Regionals: Coming soon to a store near you...sorta

By Kerg12, in Star Wars: Armada

Well regionals are underway and hopefully everyone is able to attend or play somewhere near them and good luck to everyone who is going to be playing!

My regionals doesn't start till Saturday day and I need some help picking a list...not sure if I should go with this: armadawarlords.hivelabs.solutions/view_list.php?token=23876

or armadawarlords.hivelabs.solutions/view_list.php?token=23877 or my fleet i just put together yesterday and actually did well http://armadawarlords.hivelabs.solutions/view_list.php?token=23879

Anything to help me improve on these fleets would be much appreciated. Once again good luck to all those going to regionals!

Edited by Kerg12

First of all this probably should be in the fleet review sub-forum.

Secondly, I'd go with fleet #2, although that Nebulon-B Escort needs Yavaris more than you need a 7 point bid. Rieekan is fine with going second in my experience.

First of all this probably should be in the fleet review sub-forum.

Secondly, I'd go with fleet #2, although that Nebulon-B Escort needs Yavaris more than you need a 7 point bid. Rieekan is fine with going second in my experience.

Yea i know this should be in there, but it always seems to be a hit or miss with feedback at least on the main forum more will see this therefore getting more feedback hopefully

Yea i know this should be in there, but it always seems to be a hit or miss with feedback at least on the main forum more will see this therefore getting more feedback hopefully

But if everyone with a fleet list that wanted critiques did what you did, the main forum would be glutted with fleet review posts; this would be to the overall detriment of all of us except those who delight in critiquing fleets and don't need to make the extra click over to the correct sub-forum.

I'd say this is a...."excited for regionals..... Btw which list?" Thread.

Which regionals are you attending?

I'd say this is a...."excited for regionals..... Btw which list?" Thread.

Which regionals are you attending?

My regionals is in southern california at the Gameology store.

Yea i know this should be in there, but it always seems to be a hit or miss with feedback at least on the main forum more will see this therefore getting more feedback hopefully

But if everyone with a fleet list that wanted critiques did what you did, the main forum would be glutted with fleet review posts; this would be to the overall detriment of all of us except those who delight in critiquing fleets and don't need to make the extra click over to the correct sub-forum.

The deed is done, sorry for posting on the main forum seesh

Yea i know this should be in there, but it always seems to be a hit or miss with feedback at least on the main forum more will see this therefore getting more feedback hopefully

But if everyone with a fleet list that wanted critiques did what you did, the main forum would be glutted with fleet review posts; this would be to the overall detriment of all of us except those who delight in critiquing fleets and don't need to make the extra click over to the correct sub-forum.

Darn you, Kant!

Yea i know this should be in there, but it always seems to be a hit or miss with feedback at least on the main forum more will see this therefore getting more feedback hopefully

But if everyone with a fleet list that wanted critiques did what you did, the main forum would be glutted with fleet review posts; this would be to the overall detriment of all of us except those who delight in critiquing fleets and don't need to make the extra click over to the correct sub-forum.

Darn you, Kant!

Hey, I'll happily be compared to Immanuel Kant if it's being offered ;).

If I was to compare it to a philosophical concept, I think I might prefer the Tragedy of the Commons. Every individual benefits from breaking the rules and making the shared resource (the forum) slightly less pleasant, but should enough of us do so the net result is worse for all of us and therefore some kind of enforcing agent is required to ensure everyone doesn't overdraw. Maybe a Prisoner's Dilemma, where everyone has a rational interest in not trusting others even if the end group result is worse?

With that said, though, I've pretty much said what I intended to here. I'm also the only respondent so far who actually helped with list criticism so far, despite my griping about this being in the wrong sub-forum!

Yea i know this should be in there, but it always seems to be a hit or miss with feedback at least on the main forum more will see this therefore getting more feedback hopefully

But if everyone with a fleet list that wanted critiques did what you did, the main forum would be glutted with fleet review posts; this would be to the overall detriment of all of us except those who delight in critiquing fleets and don't need to make the extra click over to the correct sub-forum.

Darn you, Kant!

Hey, I'll happily be compared to Immanuel Kant if it's being offered ;).

