousands (conservatively) if not billions (someone book them into some intensive family counselling sessions)

Holy cr*p I totally forgot that part... (face-palm). I remember it now, silly mistake on my part. Thanks for the correction.

So going by the novel Bloodlines, it seems that Ben Solo's betrayal of Luke and his taking the identity of Kylo Ren only happened less than six years ago, since in the book Leia makes mention that her son is training with Luke and is a loyal disciple.

If Rey is indeed Luke's daughter, she'd have had to have been abandoned on Jakku long before Luke's new generation of Jedi were murdered, since Rey in the film is about 19 years old and in that flashback sequence she sure as heck doesn't look like she'd be in her early teens.

Luke has a unique Force ability to see into the future, as far as I know only he Vader and Sidious could do this. Ray also seems to have this ability as she saw had an image of the island in her mine when Kilo Ren was probing around for the map. It doesn't seem unique at first because all these character have this ability but thats because they are the focus of the storyline and other major figures like Yoda and Obi Wan couldn't, and neither could any of the Jedi Counsel.

I't possible that Luke foresaw Ben's betrayal and thought he could keep it from happening, to save Ben as he did his father. However he's also wise enough to have a plan B.

In any case Suma99 is right, you might as well be wearing a red shirt if you get mixed up with a Skywalker...

Luke has a unique Force ability to see into the future, as far as I know only he Vader and Sidious could do this. Ray also seems to have this ability as she saw had an image of the island in her mine when Kilo Ren was probing around for the map. It doesn't seem unique at first because all these character have this ability but thats because they are the focus of the storyline and other major figures like Yoda and Obi Wan couldn't, and neither could any of the Jedi Counsel.

I't possible that Luke foresaw Ben's betrayal and thought he could keep it from happening, to save Ben as he did his father. However he's also wise enough to have a plan B.

In any case Suma99 is right, you might as well be wearing a red shirt if you get mixed up with a Skywalker...

Yoda could see into the future just fine. He did it in Empire Strikes Back when Luke asked him if his friends would die. "Difficult to see, always in motion is the future." Plus he even explained right before Luke had his vision...that he'd be having visions. "Through Force, things you will see, distant places...the future...the past....old friends long gone." That's hardly the response of someone who has no idea how to see into the future. And he also illustrated ability with it in Attack of the Clones, when he sensed Anakin's pain, which is technically the same thing that Luke did. He sensed current events, or reeeeaaally soon to happen events (like that day). So Yoda could do the same thing.

The fact that directors and writers only let a few people have the Plot Device McGuffin Foresee, doesn't mean it's a unique ability that only a handful of people can have.

You could argue that Luke's visions were clear and Yoda couldn't actually see anything much. In any case I remember reading somewhere that the Skywalker line was special in this ability, I just can't remember where...

You could argue that Luke's visions were clear and Yoda couldn't actually see anything much. In any case I remember reading somewhere that the Skywalker line was special in this ability, I just can't remember where...

I agree that neither of them get a clear picture of what's to come, but the power has never been described as being super clear or reliable.

We don't actually see Luke's vision. All we know is that:

He saw a city in the clouds.

They were in pain.

That's it.

By design, it's vague (because it's a narrative plot device to move the protagonist to the next set piece). It doesn't come with a calendar and a time index. From the very start of knowing that the Force lets you see the future, it's given a major caveat of it not being 100% percent reliable, because "always in motion is the future". Or perhaps he says "Always EMOTION is the future", meaning you have feelings about future events, but nothing specific. Never was sure what he actually says there, either could work in my opinion. Regardless, it's hardly a precise science, this fortune telling aspect of the Force.

As to it being written somewhere, that the Skywalker line has a special ability (aside from being Force Jesus babies and Super Sayan level of Force power), I would suspect it was something from the EU perhaps? Which means it's not canon. Even if it was canon, we see examples of this in other Star Wars mediums. Rebels has several of the Force users have visions of the future (ones we actually see in the show too), so it's hardly a Skywalker specific thing.

So going by the novel Bloodlines, it seems that Ben Solo's betrayal of Luke and his taking the identity of Kylo Ren only happened less than six years ago, since in the book Leia makes mention that her son is training with Luke and is a loyal disciple.

If Rey is indeed Luke's daughter, she'd have had to have been abandoned on Jakku long before Luke's new generation of Jedi were murdered, since Rey in the film is about 19 years old and in that flashback sequence she sure as heck doesn't look like she'd be in her early teens.

