Both of my questions fall under relatively specific circumstances.

First in a skirmish a few days back, my opponent killed the last figure in a group of hired guns. I was just messing around because I thought I had already lost, anyway I used hired guns' parting shot, and managed to kill his RGC (big miracle right!), any way this put us in the tricky spot of both being over 40. Who wins... the way I read parting shot says that it's not defeated until after the parting shot, and so far as I know he wouldn't score the points until it was defeated, which would be AFTER it killed RGC, and after I had the 40 points. Who wins this?

Second is in regard to Verena Talos' skirmish card, If I use the command card parting blow to interrupt and attack, then spend a surge for the fighting knife, do I get the second attack or will parting blow stun her first? I kind of figure that since you're buying the fighting knife during the attack that it might be part of resolving the original attack, but I also understand if it's treated as entirely separate

By the timing of things, if the Parting Shot brings you to 40VP, the mission ends immediately, before the Hired Gun is defeated.

The other one I don't consider myself familiar enough with skirmish to answer.

For Verena: Once you resolve the attack granted by Parting Blow, you become stunned. This would prevent you from attacking again.

However, reading Fighting Knife, it states "this attack", and has ╔►Close Quarters above it which is an attack. Is it possible that the surge ability is only usable with ╔►Close Quarters ? Close Quarters can only be used while adjacent, and she is using the enemy's attack type and dice.

Perhaps I am reading too much into "this attack"? Going to look at some other cards later tonight.

No, I think he means the hired guns special ability. And yes, I would interpret it as you got to 40 pts first and the game ends. YOU WIN!

Yes, and I think you're stunned first.

I agree with the above posters regarding the Hired Guns.

As for Verena. I think "this attack" refers to the attack during which that surge ability was triggered.

If it was intended to be used only with close quarters then it would say something like "during this attack you gain :surge: Fighting Knife"

Or it would be written similar to Boba Fett's Battle Discipline.

So you attack... roll a surge, spend it on Fighting Knife, resolve the initial attack including damage and any other effects, become stunned... and now can't do the Knife attack since you're stunned.

Alright, I heard back from them today, here's what I got:

You would be able to resolve “Fighting Knife” before becoming Stunned from “Parting Blow."

Thanks!

Paul Winchester

I think it's in line with the timing conflict rule: the attacker decides in which order to resolve their "after the attack resolves" effects. The "Then, " part or Parting Blow may even be later than "after the attack resolves", because I would expect Blast and Cleave and Conditions to happen before it.

It's weird because Verena is effectively stunning herself completely independent of her attack. Strange that the Stun in this case is applied after the fighting knife, since, technically the attack resolved and the surge grants another attack. Conditions are considered mission rules for the purposes of timing conflicts, but in the case, the condition doesn't exist quite yet.

This doesn't ruling does not sit right with me. I wish Paul would have extrapolated on the *why* of this. If it is because both the "after the attack resolves" and the Fighting Knife and Stun are both attacker effects, and the attacker chooses (which he does), then this would kinda make sense.

If it is because both the "after the attack resolves" and the Fighting Knife and Stun are both attacker effects, and the attacker chooses (which he does), then this would kinda make sense.

That sounds right - effects from command cards and effects from deployment cards are on the same priority level right?

That sounds right - effects from command cards and effects from deployment cards are on the same priority level right?