Episode VIII new "old" starfighter (spoilers)

By melminiatures, in X-Wing

The new A-Wing. Because apparently after Palpatine died, they just kept re-doing every ship with slight changes in design.

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Significantly updated. Significantly...smaller? A lot of lumps and holes where they did not formerly exist.

It reminds me of a cross between an A-wing and a V-wing.

Looks more like an updated Jedi starfighter to me

Umm. ??? It's like deja vu.

It doesn't need to be to scale even if they are copying the old A Wing. That spot behind the cockpit and the smaller fins won't matter, camera angles can fix that (and if not they can fix it after film).

The pic with Chewie makes it look really narrow too.

definitely looks like a cross between jedi starfighter and A-wing.

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Maybe it's the nu canon R-22. The gun looks like the original design from the production art for Jedi.

definitely looks like a cross between jedi starfighter and A-wing, and it's definitely tiny. Like, really really tiny.

Doesn't look any smaller than previous A-wings

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definitely looks like a cross between jedi starfighter and A-wing, and it's definitely tiny. Like, really really tiny.

The A-wing was basically a post-war Delta-7 anyway.

Indeed.

It reminds me of a cross between an A-wing and a V-wing.

That's cool a guess... I'd rather have new original designs though.

I'd rather have any of the prequel ships anyday.

Even the shiny as all fk Nabooian thingie.

The new A-Wing. Because apparently after Palpatine died, they just kept re-doing every ship with slight changes in design.

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One world war and several African Palpatines later plus a Coelocanth airlift... I give the South African Air Force Dakota. Still flying.

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The good old Viper has lived through the original Battlestar Galactica and its remake.

During the Clone Wars, the Old Republic basically bankrupted itself developing new fighters (and starfighters have been around for ~20 000 years so this is not WWII where aircraft design is growing). The only fighters the Rebels had that was "theirs" was the X-Wing (according to EU, because they got handed the blueprints for free) and the B-Wing. Everything else was bought off the shelf, begged, borrowed or stolen. The Resistance is even smaller than The Rebellion.

That's cool a guess... I'd rather have new original designs though.

For the purposes of both the game and the film on its own, yeah.

Except that the new designs from TFA were pretty much universally boxy and boring (or minor updates to OT designs, or both), so :(

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One world war and several African Palpatines later plus a Coelocanth airlift... I give the South African Air Force Dakota. Still flying.

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The good old Viper has lived through the original Battlestar Galactica and its remake.

During the Clone Wars, the Old Republic basically bankrupted itself developing new fighters (and starfighters have been around for ~20 000 years so this is not WWII where aircraft design is growing). The only fighters the Rebels had that was "theirs" was the X-Wing (according to EU, because they got handed the blueprints for free) and the B-Wing. Everything else was bought off the shelf, begged, borrowed or stolen. The Resistance is even smaller than The Rebellion.

A better comparison might be that the Clone Wars was Korea/Vietnam and the period after was similar to the rest of the Cold War. New technologies matured during the Cone Wars, and then during the period afterward numerous ideas were refined based on a theoretical equally powerful enemy force. As an example, most modern fighter jets look largely similar compared to the 60s, when you could easily differentiate between top of the line American and Russian aircraft.

In The Force Awakens, we see that both sides have marginally improved existing designs to maximize efficiency, but they haven't yet completely abandoned the existing design principles of their best starfighters. The First Order has taken the durability issues of a solid design platform and filled them in with the TIE/fo, and the T-70 addresses the maneuver issues that old T-65s had in dogfights. It stands to reason that a newer variation of the A-Wing would keep the slender profile and massive engines to focus on a weakness, perhaps the substandard primary armament?

We haven't seen a 6th Generation equivalent fighter for either side yet. If we did, it would probably be a replacement for something like the B-Wing or the TIE Defender, ships meant to redefine a battlefield role on both sides.

T.I.E. Fighter

TIE Fighter

TIE/ln

TIE/fo

TIE/sf

I guess we haven't seen the sixth generation TIE yet.

T.I.E. Fighter

TIE Fighter

TIE/ln

TIE/fo

TIE/sf

I guess we haven't seen the sixth generation TIE yet.

Well, the TIE/fo is like the jump from the MIG-21 Fishbed to the MIG-29 Fulcrum. The core role hasn't changed, but it incorporates newer technology and accounts for improvements in enemy fighter designs.

A 6th Generation Fighter would be something like the F-22 Raptor or the F-35 Lightning, new fighters incorporating new capabilities and designed to expand combat roles beyond the limits of previous systems.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

In war, everyone is actively trying to break the enemy equipment and kill their soldiers. If you don't try to fix it in advance, pretty soon you're fielding horses against tanks like the Polish during the blitz.