OK, here's a quick question: Where is Luke's Academy located in Bloodlines? Under the old EU, it was on Yavin IV. I'm gathering that this is no longer the case?

So going by the novel Bloodlines, it seems that Ben Solo's betrayal of Luke and his taking the identity of Kylo Ren only happened less than six years ago, since in the book Leia makes mention that her son is training with Luke and is a loyal disciple.

If Rey is indeed Luke's daughter, she'd have had to have been abandoned on Jakku long before Luke's new generation of Jedi were murdered, since Rey in the film is about 19 years old and in that flashback sequence she sure as heck doesn't look like she'd be in her early teens.

OK, here's a quick question: Where is Luke's Academy located in Bloodlines? Under the old EU, it was on Yavin IV. I'm gathering that this is no longer the case?

No idea, and at this point I don't think it's ever been stated where Luke had set up shop. I suppose Yavin 4 is possible, but that always struck me as lazy storytelling on the author's part to recycle that world from the films.

It sounds like Luke was keeping things pretty hush-hush, with the location being a well-guarded secret that very few beings knew about, ostensibly so that those beings opposed to the return of the Jedi (namely, the First Order) wouldn't be able to just bombard the planet from orbit and be done with it.

I doubt it. This article seems to suggest it had been set up on Devaron. According to this , there's an old Jedi temple there.

Personally, I liked Yavin as the home of Luke's Jedi.

So going by the novel Bloodlines, it seems that Ben Solo's betrayal of Luke and his taking the identity of Kylo Ren only happened less than six years ago, since in the book Leia makes mention that her son is training with Luke and is a loyal disciple.

If Rey is indeed Luke's daughter, she'd have had to have been abandoned on Jakku long before Luke's new generation of Jedi were murdered, since Rey in the film is about 19 years old and in that flashback sequence she sure as heck doesn't look like she'd be in her early teens.

OK, here's a quick question: Where is Luke's Academy located in Bloodlines? Under the old EU, it was on Yavin IV. I'm gathering that this is no longer the case?

No idea, and at this point I don't think it's ever been stated where Luke had set up shop. I suppose Yavin 4 is possible, but that always struck me as lazy storytelling on the author's part to recycle that world from the films.

Sadly, one thing that Star Wars is known for, is recycling old locations over and over. So it wouldn't surprise me if they did exactly that. Though simply from a security angle, and given how much emphasis Ep. 7 put on him being secretive, I find it unlikely that they actually went with that plot route. He likely picked some hole in the wall planet that was at the arse end of the galaxy, that nobody would care to look at, strictly for secrecy sake.

I doubt it. This article seems to suggest it had been set up on Devaron. According to this , there's an old Jedi temple there.

Personally, I liked Yavin as the home of Luke's Jedi.

Said article is based upon supposition, and while he did go to Devaron in the story Weapon of the Jedi, said adventure wasn't long after the Battle of Endor, and he didn't set up shop there.

I think the fact the location of Luke's training temple hasn't been confirmed is deliberate, leaving the door open for the place to be visited at a later date, with my guess being either Episode VIII or IX since it would be a heck of location for Luke and Kylo to met up after the betrayal.

I doubt it. This article seems to suggest it had been set up on Devaron. According to this , there's an old Jedi temple there.

Personally, I liked Yavin as the home of Luke's Jedi.

Said article is based upon supposition, and while he did go to Devaron in the story Weapon of the Jedi, said adventure wasn't long after the Battle of Endor, and he didn't set up shop there.

I think the fact the location of Luke's training temple hasn't been confirmed is deliberate, leaving the door open for the place to be visited at a later date, with my guess being either Episode VIII or IX since it would be a heck of location for Luke and Kylo to met up after the betrayal.

TFA seemed very set on bringing in new, previously unmentioned worlds. I'd be inclined to believe that it will either be a new planet not previously in Legends or Canon or a planet mentioned in passing. Correct me if I'm wrong (haven't rewatched Force Awakens in a while) but aren't there no planets which have previously been shown? Let me list (and correct me if I miss any...)

Jakku

Starkiller Base (doesn't look like any planet previously seen, being more taiga than tundra a-la Hoth)

Takodana

Hosnian Prime

D'Quar

With the new canon it looks like they really are trying to create their own new planets/galactic cartography.

