"No War" people vs X wing

By Hexdot, in X-Wing

Yeah I stopped reading as soon as you used the mirror as a credible source, tabloid garbage that uses sensationalism to sell papers.

In all fairness that was only 1 in 7. Just saying.

In all fairness that was only 1 in 7. Just saying.

With the exception of the BBC and the Guardian the others were actually less credible than the Mirror. In case you don't know the British press at all, that takes significant effort. The Mirror is somewhere around the level of an American publication I once saw that ran a front page story claiming that Prince Phillip controlled the world through the auspice of his shock terror troups, the World Wildlife Fund.

No, it wasn't a satirical magazine. That was their idea of serous reportage.

Yeah I stopped reading as soon as you used the mirror as a credible source, tabloid garbage that uses sensationalism to sell papers.

In all fairness that was only 1 in 7. Just saying.

The other two were a site called "Jihadwhatch". Surely not interested in crafting their own narrative...

That 1.6% of the population that's muslim will take over any day now didn't you hear?

Personally I suspect the local taxi firm I use on a regular basis is a major Isis cell, they are too friendly one of them even talked to me about Nintendo...clearly plotting something.

It's such paranoid nonsense, yes there are bad people in that group but there are bad people in every group you don't judge people by the worst examples.

Such nonsense

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sharia-law-alive-well-uk-6957168

such nonsense

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/02/uk-rotherham-city-that-covered-up-muslim-****-gang-activity-steps-up-police-patrols-against-islamophobia

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089

such nonsense

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/02/uk-cops-arrest-man-for-offensive-comment-about-muslim-migrants

such nonsense, taxi drivers are so nice...

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/15/five-people-arrested-in-west-midlands-uk-over-planning-terrorist-acts

I'm just whacked out of the gourd.

These parents trying to save their children are clearly racists.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/239615/uk-police-arrested-parents-trying-stop-muslims-daniel-greenfield

^ more nice taxi drivers.

Tolerance is so beautiful. Too bad the UK couldn't keep out that meanie Trump, they should only allow peace activists like this guy:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/633059/muslim-preacher-husbands-should-hit-wives-tour-uk-universities

1) Yes, there are bad people in every group. Look, for example, at the Westborough Baptist Church, the shooting of people at abortion clinics by fundamental Christians, the shooting of people by the general populace, various war crimes carried out by soldiers.

Anyone can say 'such-and-such' is a threat to our way of life and produce newspaper articles. Just remember that more American children have been killed by guns than Americans have by terrorists in the last few years...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jun/25/us-accidental-gun-deaths-100-children-yearly

As for tolerance and free-speech - it amuses me that someone from the country which touts itself as 'land of the free' is trying to lecture me on what we should or shouldn't allow to be said. Actually, Britain has a pretty solid track record of banning people from the country who spread hate speech.

But guess what - free speech is one of those 'inalienable rights' you yanks love so much. Come back when you've sorted out the inherent racism, anti-LGBT, xenophobia and republicans that seem to plague your country. There are much more problematic issues at hand than a couple of Muslims who are reviled by every other Muslim in the West (and a lot in the rest of the world as well.)

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Comparing extremist outliers like the WBC in a religion that is perpetually reforming to accommodate modern sensibilities to radical islamism is a straw man argument. Especially when every other christian group disavows them.

The minority of muslums commit terrorist acts, but the majority refuse to condemn them.

"Moderate" islamism, moderate compared to what exactly?

http://i.imgur.com/TZR5I61.png

Scholarly criticism of the bible is an entire field of research that addresses the diaspora of Christians and contextual interpretations of the new testament.

Attempting to do the same with the Quran is considered apostasy and punishable by death under their laws.

You've completely missed the point of having your country's hypocrisies thrown at you.

And you are oblivious to American culture if you think guns are a problem here.

