At Disneyland today and I saw this. Is it worth getting? How does the size comparison to the isd Ii model? 22€
I measured an Armada ISD and it is very close to 2"x5"x8". The Disney store lists the ship as 2"x5"x8" and says it is a combination of Metal and Plastic. 
So I ordered one. I'll put up a comparison once I get it.
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While I don't argue the world is filled with folks that are compelled to tweak their toys, I think you're being a bit presumptuous to say that. I'd compare it to the statement "I think most people want to be active in touching up the paintings they hang in their house to make them just right." Desire does not equate to ability. The mere fact that folks contract out to paint others miniatures is proof of that.I think that most people who want to be active in making their miniatures look just right, actually like the challenge of doing so. I'm quite happy with the unpainted squadrons, because that allowed me to paint them myself. For those without the time, it's nice just to be able to open the box and start playing.
I have an Imperial Guard army from 40K and I doubt there is an unmodified figure in the lot. But cutting up tiny plastic men isn't quite the same as cutting up a ship.
Just look at how many different versions of the CR Mel has and I think that's evidence enough that there is a market out there for variations of design without the purchaser being the one that has to make it.
Purchasing conversion "bits" from a third party is not far off from just having the bits come with the original purchase and putting it together a bit different.
I agree most people want their models "right." I can't agree that most have the confidence, patience, and ability to be the one that makes them so.
Heck, if we could, FFG wouldn't be able to sell anything. We'd all be carving our fleets out of wood at home.
*Shrug*
I think you took my post more categorically than intended.
My point is that FFG won't make a lot of money putting out a special ISDI model. Those that want to spend the time and money to tweak their ISDs to be ISDIs, can do so.
At Disneyland today and I saw this. Is it worth getting? How does the size comparison to the isd Ii model? 22€
The diecast Disney Star Destroyer is also an ISD-II. As for the model, it is larger than the FFG one, about as wide but longer and therefor much sleeker. It is also much heavier as the main hull is metal. Proportionally it is a better fit to the Star Destroyers seen in the movies. It also has a proportionally better bridge (FFG ISD bridge is too small) Detail is great, and very accurate to the movies. The FFG Star Destroyer has even better detail, especially on the bridge tower (not the bridge itself, which looks great and very detailed, but the 'neck' ) which is very undetailed on the Disney model. The FFG model also has more height differences, i.e. the various protruding plates on the hull are a couple of mm thick, while on the Disney model they are like barely half a mm thick making it a bit flatter/smoother, what is better depends on personal taste I guess. Imho the FFG model overdoes it a bit, but the Disney model could have a bit more elevation.
Overall I'd rate them as follows:
Proportions/Overall look
Disney: 9.9/10
FFG: 7.5/10
Movie accuracy (size of hangar, placement of reactor bulb, layout of bridge, etc..)
Disney: 9.5/10
FFG: 8/10
Detail
Disney: 8/10 (would be 9/10 if they had done the bridge tower better)
FFG: 9.5/10
Paintjob
Disney: 4/10
FFG: 7/10
Overall I can recommend the Disney ISD as a more movie accurate replacement for the FFG ISD, however it will involve some work as you will need to somehow get a FFG large stand, find a way to mount the Disney ISD on that stand (magnets don't work on the diecast hull) and repaint it, as the base paint job is...well its bad but actually a pretty decent basecoat for repainting 
*Shrug*
I think you took my post more categorically than intended.
My point is that FFG won't make a lot of money putting out a special ISDI model. Those that want to spend the time and money to tweak their ISDs to be ISDIs, can do so.
Oh. My apologies if I misunderstood. FFG not releasing full price alternate models with trivial/minor changes in superstructure at best, I agree with 100%. I never for a moment thought they'd release variation models. Nor did I seriously think they'd change their format for production to make customization an option for the listed variants. I was simply saying "I wish" as a "wouldn't it be nice" day dream.
While I'd love to have an accurate model of each variant for collection purposes, as far as the game goes, I agree fully in making a single model to represent all variants. Cost-wise for a player it makes a lot more sense the way they have done it. We may even see cards for versions III and IV with the new movies.
Myself, I know I will eventually put my ships under the knife. ...just need to work up to it.
At Disneyland today and I saw this. Is it worth getting? How does the size comparison to the isd Ii model? 22€
The diecast Disney Star Destroyer is also an ISD-II. As for the model, it is larger than the FFG one, about as wide but longer and therefor much sleeker. It is also much heavier as the main hull is metal. Proportionally it is a better fit to the Star Destroyers seen in the movies. It also has a proportionally better bridge (FFG ISD bridge is too small) Detail is great, and very accurate to the movies. The FFG Star Destroyer has even better detail, especially on the bridge tower (not the bridge itself, which looks great and very detailed, but the 'neck' ) which is very undetailed on the Disney model. The FFG model also has more height differences, i.e. the various protruding plates on the hull are a couple of mm thick, while on the Disney model they are like barely half a mm thick making it a bit flatter/smoother, what is better depends on personal taste I guess. Imho the FFG model overdoes it a bit, but the Disney model could have a bit more elevation.
