One of the podcasts had a host mention a case where there was a store championship that had a player win, but announce they would not be able to attend a Regional. The Regional Bye card was then given to another player that didn't win the event.

Is that how it's supposed to be done? I only ask because I was in a similar situation, but it was decided that it wasn't within the scope of the rules for the bye to be passed down (unless first place already had a bye). I doubt anything could be done about it now, but it would be helpful to know about in the future. Thanks!

Is there a big database out there saying who has all of the byes already given out that is easily accessible? If not what is the difference between handing the bye down because the first person who'd get it already has one or they aren't going to be attending anyway?

When passing the bye down it should be offered in order of standings.

Is there a big database out there saying who has all of the byes already given out that is easily accessible? If not what is the difference between handing the bye down because the first person who'd get it already has one or they aren't going to be attending anyway?

When passing the bye down it should be offered in order of standings.

Any event that runs SC or higher should report who the winner was to FFG. It comes in the instructions with the kit.

With that said, if 1st place doesn't want the bye then it goes to 2nd,etc until someone wants it but doesn't have 1. There is no mention of only moving down if 1st has one. My son won last year and we knew we weren't going to the regional so the bye was given to the 2nd place player.

If you won a bye, and do not intend on going or already had one from a previous event, it would be good sportsmanship to pass it on to the next player in the tournament

Not to do so would be a pretty big ****** bag in my opinion

I have a bye, and I already told the next guy if something happens and I can't make it to the regional I'll send the bye to him.

If someone decides to keep it in order to try to profit or for whatever reasons, they would deserve a slap imo

Imo something could still be done, If I was in second place and first place didn't intend on going, I'd request for him to make the decent choice and pass it off to second, or third if I wasn't intending on going etc.

If he refused I'd make it aware to the community how selfish this guy is, and likely hand out that deserved slap lol

(what can I say I hate **** heads and believe **** heads need a good punch in the nose. Hell even I deserved it at one time and I got it, which I totally agreed with after the fact lol and no wasn't related to xwing but other personal matters lol)

Is there a big database out there saying who has all of the byes already given out that is easily accessible? If not what is the difference between handing the bye down because the first person who'd get it already has one or they aren't going to be attending anyway?

When passing the bye down it should be offered in order of standings.

Any event that runs SC or higher should report who the winner was to FFG. It comes in the instructions with the kit.

With that said, if 1st place doesn't want the bye then it goes to 2nd,etc until someone wants it but doesn't have 1. There is no mention of only moving down if 1st has one. My son won last year and we knew we weren't going to the regional so the bye was given to the 2nd place player.

I'm aware that they get reported but that doesn't mean the information is easy to get coming the other way.

Unless I'm mistaken unless you are the one who gets it you can't just pick one up later and have it be any good. This is to say that when you win you either take it or you do not; there is no "give it away later" and certainly not any "sell it to the highest bidder" bull.

Well I have a bye and so does my friend from two store championship

On the back of the card our names are not printed on it

Also last year I had a bye and I don't recall anything showing or stating they knew who I was.

I was just some guy with a bye card

I don't think they are that strict on them as some say.

As far as I'm aware the TO of last year regional didn't do any check to make sure those with byes matched any data base or records

Is there a big database out there saying who has all of the byes already given out that is easily accessible? If not what is the difference between handing the bye down because the first person who'd get it already has one or they aren't going to be attending anyway?

When passing the bye down it should be offered in order of standings.

Any event that runs SC or higher should report who the winner was to FFG. It comes in the instructions with the kit.

With that said, if 1st place doesn't want the bye then it goes to 2nd,etc until someone wants it but doesn't have 1. There is no mention of only moving down if 1st has one. My son won last year and we knew we weren't going to the regional so the bye was given to the 2nd place player.

I'm aware that they get reported but that doesn't mean the information is easy to get coming the other way.

Unless I'm mistaken unless you are the one who gets it you can't just pick one up later and have it be any good. This is to say that when you win you either take it or you do not; there is no "give it away later" and certainly not any "sell it to the highest bidder" bull.

Yes you cannot sell it or transfer it and that is why they record names. Also that makes sure that each SC winner only has a single bye.

There was a guy who actually won a store championship here in Atlanta at a place that won't be named for now.

The store owner refused (yes, refused) to give him the bye card unless he could prove he was going to regionals. This was before regionals had even been announced.

This store owner also deliberately lied to people calling to ask about registering for the store championship to prevent non-regulars from attending. (Didn't fully work as a small group including the guy who won were not regulars managed to attend).

The store owner then gave the bye to someone else several weeks later.

And yes, FFG was notified that the winner of the SC was not given the bye.

There was a guy who actually won a store championship here in Atlanta at a place that won't be named for now.

The store owner refused (yes, refused) to give him the bye card unless he could prove he was going to regionals. This was before regionals had even been announced.

This store owner also deliberately lied to people calling to ask about registering for the store championship to prevent non-regulars from attending. (Didn't fully work as a small group including the guy who won were not regulars managed to attend).