If I was to compare it to a philosophical concept, I think I might prefer the Tragedy of the Commons. Every individual benefits from breaking the rules and making the shared resource (the forum) slightly less pleasant, but should enough of us do so the net result is worse for all of us and therefore some kind of enforcing agent is required to ensure everyone doesn't overdraw. Maybe a Prisoner's Dilemma, where everyone has a rational interest in not trusting others even if the end group result is worse?

With that said, though, I've pretty much said what I intended to here. I'm also the only respondent so far who actually helped with list criticism so far, despite my griping about this being in the wrong sub-forum!

Well to sub-forum then...

I've always hated the "tragedy of the commons" as a philosophical concept, since is based on a flawed (and deliberately biased) perception of the use of the commons in 18th and 19th Century Britain.

The reality was that the commons were not abused, and were well utilised by the poorer members of the community. The rich wanted to be richer, so invented "the tragedy of the commons" so they could enclose and destroy this communal property.

That said, put your blasted fleet post in the right sub-forum! Sheesh!

I've always hated the "tragedy of the commons" as a philosophical concept, since is based on a flawed (and deliberately biased) perception of the use of the commons in 18th and 19th Century Britain.

The reality was that the commons were not abused, and were well utilised by the poorer members of the community. The rich wanted to be richer, so invented "the tragedy of the commons" so they could enclose and destroy this communal property.

Is that because those who used the commons engaged in social controls when anyone transgressed against the norms that kept the commons healthy?

...just like Snipafist did?

the list subforum is lame. I'd only post there if it was changed to a strat forum where people with insight actually visited.

I've always hated the "tragedy of the commons" as a philosophical concept, since is based on a flawed (and deliberately biased) perception of the use of the commons in 18th and 19th Century Britain.

The reality was that the commons were not abused, and were well utilised by the poorer members of the community. The rich wanted to be richer, so invented "the tragedy of the commons" so they could enclose and destroy this communal property.

Conversely, it is usually the rich who benefit from communal property the most, such as in deep sea fishing, air pollution, ground water, etc. It is those who have the greatest appetites (or capacity for utilization) that generate the highest social spillovers.

Ignoring the rational human response to overuse communal property almost always leads to tragedy. Humanity invented the tragedy of the commons, regardless of who named it. I'm also not sure I would deem Lloyd as "rich." Upper middle class maybe.

Kerg, I like the Rieekan list best. For tweaks, I would suggest moving Rieekan to Jaina's Light or Tantive as that carrier AFMKII is gonna get focused so hard. You don't want Rieekan to die first so you can benefit from his ability, and putting him on a zippy ship ensures you can avoid engagement when necessary. Also, with Rieekan DO NOT RUN SUPERIOR POSITIONS. Your zombie ships could get plinked for points if there are no other viable shots. Percision Strike is equally as terrible. I would suggest Intel Sweep.

Don't listen to these guys; give some love for SoCal! We need more representation on this forum. SoCal isn't like other places where people do things like stay indoors. It doesn't snow here. It doesn't rain here. There aren't roofs on the malls! In SoCal everyone is thin, they're outside, and they're stupid happy about it. And I can't stand it. Come inside out of the sun, stop smiling, and play Armada with me! ;)

Thank you. If you can't tell I'm obviously not from SoCal originally. I'm from Houston and in Houston you only go outside long enough to walk to your car and then from your car into the restaurant.

In any event, I am going to Gameology this Saturday for the Regional. I will be the person carrying the shoe box. Best of luck.

Edited by WhatsArmadaWithYou

Hey, I'll happily be compared to Immanuel Kant if it's being offered ;).

If I was to compare it to a philosophical concept, I think I might prefer the Tragedy of the Commons. Every individual benefits from breaking the rules and making the shared resource (the forum) slightly less pleasant, but should enough of us do so the net result is worse for all of us and therefore some kind of enforcing agent is required to ensure everyone doesn't overdraw. Maybe a Prisoner's Dilemma, where everyone has a rational interest in not trusting others even if the end group result is worse?

With that said, though, I've pretty much said what I intended to here. I'm also the only respondent so far who actually helped with list criticism so far, despite my griping about this being in the wrong sub-forum!

Wouldn't the Tragedy of the Commons just be a specific example of why the categorical imperative is "good"?