Overall I'd rate them as follows:
Proportions/Overall look
Disney: 9.9/10
FFG: 7.5/10
Movie accuracy (size of hangar, placement of reactor bulb, layout of bridge, etc..)
Disney: 9.5/10
FFG: 8/10
Detail
Disney: 8/10 (would be 9/10 if they had done the bridge tower better)
FFG: 9.5/10
Paintjob
Disney: 4/10
FFG: 7/10
Overall I can recommend the Disney ISD as a more movie accurate replacement for the FFG ISD, however it will involve some work as you will need to somehow get a FFG large stand, find a way to mount the Disney ISD on that stand (magnets don't work on the diecast hull) and repaint it, as the base paint job is...well its bad but actually a pretty decent basecoat for repainting
Curious as I think the FFG ISD is much more accurate and the bridge tower is the right scale. The Die Cast looks way out of proportioned and too long. When I look at pictures of ISD's from the movies the FFG ISD looks great.
I carefully compared both models to the original. The bridge should be slightly wider than the elevated superstructure, on the FFG model its less wide. It's a minor complaint, but there it is. And the flat tip should be a fair bit longer than the part with the elevated superstructure, with the FFG model its not. This gives it a stunted look imho.
Here is a brilliant photo of the original movie prop:
And here are some comparisson shots someone else made for the Disney & FFG model:
Both look pretty good, the Disney one definitely needs a paint job.
I didn't buy it in the end and now have nerd regret
The FFG ISD's bridge does extend beyond the edge of the highest command level like the model. I think the picture of the movie model you posted is at a severe angle so it will definitely look longer like the die cast model. Looking at other images from the movies it looks wider and less pointy like the FFG model.
To each their own however. The detail work on the die cast model is the main drawback for me.
I think a true ISD 1 variant really needs to have a new model and not just changing the center tractor beam array on the bridge tower. You could just cut that off and flip it upright and you have the ISD 1 look for the top of the bridge but the actual details of the face of the bridge tower are different. You also have the 3 axial turbolaser turrets at the front of where the command levels start. You have the big turbolaser turrets and ion cannon turrets on each side that also has different levels next to it compared to the ISD2. There is also turbolasers in the rear trench notch per the Incredible cross sections book. It needs a full shapeways remodel if you want to do it justice and not have an ISD2 hybrid.
My Work is (Slowly) Progressing. I wish I could say I had more done, but a Commission has been taking my time, and the other time I've had away from that, I've not been able to pick up a Knife or Putty because the 2-Year Old has wanted to sit in my lap and watch my progress
But, here it is thusfar. (So many pieces!)
I'm actually looking to accomplish a fair bit with this project.
I'll be stripping it back down to its bare base plastic before any work gets done... This will allow me to cut/shave off any thing that I don't want, before adding plasticard for anything I do - and thus get a nice prime over the lot to hide any and all mistakes.
HOPEFULLY, that will also allow me to fix the damage (You can see the Crack on the Bow, and the fact that the top piece is missing some edges - these are still stuck to the underside)... Unfortunately, while I was dissassembling it, it was dropped off the desk and jumped on - which did progress its dissassembly - but by breaking some joins I would have preferred to have levered apart. Oh well. Its going ot be an old haggard ISD-I anyway, right?
Most of the Replacement Turrets and structure will be built up out of Putty and Plasticard. I'm hoping to Mock one or two up, and then Remould/recast them so they are Identical across both sides... I don't know how "Battle Tank" I'll make them like above, or wether I'll default to the standard "Boxy" XX-9 Turbolasers and NK-7 Ions reported to be on it... But we'll see how that part of the project goes...
So, next step, a Bath in Rubbing Alcohol!
I hope you can find some miniature tank turrets to make this ISD-I a little more real. Would you be up to investing in some micro-armor? Might be tricky trying to file turrets off what is surely one-piece metal molds, but they look about the right size, and they're more interesting than more NK-7 boxes.
Anyone else doing conversions? I'd love if it Mel or one of our other shapeways users could make up a replacement kit. Turrets, the bridge facade, and the targeting antenna would probably be enough.
Anyone see any good brass things to add to the engines to use as baffles? Anyone know of any good tiny resisters that would do the job?
ghqmodels.com might have what you're looking for in turrets. It's my experience with the tanks that the turrets are separate from the tank hull so it would be perfect. I don't know how the scale differences would work out. In SW these are supposed to be massive turrets so it might work. If I have time, I'll pull some of my micro armor out and hold it up for a comparison. They also have micro ships with turrets that would probably be perfect but they "appear" to be part of the whole mold.
I have a budget of $0.
All of my "Micro Armour" is far too large.
I will be doing this by hand with materials on hand.