More Americans have been killed by traffic accidents caused by unlicensed illegal immigrants this year than guns and terrorism combined. Anytime someone wants to address the dangers brought into the country by Obama's open border policy they are called a racist.

Illegal isn't a race, it is a crime, and facts aren't racist.

I like Milo though, how popular is he across the pond?

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More Americans have been killed by traffic accidents caused by unlicensed illegal immigrants this year than guns and terrorism combined.

Really? The 30k fatalities caused by traffic accidents are all caused by illegal immigrants?

Because the deathrate is 10.6 per 100.000 citizens for traffic and 10.54 for guns.

And if you would not call 13000 homicides by guns a problem then I wouldn't want to know when it does become a problem.

Now, I'm well aware that you can't copy one situation and paste it on another country, the US is far less densely populated for the most part than the Netherlands for instance and I can imagine wanting to own a gun if you're the only one for miles around and that sort of trickles down as a whole mentality after enough time has passed.

But still, just think of the cost of all that gun violence, it would just make economic sense to start looking at lowering the violence rate.

But, it's your country, and if you're okay with having 30K people killed each year, by all means.

Comparing extremist outliers like the WBC in a religion that is perpetually reforming to accommodate modern sensibilities to radical islamism is a straw man argument. Especially when every other christian group disavows them.

The minority of muslums commit terrorist acts, but the majority refuse to condemn them.

Actually, no. Comparing the extreme of one religion to the extreme of another is the complete opposite of a straw man.

The minority of muslums commit terrorist acts, but the majority refuse to condemn them.
They do, all the time. But frankly, why should they. Do you apologise for slavery? Do you apologise for the annihilation of the native American's. I bet you don't - and nor should you. It's not your fault that happened (I hope). Neither is it the fault of the 99.9% for Muslims living in any country.

And you are oblivious to American culture if you think guns are a problem here.

Well, I've lived in America, I'm well aware of its culture. How can you say guns are not a problem when you have more than one mass shooting a day?

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/03/us/how-often-do-mass-shootings-occur-on-average-every-day-records-show.html?_r=0

Britain, in comparison, has had about 3 in 20 years after the Dunblane school shooting in 1996.

The number of CHILDREN, and I deliberately emphasis this, killed by guns is sickening. And this comes from terrorism, but more frequently, someone with a mental health issue or a 'responsible gun owner' who leves a loaded handgun in reach of a toddler, who then blows their own head off. America has a problem.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-33115246

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/12/kansas-cops-3-year-old-son-shoots-and-kills-himself-with-gun-found-inside-apartment/

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ga-toddler-shoots-kills-gun-left-bed-article-1.2414173

Oh, and before you set up your own strawman blaming a lack of mental health support, answer this. How can a person with serious mental health issues even get a gun. Oh, that's because gun-nuts constantly campaign tat background checks, waiting periods and of safety features to stop guns falling into the hands of these people is 'unconstitutional'. You know what else should be unconstitutional? The fact that people feel the need to have metal detectors in school, arm teachers, and market bulletproof backpacks to children who's biggest concern should be if they are getting something they like at lunchtime.

http://www.bulletblocker.com/bullet-proof-backpack-shield.html

Take a long hard look at America's culture of guns and frankly, you should be ashamed of yourself.

Edited by The Penguin UK

Either Vulf actually believes the awful things he's saying, in which case additional replies are unlikely to change his mind, or he's deliberately trolling, in which case additional replies are what he wants. So either way, the best bet is probably to report his racist comments, block him, and let the thread die.

Edited by Vorpal Sword

Right as so often VS.

Either Vulf actually believes the awful things he's saying, in which case additional replies are unlikely to change his mind, or he's deliberately trolling, in which case additional replies are what he wants. So either way, the best bet is probably to report his racist comments, block him, and let the thread die.

What are my racist comments?

And yes, there are a lot of instances of violence that take place within the United States each year, but guess what?

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The US is a very big place. And this does not include Alaska or our islands.

Edited by Vulf

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