Naming the Regions

By dmday512, in Star Wars: Rebellion

My friends and during our game last night talked about how we should name the regions to make it easier when discussing the game. We only really had 3 ideas, so I figured I would post this here and find out what ideas others might have. No matter how much you know about Star Wars someone on the internet probably knows more. Our ideas so far were for these regions:

Core/Core Worlds: Coruscant, Alderaan, Cato Neimoidia, Corellia

Hutt Space: Kessel, Nal Hutta, Bothawui, Toydaria

Outer Rim: Tatooine, Rodia, Geonosis, Ryloth

Would love to hear some other ideas!

The region containing Bespin and Hoth could be Anoat (the sector both these systems were in canonically).

Other region names you might consider: Mid-Rim, Expansion Region and the Slice. Go with your gut on which best fits each name. Whatever helps you remember it.

Below may be the map you want to reference. So, the regions would be:

  • The New Territories (Dantooine, Ilum, Ord Mantell & Mygeeto)
  • The Core Worlds (Coruscant, Alderaan, Cato Neimoidia, Corellia)
  • The Borderlands (Yavin, Felucia, Mon Calamari, Saleucami) - though a number of those are in the Slice.
  • Northern Dependencies/Inner Slice (Kashyyyk, Mandalore, Dathomir, and Malastare) - clearly the name that has the most problems
  • Hutt Space (Toydaria, Bothawui, Kessel, Nal Hutta)
  • Arkanis Sector (Tatooine, Ryloth, Rodia & Geonosis) - not all are in the Arkanis Sector proper, but they're all around it.
  • Trailing Sectors (Naboo, Sullust, Dagobah Utapau)
  • Western Reaches (Mustafar, Endor, Bespin & Hoth) - it is explicitly mentioned in TFA, and they place Jakku not far from Endor on the nuCanon map, so the Western Reaches go further into the trailing end of the galaxy than shown on the map below.

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Of course, the Rebellion map is quite whack in comparison to the established maps of the galaxy, but that's just something we need to live with.

So where will Jaku be located at :P

Ugh. Star Wars has always been really bad for consistency with scale and how long it takes to get places but... how the **** did Starkiller shoot Hosnian Prime, and it was seen from Takodana? Absurd. A distance like that should have taken weeks in hyperspace.

Ugh. Star Wars has always been really bad for consistency with scale and how long it takes to get places but... how the **** did Starkiller shoot Hosnian Prime, and it was seen from Takodana? Absurd. A distance like that should have taken weeks in hyperspace.

I've slowly come to terms with the fact that travel is at the speed of plot, and that plot is fast-paced.

And this is why I keep telling people that Star Wars s space fantasy, not sci-fi. Because if it tried to be scientifically plausible it wouldn't be Star Wars. It would be Star Trek.

Q: How do lightsaber blades know when to stop?

A: Because they're awesome.

Ugh. Star Wars has always been really bad for consistency with scale and how long it takes to get places but... how the **** did Starkiller shoot Hosnian Prime, and it was seen from Takodana? Absurd. A distance like that should have taken weeks in hyperspace.

I've slowly come to terms with the fact that travel is at the speed of plot, and that plot is fast-paced.

Well atleast it is better than the consistency of Star Trek with the whole alternate universe and now alternate timeline. As a big trek fan all this alternate outcomes is giving me a big headache. I am sort of glad I didn't read all those EU Star Wars novels or get heavily involve with all the KOTOR stuff.

As far as this question (travel time) is concerned, it's not so much the novels that got dumped (though they did, and in more than a few cases it was an act of mercy to do so), but the lore from the old role-playing games.

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As far as this question (travel time) is concerned, it's not so much the novels that got dumped (though they did, and in more than a few cases it was an act of mercy to do so), but the lore from the old role-playing games.

The novels that were good (Zahn, Stackpole, Alliston) remain good reads. Nobody outlawed them and you can still get them on Amazon. The RPG that added the most to canon is WEG's D6 and not much is contradicting it at this point. Some of it has been made movie/tv canon (Coruscant, juggernauts Imperial Inquisitors, ISB..) And being RPG lore, there's certainly nothing to prevent you from using it in the way it was intended.

In short, unless you're a licensed author or screenwriter writing in the Star Wars universe, the shift to 'legends' doesn't impact us at all.

And I agree about much of it being better buried (KJA, Crystal Star, Yuuzban Vong)

As far as this question (travel time) is concerned, it's not so much the novels that got dumped (though they did, and in more than a few cases it was an act of mercy to do so), but the lore from the old role-playing games.

The novels that were good (Zahn, Stackpole, Alliston) remain good reads. Nobody outlawed them and you can still get them on Amazon. The RPG that added the most to canon is WEG's D6 and not much is contradicting it at this point. Some of it has been made movie/tv canon (Coruscant, juggernauts Imperial Inquisitors, ISB..) And being RPG lore, there's certainly nothing to prevent you from using it in the way it was intended.