This sounds like a perfect application for 3D printing
I was trying to find where the ISD-I turrets come from, so anyone might try ordering the corresponding turrets from something like Pico armor, cutting them off the tanks, and mounting them over the 8-barrel ones used on the ISD-II.
I found this thread, where modelers are trying to identify all the greebles on the ISD-I and what kits they come from. Apparently the side-turrets are an amalgamation of several parts, but the base of the main turrets is the turret of an M4 Sherman variant with other battleship greebles attached.
If nothing else, that site is a pretty good resource for putting together a better ISD-I.
If you get one GHQ 1/2400 battleship model it would probubly have all the turrets you would need for an ISD 1. The down side is it will be around $20 and you will have a battleship hull and some other parts you may never use. The turrets would be perfect though. I own several of the models and they are highly detailed, with seperate turrets.
Edited by ThalomenWhen your Budget is 0, your Budget is 0 
At that size, anyway, relative details are mostly irrelevant... Especially when viewed at Arms Length.
Omg...and I ought I had time on my hands. Lol
When your Budget is 0, your Budget is 0
At that size, anyway, relative details are mostly irrelevant... Especially when viewed at Arms Length.
I understand that. My suggestion was for future reference. A few months from now, who knows? Maybe you can pursue options like that.
Picture Tomorrow once the Primer Coat has gone on...
Work Done:
Shaved off Quad Turrets, replaced with actual turrets...
Removed front piece, added Dorsal turrets (x3)
Added Bridge Superstructure Detail.
Added Engine Baffles...
Added Height to Sensor Array (still needs more work)
....
Also repaired Toddler Damage, starting with some Gapfilling and shaving...
So, y'know what...
.. It might not be the Prettiest Girl in the Fleet... Or the Youngest... Or the most Capable...
But she'll be the First.
I wouldn't be surprised if FFG would release an official version of the ISD I. Like, they just did a TFA Millennium Falcon, where the biggest visible difference is the new sensor dish. And it comes with some new titles and upgrade cards.
By this example, they could release an ISD I model as well, with some new cards to play around with. I'm sure it would sell.
Eh, I just don't see it worthwhile for them to do.
At least the Falcon is Iconic - and has a specific difference. We're not just modelling nitpickers here - its stated to be the same, but different.
Plus, its mostly an avenue to get Rey in as a Pilot for X-Wing. The box is less about the Falcon than it is about Rey in reality....
The ISD-1 has no attachment like that - at least, none that we know of that wouldn't be better served with a Finalizer instead of an ISD-1....
(And for the record, I hate the idea of a Finalizer, too... But I still see it as more likely...)
Primer is still Drying.
So much to do.
Once the Primer coat is dry, I need to touch up and round out those Engine Baffles... They just look like stuck on pieces at the moment, they need to curve on the edges more... But painting will also help with that...
I couldn't make a spindle to hold up the Sensor Array like on the real ISD-1, so I've improvised...
The model piece donating its Turrets (and one of its stacks to hold the array up... and provide the flash/gate pieces that made the fore dorsal turrets) was...
"Micronauts" - in specific, a GWR7 ACR Rurik.
i am absolutely blessed that the Sentry Box has an absolutely massive Military modelling department, even beyond the 'regular' gaming models... Took me a good half an hour to choose.
Even then ,its not perfect... I was hoping for 6 small turrets, and 2 larger ones.. Instead, I got 5 and 3... So its not quite even. But thats okay, my yet-unnamed ISD-I will have character that way...
Painting will start once the Primer is completely set... Its a polymer gap-filler, which I used as it will help smooth out some of the literal cracks and damage that it took when the Toddler stamped on it...
So much to do.
Once the Primer coat is dry, I need to touch up and round out those Engine Baffles... They just look like stuck on pieces at the moment, they need to curve on the edges more... But painting will also help with that...
I couldn't make a spindle to hold up the Sensor Array like on the real ISD-1, so I've improvised...
The model piece donating its Turrets (and one of its stacks to hold the array up... and provide the flash/gate pieces that made the fore dorsal turrets) was...
"Micronauts" - in specific, a GWR7 ACR Rurik.
i am absolutely blessed that the Sentry Box has an absolutely massive Military modelling department, even beyond the 'regular' gaming models... Took me a good half an hour to choose... and what, almost 4 weeks to raise the $13 it cost me...
Even then ,its not perfect... I was hoping for 6 small turrets, and 2 larger ones.. Instead, I got 5 and 3... So its not quite even. But thats okay, my yet-unnamed ISD-I will have character that way...
Painting will start once the Primer is completely set... Its a polymer gap-filler, which I used as it will help smooth out some of the literal cracks and damage that it took when the Toddler stamped on it...
Very nice work.The only thing I would recommend that you should just tilt the tractor beam array on the tower forward. What I mean is all you need to do is take the top view of the array and rotate it 90 degrees forward so the top of the array is facing out towards the front. If you look at the ISD 1 Devastator the array is just flipped 90 degress forward. You could just attach it to the current attachment points. The axial turrets look nice.