Nope. Nothing against Soccer or Hunting either. Guns maybe, but not hunting.

I think a "'MERICA!" is appropriate here. =)

And we shouldn't have to have arguments over guns either.... 2nd Amendment is very clear.

That out of the way (and lets not derail this and get into a silly argument about it), I don't think I've ever heard of, or seen these people down here in Georgia, but they certainly sound very silly.

Literally zero problems playing a game based on a PG-13 movie.

PG actually, only RotS and TFA are PG-13.

I know this can be hard for some of my fellow countrymen to grasp but there are in fact people who live in places other then the US, complete with their own laws, constitutions and social norms.

I think we all did get that. We were both just saying that in in 'Merica that it is not a problem, which was an answer to the OP's original question.

I've never heard of this. If you don't mind my asking, where is this?

If you mean Hexdot, then Northern Spain. If you mean me, then Carolina del Norte (North Carolina).

Anyway, I digress. Carry on.

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Very little of that in my area (Midwest US). When I tell people I war game as a hobby, and give a macro level overview, the general response is one of curiosity and viewing it as quaint, like playing Rome Total War.

Even some of the historical war games I play, most realize it's an interesting past time and don't think about it deeper than that.

At least that's been my experience. Your mileage may vary.

Nope. Nothing against Soccer or Hunting either. Guns maybe, but not hunting.

I think a "'MERICA!" is appropriate here. =)

And we shouldn't have to have arguments over guns either.... 2nd Amendment is very clear.

That out of the way (and lets not derail this and get into a silly argument about it), I don't think I've ever heard of, or seen these people down here in Georgia, but they certainly sound very silly.

Literally zero problems playing a game based on a PG-13 movie.

PG actually, only RotS and TFA are PG-13.

I know this can be hard for some of my fellow countrymen to grasp but there are in fact people who live in places other then the US, complete with their own laws, constitutions and social norms.

I never said that they didn't. I simply said that to a fellow American, it's very clear what OUR laws state. But don't derail this into a guns debate, that belongs in off-topic if even.

"Wargames" are looked with suspicious eyes by many people in my area. War is bad, ergo wargaming is bad too. Not a problem because there will be allways people who are against your hobby. Soccer = Violence. Hunting = Killing. Etc.

But as X wing is more and more popular and there are some X wing plays at youth centers, some "activists" start arguing that wargames should be 18+ only. This include games like Battlefield, CoD or "violent" MMORPG. Few in numbers, but I am cautious about this.

Last year Archery was in their aims, to not avail because the noise was good for people to know about this sport and now there are more practicioners than one year ago, but perhaps only because there were charismatic people behind it.

Problems in your area about this?

I've never heard of this being even remotely a problem. War games? X-Wing? Archery? Really?

Yeesh, people 'round your parts need to get a hobby. Might I suggest X-Wing?

Nope, nothing around here. Of course we got other things to worry about...

Where particularly in Spain? Because it's the first time I ever heard of such a thing and I've been living there for 30 years...

"Soccer = Violence"

Wait 'til they've seen football.

Technology they have. In Europe soccer = football. But anyway, I've never understood why people are against stuff like hunting and guns. Then again, I'm a southern boy. But seriously? Gettin' mad about a sci-fi fantasy game?

America won the last world cup- our girls beat Japan pretty handily. Until the next world cup, everyone has to call it "Soccer". That's the rule.

Fun fact: the second Amendment was based on a dirty joke. That's all I'm going to say about it. But if you don't understand why people don't like guns, I would suggest you think about what it is like to live somewhere with more humans than deer.

Technology they have. In Europe soccer = football. But anyway, I've never understood why people are against stuff like hunting and guns. Then again, I'm a southern boy. But seriously? Gettin' mad about a sci-fi fantasy game?

America won the last world cup- our girls beat Japan pretty handily. Until the next world cup, everyone has to call it "Soccer". That's the rule.

Fun fact: the second Amendment was based on a dirty joke. That's all I'm going to say about it. But if you don't understand why people don't like guns, I would suggest you think about what it is like to live somewhere with more humans than deer.

The 2nd amendment is like the human appendix, long ago it served an important and vital function but these days any potential benefit is outweighed by its tendency to backfire horribly and get people killed.

I'm a California boy, and... Nope. I'm not sure people really think about "war gaming" as such. Certainly, I don't think of X-wing as a war game. Mostly people in my experience think of it as a boardgame.

Having said all that... Competition and strategic thinking are definitely a part of the human condition. There are _lots_ of good reasons to not want to harm actual humans- or animals-, but a sport or game can satisfy many of those same needs.

I know that the gaming community is not without it's problems. If I had kids they'd be allowed to play all the games they wanted- but not have a headset.

However: there is _zero_ evidence that games cause people to be more aggressive or violent. There is some evidence that it causes people to be less so.

And we shouldn't have to have arguments over guns either.... 2nd Amendment is very clear.

What? Not only is it not particularly clear, it's not even grammatical!

Another example is the 'to do' over the use of Native American iconography for sports teams. Rather than fighting for better conditions for their people they get upset about Chief Wahoo or the Florida Seminoles. Whether the numbers hold true today at one time Native Americans had the highest rates of alcoholism and drug use in the US.

It's still true, and you might as well throw K-12 educational outcomes in there too. But it's interesting that you bring up the Florida Seminoles (by which I assume you mean the mascot of Florida State University). Unlike almost any other institution with an Native American mascot, they actually established a relationship with leaders of the Florida Seminole Tribe, and work with them to make sure the school's use of the name isn't perceived as demeaning or racist.

It's not a perfect system, and support for it among the Seminole tribes is far from unanimous. But it's a long way from there to the way the Washington Redskins or Cleveland Indians deal with the same issues.

As for the actual thread topic... like others, I'm an American. Shooting people is our traditional cultural means of resolving even minor differences, so wargames don't have any particular stigma attached (other than the usual stuff about unusual/geeky pastimes).

The 2nd amendment is like the human appendix, long ago it served an important and vital function but these days any potential benefit is outweighed by its tendency to backfire horribly and get people killed.

Let's just drop this part of the conversation here.

Living in quite possibly the most liberal part of the United States, no. Never had this problem. It probably helps that I have literally never heard anyone call X-Wing a "war game". It's a miniatures game. Did they ban Star Wars in Spain?

The 2nd amendment is like the human appendix, long ago it served an important and vital function but these days any potential benefit is outweighed by its tendency to backfire horribly and get people killed.

Let's just drop this part of the conversation here.

So Jack Thompson is now campaigning against board games.

What's next, Hillary is going to do a stump on removal of violent board games?

Have these people heard about Cards Against Humanity yet?

(**** these hipster SJW twerps )

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Just run away.

And we shouldn't have to have arguments over guns either.... 2nd Amendment is very clear.

What? Not only is it not particularly clear, it's not even grammatical!

hmmm, A canning facility in Nebraska.

the plot thickens.interesting

If only.

And we shouldn't have to have arguments over guns either.... 2nd Amendment is very clear.

What? Not only is it not particularly clear, it's not even grammatical!

I think the Founding Fathers would be quite upset if they could see how badly we've screwed up so many things in a little over 200 years. In our attempt to be open, for lack of a better word, we've removed prayer from schools, selectively decided on what to include as American History, turned a blind eye to corruption when it suited us, accepted lies and half truths as gospel and allowed our Republic to be slowly turned into an Oligarchy amongst other things. George Orwell was right. His time frame was a little off.

As far as the 2nd Amendment goes, there's a very good reason it came in right after free speech. Don't get me started on politics. Aristotle thought it was the highest calling and a science. Obviously things have changed since he was around.

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