I doubt it. This article seems to suggest it had been set up on Devaron. According to this , there's an old Jedi temple there.

Personally, I liked Yavin as the home of Luke's Jedi.

Said article is based upon supposition, and while he did go to Devaron in the story Weapon of the Jedi, said adventure wasn't long after the Battle of Endor, and he didn't set up shop there.

I think the fact the location of Luke's training temple hasn't been confirmed is deliberate, leaving the door open for the place to be visited at a later date, with my guess being either Episode VIII or IX since it would be a heck of location for Luke and Kylo to met up after the betrayal.

TFA seemed very set on bringing in new, previously unmentioned worlds. I'd be inclined to believe that it will either be a new planet not previously in Legends or Canon or a planet mentioned in passing. Correct me if I'm wrong (haven't rewatched Force Awakens in a while) but aren't there no planets which have previously been shown? Let me list (and correct me if I miss any...)

Jakku

Starkiller Base (doesn't look like any planet previously seen, being more taiga than tundra a-la Hoth)

Takodana

Hosnian Prime

D'Quar

With the new canon it looks like they really are trying to create their own new planets/galactic cartography.

As far as I can recall you are correct. Every world shown was a new world, though I would say that Jakku is just a re-skin of Tatooine, so spiritually you might say they've rehashed an old planet. But yeah, none of the planets shown are from previous material, that I know of anyway.

Since we're spitballing here ...

What if Rey and Ben are siblings?

I really hope that they don't go that direction. If they do they may as well but the reset button and bring back legends at that point.

Since we're spitballing here ...

What if Rey and Ben are siblings?

I really hope that they don't go that direction. If they do they may as well but the reset button and bring back legends at that point.

Considering most theories have them to be cousins, it's not that big of a stretch. I've heard people state theories that they are siblings, but I doubt it, simply because it would require a significant amount of intentional deception on the part of Han and Leia. I really don't think they wouldn't recognize their own child. Too many coincidences for my liking. I think it's more likely that she's Ben's cousin, though I would be fine if she just happens to be "Random Force User Kid 27" or whatever, and actually has no genetic ties to the Skywalkers. But I just can't see them spearheading a new trilogy of movies and not having a Skywalker at the helm.

Since we're spitballing here ...

What if Rey and Ben are siblings?

I really hope that they don't go that direction. If they do they may as well but the reset button and bring back legends at that point.

Considering most theories have them to be cousins, it's not that big of a stretch. I've heard people state theories that they are siblings, but I doubt it, simply because it would require a significant amount of intentional deception on the part of Han and Leia. I really don't think they wouldn't recognize their own child. Too many coincidences for my liking. I think it's more likely that she's Ben's cousin, though I would be fine if she just happens to be "Random Force User Kid 27" or whatever, and actually has no genetic ties to the Skywalkers. But I just can't see them spearheading a new trilogy of movies and not having a Skywalker at the helm.

Can't remember exactly where but someone did sat the main Star Wars films (i.e. all Episode Whatevers) are the saga of the Skywalker Fam and their royally screwing up the galaxy, with the anthology films being the equivalent of Lost Stars, showing how sucky it is for normal people to be caught up in the Skywalker Family Drama.

I'd personally feel very disappointed if Rey wasn't a descendant of Anakin/Shimi, mainly because it means that an unrelated person has to come in and sort out the messes of Anakin, Luke & Ben.

I want to say it was Kathleen Kennedy that made that comment about the core Star Wars films being about the Skywalker Famliy Legacy/Drama.

While I was (and kinda still am) a proponent of "Rey = Luke's Daughter," what we're seeing in regards to the timeline just doesn't make that seem possible. Unless Luke and Rey's mother had a serious falling out, with mom taking the kid and dropping her off on Jakku "for just a little while" before vanishing from the galaxy. It'd make Luke an absentee father (not great), but if it was a situation where he didn't know that Rey had been dropped off before mom vanished/dead in such a way that Luke was convinced that mother and daughter had perished together.

Then again, we do have Kylo Ren, who is a Skywalker and his struggle between light and dark would certainly live up to the tradition of Skywalker Family Drama.

I want to say it was Kathleen Kennedy that made that comment about the core Star Wars films being about the Skywalker Famliy Legacy/Drama.

