Hey, I'm a Seattle Sounders fan. This Handegg stuff is about as coherent to me as the first 15 minutes of the Star Wars Holiday Special, the bit that's all in unsubbtitled Wookiee.

Hey, I'm a Seattle Sounders fan. This Handegg stuff is about as coherent to me as the first 15 minutes of the Star Wars Holiday Special, the bit that's all in unsubbtitled Wookiee.

Ahhh....and here I thought you were still under the affects of something you mentioned in another thread.

I had just watched the Seattle SEAHAWKS deliver a "massive beatdown" on the Detroit Lions. On Saturday also, by a second coincidence. I had to google the Sounders. Makes sense now I thought you were loopy. I don't know much about all of those games where the excitement is over a ball repeatedly going back and forth across a playing area and it does or does not go into a goal (soccer, basketball, hockey...pretty much all the same game in my opinion).

This article explains a lot about how the trailer was made and why we didn’t see many of these shots in the movie:

https://io9.gizmodo.com/why-the-rogue-one-trailers-most-iconic-shot-never-appea-1790910745?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+gizmodo%2Ffull+%28Gizmodo%29

As someone who absolutely loves Rogue One I do have one qualm with it. I think if you pay attention you can understand the characters for the most part after several viewings. There are character arcs for mostly everyone and despite what many claim there IS plenty of character development. With what we got I became fairly attached to the characters much more so then even some of the Rebels characters.

However we needed one scene or a couple of scenes, maybe five minutes at most, just before Scarrif that was on the Dropship and was the main characters just having a moment of conversation before the storm.

Basically we needed the Mass Effect ship moments between missions where the main character interacts with everyone for a few lines and we get some insight into the characters. If we had a five minute scene like that before Scarif and a five minute scene after Jedha then the movie would have been absolutely perfect. That said its telling my only complaint about Rogue One is that I wish there had been a little bit more.

What exactly happened to scarif and jedha? The didn't explode like alderaan, but their surfaces were clearly devastated nevertheless. Massive orbital bombardment?

What exactly happened to scarif and jedha? The didn't explode like alderaan, but their surfaces were clearly devastated nevertheless. Massive orbital bombardment?

I recall them saying something like, "Use only one firing chamber". The Death Star blowing up Alderaan is shown with several lasers combining into one powerful laser. I don't recall what this looked like in R1, but it obviously means much less power was used. The area around the Imperial base or Jedha City is going to be an utter ruin. Might make good settings for an RPG session. Perhaps an aspiring Jedi goes to the contaminated ruin of Jedha City hoping to find one of those orange containers under the ruin somehow, with a hardy kyber shard that survived?

The Rogue One prequel novel (Catalyst) gave some more details about the DS super weapon. EU already had the DS weapon powered by kyber crystals. The description in Catalyst suggested (to me) that the DS weapon was pretty much a giant lightsaber without a containment field. It's a giant version of a lightsaber with a blade that doesn't stop, thus it becomes more of a laser weapon.

Thus my next thought. What would happen if you disabled the containment field of a lightsaber? Could you turn it on and shoot a massive plasma bolt at your enemy? In an RPG you would of course need to add a negative such as it only shoots once and destroys the lightsaber or at least is critically damaged with a despair.

I recall them saying something like, "Use only one firing chamber".

They said “Use one reactor only”.

The Death Star blowing up Alderaan is shown with several lasers combining into one powerful laser. I don't recall what this looked like in R1, but it obviously means much less power was used.

It looked exactly the same, to me.

Maybe there was less power behind it, but the visual looked identical. Or, at least as identical as the VFX crew could get.

The area around the Imperial base or Jedha City is going to be an utter ruin.

From what I saw, what was Jedha City will be a crater, many miles wide. That blast probably won’t have reached down to the magma of the planet core below the surface, but it would have left the biggest hole possible that is short of that.

Imagine a picture of the earth, with a Texas-sized hole blasted out of it. Or maybe a hole the size of Australia.

For Scarif, since they appeared to hit mostly water, imagine the biggest Hydrogen Bomb explosion that you’ve ever seen, and then make it orders of magnitude bigger.

Might make good settings for an RPG session. Perhaps an aspiring Jedi goes to the contaminated ruin of Jedha City hoping to find one of those orange containers under the ruin somehow, with a hardy kyber shard that survived?

