Refuse to play Spirit Glorfindel?

By Vicaroth, in The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game

I'M amazed to see how few deck use Lore Aragorn...

His ability is only good either against encounters that have a lot of doom or threat raising, or if you include doom cards/Boromir yourself. Otherwise I've only used him because his name is Aragorn (for his attachments) and I needed a Lore hero.

Edited by Slothgodfather

I had some time this weekend so I built seastan's two handed boromir decks and took them against 4 different nightmare decks....absolutely crushed them all. I'm very impressed. My gf made the comment that game is too easy with them. I get people saying he needs a lot of set up to be at his max potential, but you don't him to be at his max to be OP. Really for 90% of enemies you only need the arwen ally and gondorian shield and boromir is nearly unstoppable. 5 defense and can block any number of enemies. I won't deny that glorfindel is in more types of decks, but even if boromir only fits in one type of deck, that deck can crush nearly any quest. Ffg has errata'ed far less powerful cards, I wonder why this one hasn't been errata'ed yet.

Edited by zeromage

I'm in no hurry for FFG to errata cards because they're overpowered in one of Seastan's decks. Have we learned nothing from what happened to Horn of Gondor or Master of Lore? Boromir might be more balanced with a (limit once per round) slapped on him, but he'd be far less interesting.

I hope they don't. If that style of deck doesn't appeal to you. don't build it or play it.

I'M amazed to see how few deck use Lore Aragorn...

His ability is only good either against encounters that have a lot of doom or threat raising, or if you include doom cards/Boromir yourself. Otherwise I've only used him because his name is Aragorn (for his attachments) and I needed a Lore hero.

I always use him with Sword that was broken and Wingfoot; I think he's a super good hero alla round.

I hope they don't. If that style of deck doesn't appeal to you. don't build it or play it.

You have to be careful with that. New scenarios are designed and playtested with the current card pool in mind. I really don't want to get into a situation where you have to play finely-honed power decks to beat a quest.

Adding "(Limit once per round while your threat is under 40)" would be a vaguely thematic nerf.

New scenarios may be tested with the current card pool in mind, but they have not in the past been constructed to be defeated only with "finely-honed power decks" -- at least not all or even most of the quests in a cycle.

Based on past history, I'd rather take my chances with FFG's scenarios than FFG's erratas.

I think "once per phase" is a good limitation on Boromir. Still lets you defend twice or defend and attack, though you still get away with Peace And Thought nonsense.

New scenarios may be tested with the current card pool in mind, but they have not in the past been constructed to be defeated only with "finely-honed power decks" -- at least not all or even most of the quests in a cycle.

Based on past history, I'd rather take my chances with FFG's scenarios than FFG's erratas.

Absolutely.

I think "once per phase" is a good limitation on Boromir. Still lets you defend twice or defend and attack, though you still get away with Peace And Thought nonsense.

That might be too extreme. I'd settle for three times a round. That still gives him 4 actions a turn. While he'd still be powerful, he couldn't block everyone on the board and then kill every enemy.

Now, it will be fun to see all the players complaining about Glorfi being OP playing his ally version that is coming soon... with Sword-Thain.

Glorfindel ally is totally OP in Caldara deck ... And with To the Sea ! To the Sea ! + Galdor Hero same ...

Glorfindel ally is totally OP in Caldara deck ... And with To the Sea ! To the Sea ! + Galdor Hero same ...

Can,t wait to play him! ;)

Hadn't thought of Glorfindel + To the Sea + Galdor......

First turn. Play To the Sea! and another 1 cost or even a 0 cost card.

Discard four cards to To the Sea! to reduce Glorfindel (or even Gildor for this matter.....) to 1 cost and play him with your last resource...

(Mega bonus if any of these discarded cards are Elven Light or Lords of the Eldar)

Then simply trigger Galdor's ability and get a new starting hand....

If you used this combo to play Gildor instead of Glorfindel you could discard Glorfindel as one of the 4 cards and then next turn you could play him for just 1 resource with To the Sea as well... you would have all new cards from Galdor...

(note that nowhere is there any connection to playing from your hand it just states "next noldor ally played this phase" which means you can use it when playing Glorfindel from the discard pile)

jesus.....

Might be time for round 300 on contemplating how to take the Glorfindel hero out of my decks and not have them just completely suck against certain quests without Asfaloth...

Man I wish that Asfaloth could be attached to the ally version.... it should have been attach to a noldor or silvan character rather than hero....

I hope we get a few other ways to deal with locations in this upcoming cycle... those recent spoilers were awesome and very promising but I really hope we get a few other location control cards..

another for noldor would be great but I have a sinking feeling that Imladris Steed was the Noldor location card and we won't get another.... same goes for Hithlain with Silvan...

Edited by PsychoRocka

Glorfi ally with Sword-thain can use Asfaloth...

I feel like The Evening Star is phenomenal location control.

Glorfi ally with Sword-thain can use Asfaloth...

yeah that really doesn't seem worth it though...

Glorfi ally with Sword-thain can use Asfaloth...

yeah that really doesn't seem worth it though...

Well... Asfoloth that costs you like 12 resources to play... I see your point!

You know, why can't we ever get a splash-in Leadership hero?

Aragorn- Needs a low cost curve deck or Theodred to work.

Theodred- Usually useless

Gloin- Useless

Thorin- Dwarves

Dain- Dwarves

Imrahil- Eagles

Elrohir- Elladen

Boromir- Gondor

Balin- Oh yes!

Those are the Leadership heroes that I have anyway.

Theodred- Usually useless

You are super wrong.

Also Aragorn can work fine with just Steward funding his ability, but his high threat cost makes him not such a good candidate for splashing in. Looking further through the card pool thn I guess you have, we also have Sam Gamgee and the new Leadership Denethor who are great splashes.

Imrahil- Eagles

Imrahil also works great with Silvan, in a Galadriel & Eomer deck.

Would you mind posting a deck list or general plan for the deck, that sounds like an interesting concept

All that being said I personally do still use him in my decks and will not be removing him any time soon and it is purely because he allows me to run Arwen Elrond and him in a deck but remain at 27 starting threat and because of Asfaloth.

So all the reasons you said we don't need Glorfindel are all the reasons you keep playing him?

I think those are the reasons he said we did still need Glorfindel.

Personally I have very mixed feelings about Glorfindel and agree 100% with PsychoRocka on this. I don't actually like Glorfindel, but I need low threat and good location clearing. Many turns Glorfindel being ready after the questing phase is a waste, but to have Asfaloth makes it worth it. I think someone posted before suggesting that it would be better if Asfaloth gave everyone the same location clearing, but simply cost less to equip to Glorfindel and I think if that was how the card worked Glorfindel wouldn't be around nearly as much.

Edited by shosuko

I've been struggling to work Glorfindel into decks recently because he doesn't really do anything. Even when I use him as a starting point I tend to put him to one side after deciding on a general strategy, where other heroes inevitably combine better.

Imrahil also works great with Silvan, in a Galadriel & Eomer deck.

Would you mind posting a deck list or general plan for the deck, that sounds like an interesting concept

I put this together before RingsDB so I've tried to piece together what I remember from the deck. It may be off by a couple of cards from my original decklist, and like the notes say, it needs some tweaking. I'm a slightly lazy deck-builder, and if something is good enough to win, I'm not inclined to look for "win-more" sideboards.

http://ringsdb.com/decklist/view/1405/imrahil-the-elves-1.0