While I was (and kinda still am) a proponent of "Rey = Luke's Daughter," what we're seeing in regards to the timeline just doesn't make that seem possible. Unless Luke and Rey's mother had a serious falling out, with mom taking the kid and dropping her off on Jakku "for just a little while" before vanishing from the galaxy. It'd make Luke an absentee father (not great), but if it was a situation where he didn't know that Rey had been dropped off before mom vanished/dead in such a way that Luke was convinced that mother and daughter had perished together.

Then again, we do have Kylo Ren, who is a Skywalker and his struggle between light and dark would certainly live up to the tradition of Skywalker Family Drama.

I suspect that Rey's mother, Luke's wife, will be dead. Either in childbirth, or perhaps during the purge of Ren, or perhaps just later in life. She got sick, they couldn't heal her because they were living out in Space Boonies, and she died. Or, when Luke likely dies in Ep 8, he will pull a "There is...a...nother....Sky...walk....er" line like Yoda, but instead it will be "Your...mo...ther is....still...a...live...bleh" And that will galvanize her continued quest into Ep. 9.

I want to say it was Kathleen Kennedy that made that comment about the core Star Wars films being about the Skywalker Famliy Legacy/Drama.

While I was (and kinda still am) a proponent of "Rey = Luke's Daughter," what we're seeing in regards to the timeline just doesn't make that seem possible. Unless Luke and Rey's mother had a serious falling out, with mom taking the kid and dropping her off on Jakku "for just a little while" before vanishing from the galaxy. It'd make Luke an absentee father (not great), but if it was a situation where he didn't know that Rey had been dropped off before mom vanished/dead in such a way that Luke was convinced that mother and daughter had perished together.

Then again, we do have Kylo Ren, who is a Skywalker and his struggle between light and dark would certainly live up to the tradition of Skywalker Family Drama.

I suspect that Rey's mother, Luke's wife, will be dead. Either in childbirth, or perhaps during the purge of Ren, or perhaps just later in life. She got sick, they couldn't heal her because they were living out in Space Boonies, and she died. Or, when Luke likely dies in Ep 8, he will pull a "There is...a...nother....Sky...walk....er" line like Yoda, but instead it will be "Your...mo...ther is....still...a...live...bleh" And that will galvanize her continued quest into Ep. 9.

Still holding out for Sigourney Weaver as Mara Jade who had to go deep undercover in the First Order using her old Emperor's Hand identity and is working from within to disable them...

I mean, let's face it, she's age-appropriate for Hamill and you would also totally be able to believe she was and still is one of the bigger badasses of the Star Wars universe.

(Also, she does have a surprisingly similar jawline to Daisy Ridley. I can live in hope, OK?)

I want to say it was Kathleen Kennedy that made that comment about the core Star Wars films being about the Skywalker Famliy Legacy/Drama.

While I was (and kinda still am) a proponent of "Rey = Luke's Daughter," what we're seeing in regards to the timeline just doesn't make that seem possible. Unless Luke and Rey's mother had a serious falling out, with mom taking the kid and dropping her off on Jakku "for just a little while" before vanishing from the galaxy. It'd make Luke an absentee father (not great), but if it was a situation where he didn't know that Rey had been dropped off before mom vanished/dead in such a way that Luke was convinced that mother and daughter had perished together.

Then again, we do have Kylo Ren, who is a Skywalker and his struggle between light and dark would certainly live up to the tradition of Skywalker Family Drama.

I suspect that Rey's mother, Luke's wife, will be dead. Either in childbirth, or perhaps during the purge of Ren, or perhaps just later in life. She got sick, they couldn't heal her because they were living out in Space Boonies, and she died. Or, when Luke likely dies in Ep 8, he will pull a "There is...a...nother....Sky...walk....er" line like Yoda, but instead it will be "Your...mo...ther is....still...a...live...bleh" And that will galvanize her continued quest into Ep. 9.

Still holding out for Sigourney Weaver as Mara Jade who had to go deep undercover in the First Order using her old Emperor's Hand identity and is working from within to disable them...

I mean, let's face it, she's age-appropriate for Hamill and you would also totally be able to believe she was and still is one of the bigger badasses of the Star Wars universe.

(Also, she does have a surprisingly similar jawline to Daisy Ridley. I can live in hope, OK?)

I'm totally on board for Sigourney Weaver in any movie, given my personal attraction to that woman from an early age. So having one of my earliest fantasy women hooking up with one of my earliest personal power fantasy heroes....yeah I'm totally down for that. Plus she's a **** good actress, so she'd be good for the role.