This discussion is already promoting ass hatterey in these forums..

Perhaps stop the elitist attitudes and accept that people come here for help. If you can't be bothered to click on someones post then don't. But don't promote that other people shouldn't either. What makes this game great is that the community isn't mostly elitist and that people are willing to help. Let's not turn this into some early form of 40K style I play but you shouldn't but I hate the manufacturer and wish I didn't play community please.

That being said some people could come up with more clear topics but those people are typically new to the forums and are the people who need the most help up front.

Your logic implies someone knows about the game and will disadvantage beginners. The concept of using titles like this seems a bit elitist to me. I hate click bait, but that's not a need to get anal about titles. The next step is that this will turn into a reason for people to justify not reading a thread. Just my two cents.

Oh he said it nicer than I did! Kudos!

People that are new to these forums that post vague titles would get more help if they accurately titled their threads. No one is clicking on them because they're vague. And since they're all pretty much vague, they all pretty much get 3 posts and die.

So do you disagree with my assertion that any of the example titles I listed are perfectly fine?

A set format seems needlessly complex, and isn't even appropriate for a lot of topics that might fit into this subforum. I mean, format if you want to, it's not hurting anyone, but to try and impose that as the proper way seems un-useful.

How am I going to 'impose' anything? These are just suggestions, meant to help new players get more eyes on their posts who will actually be interested enough to comment, and bring a bit of organization to this chaos.

Why is it elitist to say, "Naming your post Scum with a Side of Bugs, Yin-Yang List, Heavy Ghost, SLAM AND BOOM!!!, and so on isn't really helpful - if you put what's in your list in the title, and what the list is for, you'll have a higher chance of getting people who are interested in commenting on that list"? It just seems like common sense advice to me.

Or is this the kind of 'elitist' that people cry about when someone points out that Wedge isn't a very good ship, or that Expose is worse than Predator? Ya know, advice that actually comes from actually being, well, experienced, but that people don't want to hear?

Your logic implies someone knows about the game and will disadvantage beginners. The concept of using titles like this seems a bit elitist to me. I hate click bait, but that's not a need to get anal about titles. The next step is that this will turn into a reason for people to justify not reading a thread. Just my two cents.

Troll? Or not? Well, I'll treat it fairly.

Using a format like men would ensure that people who are interested in your post could find it, read it, and because they're actually interested in your topic would comment on it, rather than just skimming past it because it isn't descriptive.

It'd also keep people from going into click baity titles, reading the thread, and then shrugging it off as a waste of their precious forum time to comment.

it would save time all around, and would hardly be 'elitist'. How is it elitist to want clarity and get people who are interested in your topic to read it?

No, I'm not a troll, it's a genuine opinion. As I said, I also hate click bait, but I also don't like unnecessary rules.

I think all this discussion about titles is not that important. There's no real need for a "properly" formatted title, but some kind of description and thought in the title IS important.

For example "XYYZ", "tournament list", and "PalpAces" are not telling the reader anything.

I think any of the following titles provide enough information to tell forum browser what they need to know:

"Variant of Paul Heaver's Worlds list without TLTs"

"Help me make a good list with Poe and 3 Z-95s"

"A-wing/K-wing/K-wing squad to beat both Aces and Triple Scouts"

"[100 points][Regionals] Double Defenders squad, what are going to be my hardest matchups?"

"'Cheap Tricks' -a squad with as much underhanded Scum stuff as possible"

"Competitive Rebels: 2 Red Squadron Veterans, 2 Green Squadron Pilots"

I agree. I'm completely receptive of some general guidance to try and be descriptive in your title, but some formulaic equation using terminology that only experienced players understand is not a good idea in my opinion. I'm saying this as a new player. I don't know what most of those terms in the OP are. I'm not saying that the OP is trying to be elitist or anything, but this might have been an oversight.

Which terms are giving you trouble? The type of game identifiers: Epic, Tourney, or Casual (which seems pretty clear to me)?

It's probably PalpAces, which is why I included a listing of common archetypes at the end of my post - though that could be moved to the top if it's hard to read all the way through. Frankly, wouldn't it help noobs to know that there are established archetypes and what goes into them, like swarm lists, alpha strike lists, and so on, so they have a place to start thinking about list building?

Yes, the archetypes mainly. I disagree that they should learn all of these early. I think one of the best ways to learn is to experiment and not be led into what people think the current meta is. And frankly, someone may not care about the archetypes and shouldn't be forced to learn them.

So do you disagree with my assertion that any of the example titles I listed are perfectly fine?

A set format seems needlessly complex, and isn't even appropriate for a lot of topics that might fit into this subforum. I mean, format if you want to, it's not hurting anyone, but to try and impose that as the proper way seems un-useful.

How am I going to 'impose' anything? These are just suggestions, meant to help new players get more eyes on their posts who will actually be interested enough to comment, and bring a bit of organization to this chaos.

Why is it elitist to say, "Naming your post Scum with a Side of Bugs, Yin-Yang List, Heavy Ghost, SLAM AND BOOM!!!, and so on isn't really helpful - if you put what's in your list in the title, and what the list is for, you'll have a higher chance of getting people who are interested in commenting on that list"? It just seems like common sense advice to me.

Or is this the kind of 'elitist' that people cry about when someone points out that Wedge isn't a very good ship, or that Expose is worse than Predator? Ya know, advice that actually comes from actually being, well, experienced, but that people don't want to hear?

Again, no-one has said that people shouldn't be descriptive in their titles. However, it's unnecessary to make it formulaic. If it ever went down that road, then I would suggest they have a beginner area (probably not a bad idea anyway). I think it would be too intimidating for new players. You want things to be in the easiest way for you to digest them, I get that, but your proposed format is not reasonable for the general community. Regardless of that, people should be able to title their thread how they want, as long as it follows the general rules of the forum.

I completely understand and respect why you are annoyed by people who create threads with non-descriptive titles.

I hope you completely understand and respect why many of us are annoyed by people who create threads like this one.

I completely understand and respect why you are annoyed by people who create threads with non-descriptive titles.

I hope you completely understand and respect why many of us are annoyed by people who create threads like this one.

No, I don't understand or respect why many are annoyed by us trying to help.

"Hey, title your threads descriptively please. It's annoying and it would also help people new to the forums get more help when squad building."

"That's /elitist/. You don't tell ME how to title MY thread, I do what I WANT."

Well okay then, continue to wallow in this awful forum no one goes to besides for people with <150 posts and where every thread gets 3 responses and immediately dies.

Well okay then, continue to wallow in this awful forum no one goes to besides for people with <150 posts and where every thread gets 3 responses and immediately dies.

Paul Heaver only has 120 posts. Just sayin'.