Hi everybody,
i just saw the new spoiler for Calm over Westeros: Venegeance for Elia. That card reads
Martell loyal, Event, 2 Gold
Interrupt: When claim is applied for a challenge in which you are the defending player, choose an opponent. That player must satisfy the normal claim effect instead of you as if he or she were the defending player.
Now i am wondering how this interacts with claim replacement, e.g. Seastone Chair or Mirri Maz Duur.
Short version: Is Vengeance for Elia Claim replacement or not?
Long version:
Situation 1: The attacking (and winning player) is first player.
So the attacking player triggers let's say Seastone Chair and the defending player wants to play Vengeance for Elia.
What happens?
a) The defending player can't play Vengeance for Elia since the "normal claim effect" was replaced. Therefore it has no target or wouldn't change the game state.
b) The defending player is allowed to play VfE. The attacking player has to satisfy the normal claim effect. The defending player has to satisfy no claim.
c) The defending player is allowed to play VfE.No player has to satisfy claim.
d) The defending player is allowed to play VfE. Both players have to satisfy claim.
My comment: If VfE counts as Replacement Effect for the claim I guess the case is settled and b) is correct with page 18 of the Rules Reference. But in my opinion it VfE does not replace the claim but targets another player.
Situation 2: The defending (and losing player) is first player.
So the defending player triggers VfE and the attacking player wants to trigger let's again say Seaston Chair.
What happens?
a) The attacking player can't trigger SC since he is the target of the claim.
b) The attacking player can trigger SC. The defending player has to satisfy claim. The attacking player has to satisfy no claim.
c) The attacking player can trigger SC. No player has to satisfy claim.
d) The attacking player can trigger SC. Both players have to satisfy claim.
My comment: Same as for Situation 1.
The more I think about it the more i find myself confused. I would be happy if someone could help me with this!
Edited by MQSi