The store owner then gave the bye to someone else several weeks later.

And yes, FFG was notified that the winner of the SC was not given the bye.

I'd lose my **** if I was the guy who won, and was treated that way.

I hope the store owner got something nasty in return for treating someone that way

So correct me if I'm wrong, but are people saying that if I decide I cannot go to the regional this year, I cannot give my bye to the next runner up?

That doesn't seem to make sense.

Since our store championship was held before any regional was announced it would be impossible for any winner to know if they'd be able to attend since you don't know the date or location.

Seems a little much for a game with plastic ships.

Has anyone ever heard or have any evidence of someone showing up with a bye (being passed down due to winner not going or already has one) and then told their bye in invalid?

I've never seen or heard anything like that, and surely it would have happened by now if what people say is true about the bye being non transferable.

Either way, doesn't matter, I'll still send my bye to the next runner up from our tournament if it don't go.

I truly don't think they are that strict to say you cannot use it

I mean I've heard of lots of people winning multiple championship and having a runner up get the bye, and to my knowledge have never heard of anyones bye being invalid

There was a guy who actually won a store championship here in Atlanta at a place that won't be named for now.

The store owner refused (yes, refused) to give him the bye card unless he could prove he was going to regionals. This was before regionals had even been announced.

This store owner also deliberately lied to people calling to ask about registering for the store championship to prevent non-regulars from attending. (Didn't fully work as a small group including the guy who won were not regulars managed to attend).

The store owner then gave the bye to someone else several weeks later.

And yes, FFG was notified that the winner of the SC was not given the bye.

I seem to remember hearing about that. I'd "like" the post except that I HATE the post; you know what I mean.

The byes should be non-transferable. While the nice thing to do when you know you aren't going to use them would be to pass them down you shouldn't feel compelled to if you don't know what your status would be about Regionals.

I could also say there is nothing wrong with hording byes either even if you can't use them all. After all, with all of this talk about people going to tournament to "play meaningful games" I can't think of anything worse than just skipping out of the first round with a free win; unless of course you want to win the tournament and aren't doing it just to play.

The byes are meant to be non-transferable. There is no ability to pass one on except to drop from the event and not win one, or if you've already won one it will go to second place. The rules along with the kits do not provide any ability for a player, for whatever the reason, to just pass the bye on to someone else.

TO of the Atlanta regional checking in here. The aforementioned bye card showed up, and was confiscated. I'm aware I probably don't have the right to do that. FFG OP is free to call me. I'll tell them exactly what store it came from, and put them in touch with the folks who quit the game over how that store treated them.

i'm in the same situation, my friend finished 1st and i finished 2nd at an SC and now that the Regionals are announced he can't attend, so i contacted FFG , who knows maybe the ppl who finished 2nd can use them.

I have another question

The bye I received does not have my name on the back.

Now I haven't asked if the TO did report the championship that I won to ffg.

Should that be of a concern?

I have to travel out of province and I'll be super pissed if for some reason my bye was not accepted

Like I said before, last year I don't recall any sort of clarification on byes being legit or whatever you want to call it.

I just gave him my bye and that was that

( then Again come to think of it, it was the same TO at the regional as it was at the championship that I won it at)

TO of the Atlanta regional checking in here. The aforementioned bye card showed up, and was confiscated. I'm aware I probably don't have the right to do that. FFG OP is free to call me. I'll tell them exactly what store it came from, and put them in touch with the folks who quit the game over how that store treated them.

Good on you sir. Good on you.

TO of the Atlanta regional checking in here. The aforementioned bye card showed up, and was confiscated. I'm aware I probably don't have the right to do that. FFG OP is free to call me. I'll tell them exactly what store it came from, and put them in touch with the folks who quit the game over how that store treated them.

You still ran an awesome regional.

TO of the Atlanta regional checking in here. The aforementioned bye card showed up, and was confiscated. I'm aware I probably don't have the right to do that. FFG OP is free to call me. I'll tell them exactly what store it came from, and put them in touch with the folks who quit the game over how that store treated them.

You have every right to do that, knowing the circumstances of how it was not awarded to the SC winner as intended.

What is the player going to do complain to FFG? That they had a bye they didn't win illegally given to them by a store they presumably frequent. Yeah, I doubt the player is going to want to draw attention to that.

As for passing byes off.....

Honestly, I'd probably do that if I ever won one (Hah! I'm decent, but not that good.)

I don't want a bye, just like I don't want an ID. I want to play.

And I somewhat regret dropping on Saturday, but after going 0-3 and realizing how badly I was flying and all the mistakes I made in my third game....I knew that I was just too tired (lack of sleep) to fly well and enjoy it. I still got 3 good games in, and woke up 6 hours later to catch some on the twitch feed.

Just don't use the bye. That's an option available to you. Passing it off isn't.

Just don't use the bye. That's an option available to you. Passing it off isn't.

Yeah...just hate to waste it. Could always say I already won one

But it's a moot point, probably never gonna get one anyay