Somewhere (not sure if a developer question, or Order 66) they asked about mounting ships and vehicles externally, and the answer was to keep it narrative.

Which totally makes sense, I mean you buy minimum 25 thousand credits for that attachment, that is sometimes 25% of the price of the whole ship, you bet that you can get huge and custom modifications for that price. Changing the hull form in significant ways should be an option to integrate those attachments, but players will not always want this. And as we are talking about modifications and customization for ship keeping it narrative is the best advice you can give for something like this.

Right, but the hanger isn't required for carrying craft, you can do that with external clamps, which are a simple narrative option distinct from the Retrofitted Hanger Bay Attachment. External Clamps aren't an attachment, they are just a called out handwave narrative option that allows you to bypass the Attachment mess if your carrier is too small, the fighter count too small, or the attachment is just otherwise in appropriate. Not everyone knows about them though because they are only mentioned once in a breakout box in EotE core, and then never again. So if you only skimmed it, or don't have it, you don't know about it.

So things like the Gozanti carrying 4 TIEs, or a few Walkers can be narratived with docking clamps, no need for attachments or credits. Just boom, done.

On a related topic I suspect that the VCX-100 being statted at Sil 5 had a lot to do with this same issue.

Somewhere (not sure if a developer question, or Order 66) they asked about mounting ships and vehicles externally, and the answer was to keep it narrative.

Which totally makes sense, I mean you buy minimum 25 thousand credits for that attachment, that is sometimes 25% of the price of the whole ship, you bet that you can get huge and custom modifications for that price. Changing the hull form in significant ways should be an option to integrate those attachments, but players will not always want this. And as we are talking about modifications and customization for ship keeping it narrative is the best advice you can give for something like this.

Right, but the hanger isn't required for carrying craft, you can do that with external clamps, which are a simple narrative option distinct from the Retrofitted Hanger Bay Attachment. External Clamps aren't an attachment, they are just a called out handwave narrative option that allows you to bypass the Attachment mess if your carrier is too small, the fighter count too small, or the attachment is just otherwise in appropriate. Not everyone knows about them though because they are only mentioned once in a breakout box in EotE core, and then never again. So if you only skimmed it, or don't have it, you don't know about it.

So things like the Gozanti carrying 4 TIEs, or a few Walkers can be narratived with docking clamps, no need for attachments or credits. Just boom, done.

On a related topic I suspect that the VCX-100 being statted at Sil 5 had a lot to do with this same issue.

If you have the X-Wing minis at 1:270 scale, and put an Silhoutte 3 A-Wing aside to an Sil 4 YT-2400 and a Sil 4 YT-1300, a Gozanti and VCX-100 than you might decide as well VCX-100 is indeed Silhoutte 5. In X-Wing mini the Gozani and the VCX-100 are in different ship categories, but it is really a close call and the Ghost is indeed so big and heavy that it the standard mounts for large ships like the Falcon do not cut it anymore. In AoR they have gameplay reason to put the VCX in a smaller category.

Somewhere (not sure if a developer question, or Order 66) they asked about mounting ships and vehicles externally, and the answer was to keep it narrative.

Which totally makes sense, I mean you buy minimum 25 thousand credits for that attachment, that is sometimes 25% of the price of the whole ship, you bet that you can get huge and custom modifications for that price. Changing the hull form in significant ways should be an option to integrate those attachments, but players will not always want this. And as we are talking about modifications and customization for ship keeping it narrative is the best advice you can give for something like this.

Right, but the hanger isn't required for carrying craft, you can do that with external clamps, which are a simple narrative option distinct from the Retrofitted Hanger Bay Attachment. External Clamps aren't an attachment, they are just a called out handwave narrative option that allows you to bypass the Attachment mess if your carrier is too small, the fighter count too small, or the attachment is just otherwise in appropriate. Not everyone knows about them though because they are only mentioned once in a breakout box in EotE core, and then never again. So if you only skimmed it, or don't have it, you don't know about it.

So things like the Gozanti carrying 4 TIEs, or a few Walkers can be narratived with docking clamps, no need for attachments or credits. Just boom, done.

On a related topic I suspect that the VCX-100 being statted at Sil 5 had a lot to do with this same issue.

If you have the X-Wing minis at 1:270 scale, and put an Silhoutte 3 A-Wing aside to an Sil 4 YT-2400 and a Sil 4 YT-1300, a Gozanti and VCX-100 than you might decide as well VCX-100 is indeed Silhoutte 5. In X-Wing mini the Gozani and the VCX-100 are in different ship categories, but it is really a close call and the Ghost is indeed so big and heavy that it the standard mounts for large ships like the Falcon do not cut it anymore. In AoR they have gameplay reason to put the VCX in a smaller category.

However Sil isn't merely a measurement of size. That has a lot to do with Sil, but that's not the only thing, it is also a matter of the maneuverability and capability of a craft to use it's engines and speed. So a big ship that can turn on a dime might be an upper end Sil 4, allowing you to take multiple pilot only maneuvers per turn and perform actions like GTA. Likewise a smaller craft that has the maneuverability of a pregnant morbidly obese bantha might be permanently stuck on the low end of the Sil 5 category leaving you stuck making the best of one maneuver and never being able to take evasive action ever.

It doesn't really matter though, FFG decided it's Sil 5... Perhaps it was just a call made before the show really picked up and they went off size alone. Perhaps it was a bad call because someone got obsessed with the retrofitted bay attachment and forgot, or didn't know about, the docking clamps. Perhaps the ship is actually future-proofed and there's some attachment or something yet to be published that will allow it to fly like a Sil 4 ship...but... it's Sil 5 in the book and that's probably not changing.

It isn't so much that the VCX-100 and Gozanti are Silhouette 5 that bothers me, it's that the CR 90 is also Silhouette 5. Additionally, in terms of stats the Gozanti is as good, or even a little better than a CR 90. The CR 90 has the edge in speed and a clear advantage in firepower, but the two are statted much closer than I like, and for some reason that just grinds my gears.

It isn't so much that the VCX-100 and Gozanti are Silhouette 5 that bothers me, it's that the CR 90 is also Silhouette 5. Additionally, in terms of stats the Gozanti is as good, or even a little better than a CR 90. The CR 90 has the edge in speed and a clear advantage in firepower, but the two are statted much closer than I like, and for some reason that just grinds my gears.

Where the Gozanti really suffers is in Consumables. It can't operate for very long without support (unlike the CR90), and there is currently no way increase the Consumables rating in the rules. If Consumables never come up in your game, then the Gozanti probably appears more capable than it really should be.

I wonder if it has to do with the roles of the two ships. The Gozanti (or the Legends description of it) indicates that it's an anti-pirate vessel, while the CR90 is a multi-purpose corvette with a focus on speed.

What makes absolutely no sense to me is the absurdly low the price tag on the Gozanti in comparison with all similar ships. It looks slightly expensive for a Silhouette 4, but vastly under priced for a Silhouette 5.

What makes absolutely no sense to me is the absurdly low the price tag on the Gozanti in comparison with all similar ships. It looks slightly expensive for a Silhouette 4, but vastly under priced for a Silhouette 5.

The VCX-100 is less expensive than the Gozanti. And the CR-90 from Beyond the Rim is just 700,000 credits. Loses a lot of crew, soldiers and and encumbrance for that. Deju vu? Have I mention this somewhere already? Overlooking something about that Blockage Bandit?