In short, unless you're a licensed author or screenwriter writing in the Star Wars universe, the shift to 'legends' doesn't impact us at all.

And I agree about much of it being better buried (KJA, Crystal Star, Yuuzban Vong)

Concerning the travel times, however, WEG set out some strong notions, but those have been blasted apart by, in particular, the Clone Wars. In TCW, it really seems like it takes no time at all to get from one place to the next. Also, when they discuss things of an astrographical nature - which places are supposed to be nearby one another, they are very contradictory. One episode had the Toydarians being the closest allies to move supplies to Ryloth and another had the Gungans being the closest to bring reinforcements to Mon Calamari.

When Jason Fry (one of the authors of the Essential Atlas ) seems to explain these with Obi Wan having sustained head injuries. That, or "our list of allies grows thin."

Basically, the EU got Order 66'd so as to give story-tellers free reign to do all sorts of things that make no internal sense. I'm not excessively confident that the Lucasfilm Story Group is going to have the capability (interest?) in really protecting that internal cohesion even without the EU. I imagine that compared to the creators (JJ Abrams, Dave Filoni, Gareth Edwards), they don't have enough pull within the system to really force coherency on the fictional universe, which only niche nerds like us really care about.

Ugh. Star Wars has always been really bad for consistency with scale and how long it takes to get places but... how the **** did Starkiller shoot Hosnian Prime, and it was seen from Takodana? Absurd. A distance like that should have taken weeks in hyperspace.

What other hyperspace death weapon travel times are you using for comparison?

Holonet communications travel instantly across the Galaxy through hyperspace. Ships don't. I would think an energy weapon would be closer to the communications times then starship times, So perhaps not instantly, but it takes a couple minutes, would be in sync with what we see on screen.

Basically, the EU got Order 66'd so as to give story-tellers free reign to do all sorts of things that make no internal sense. I'm not excessively confident that the Lucasfilm Story Group is going to have the capability (interest?) in really protecting that internal cohesion even without the EU. I imagine that compared to the creators (JJ Abrams, Dave Filoni, Gareth Edwards), they don't have enough pull within the system to really force coherency on the fictional universe, which only niche nerds like us really care about.

If faced with the choice of wiping the slate to allow for fresh storytelling not mired by two decades of novels of varying quality, or requiring moviegoer audiences to learn all about everything from Thrawn to the Yuuxhan Vong before seeing the movie, Disney not only made the right choice. They made the only realistic choice.

Imagine how you'd feel if you were expected to read 50 years of Avengers back issues in order to watch the marvel movies. The film's need to be approachable. It was not an indictment of the novels or what they contributed, but a realization that they couldn't be allowed to change the film universe. (Something they knew when they started the novels but no one then believed we'd ever get another movie let alone nine more, so it wasn't a problem.)

P.S. There are rumors Thrawn may be brought back into the canon, joining the roster in Rebels.

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Basically, the EU got Order 66'd so as to give story-tellers free reign to do all sorts of things that make no internal sense. I'm not excessively confident that the Lucasfilm Story Group is going to have the capability (interest?) in really protecting that internal cohesion even without the EU. I imagine that compared to the creators (JJ Abrams, Dave Filoni, Gareth Edwards), they don't have enough pull within the system to really force coherency on the fictional universe, which only niche nerds like us really care about.

There was certainly more to it than that. As soon as the new movies were announced, I knew immediately they'd have to ditch the EU. It was the only way. The expanded universe had gotten too unwieldy and awful for anyone but hardcore fans to deal with.

If faced with the choice of wiping the slate to allow for fresh storytelling not mired by two decades of novels of varying quality, or requiring moviegoer audiences to learn all about everything from Thrawn to the Yuuxhan Vong before seeing the movie, Disney not only made the right choice. They made the only realistic choice.

Imagine how you'd feel if you were expected to read 50 years of Avengers back issues in order to watch the marvel movies. The film's need to be approachable. It was not an indictment of the novels or what they contributed, but a realization that they couldn't be allowed to change the film universe. (Something they knew when they started the novels but no one then believed we'd ever get another movie let alone nine more, so it wasn't a problem.)

P.S. There are rumors Thrawn may be brought back into the canon, joining the roster in Rebels.

Beyond that, a lot of the EU was just bad. Ridiculous alien species that were obviously poorly thought out. Poorly written comics and novels that damaged the reputation of the IP more than it did to expand it. Totally cliché plotlines and stories that just made the IP look campy.

Don't get me wrong, some of the EU was great, but for every one good thing that came out of the EU, there were half a dozen ideas that never should have seen the light of day.