It’s the biggest laser in the galaxy. There won’t be any left over radiation, except for whatever might have been already on or in the planet, and then kicked up into the atmosphere by the explosion.

Pablo Hidalgo just said that what happened to Jedha and Scarif were not Alderann level events. So take what you will from that statement.

Tarkin even says something about not smashing the whole planet. "We want a statement, not a manifesto," or something like that. Alderaan was the manifesto.

IIRC, there's also something said about a cover story for the destruction of Jedha City.

Nuclear winter or asteroid strike kind of event type thing. Buncha debris blocking the sun, etc. Planet's still there, might even recover or be usable still, but the eco system is F-ed.

Nuclear winter or asteroid strike kind of event type thing. Buncha debris blocking the sun, etc. Planet's still there, might even recover or be usable still, but the eco system is F-ed.

Yup. It’s called an “Extinction-Level Event”.

But, this is Star Wars science. So in a Star Wars RPG (not 2300 AD or Transhuman Space) I would suggest thinking "what would be fun" before "what would be realistic".

While it's not the same scale and scope as a Death Star strike, here's a good idea how boned the ecosystem of Jedha is:

But, this is Star Wars science. So in a Star Wars RPG (not 2300 AD or Transhuman Space) I would suggest thinking "what would be fun" before "what would be realistic".

Or effective.

Did anyone else notice that the shot on Scarif actually hits the dish on the top of the transmission tower before continuing on to the surface in the distance. They aimed at that instead of the base of the tower... and hit! Not a bad Gunnery check there

Did anyone else notice that the shot on Scarif actually hits the dish on the top of the transmission tower before continuing on to the surface in the distance. They aimed at that instead of the base of the tower... and hit! Not a bad Gunnery check there

Yeah, I did notice that.

The first time I saw that scene, I thought that they had totally missed the base, which was supposed to be their target. But the strike was big enough that the shock/heat wave from the explosion still managed to wipe it out anyway, which was when Cassian and Jyn were vaporized.

On seeing that scene a second time, I noticed that they had actually hit the platform and dish, which was actually the most important target. If they had fired just a few seconds earlier, they would have stopped the transmission from having been made.

So, yeah — I guess they rolled a Triumph and also a Despair on that Gunnery check.

I think they actually missed - I mean, hitting a building from a small moon a hundred thousand miles away can't be easy (just think of the difference in silhouettes!). But pinpoint accuracy isn't needed when your boom is big enough - the shot was literally close enough for government work.

I am just amused that the Death Star's second shot in earnest killed Director Krennic.

What an interesting delimma - here we are, just about a month after release and I have a friend who has yet to see the movie. That in itself isnt that big of a deal, but she trips balls whenever anything even remotely spoiler comes up in conversation around her. Like how there's a CGI Leia and Tarkin (which, if you think about the movie for half a second, those two characters would have to show up at some point) or how you can now jump to hyperspace from in atmosphere.

So while I try and not be spoilerriffic, stuff does occasionally leak out and we cant actually discuss the movie around her. While this is an open and shut case of #firstworldproblems, man I wish she would get off her ass and see the **** thing.

What an interesting delimma - here we are, just about a month after release and I have a friend who has yet to see the movie. That in itself isnt that big of a deal, but she trips balls whenever anything even remotely spoiler comes up in conversation around her. Like how there's a CGI Leia and Tarkin (which, if you think about the movie for half a second, those two characters would have to show up at some point) or how you can now jump to hyperspace from in atmosphere.

So while I try and not be spoilerriffic, stuff does occasionally leak out and we cant actually discuss the movie around her. While this is an open and shut case of #firstworldproblems, man I wish she would get off her ass and see the **** thing.

F that. There was one guy at game nite that hadn't seen it either and we basically told him he had until CoB 2016. 2017 we weren't holding back anything anymore.

It might come to that. It's tough to be sympathetic 4 weeks on, especially since last Saturday I went with my mom and told her "Could you feed the cat. I'm off to see Star Wars" and the next words out of her mouth weren't "Hang on, let me get my coat."

Yah, 4 weeks, I'm sorry, that person has zero fan credentials in my eyes. She needs to go into deep shadow cover seclusion. I'd wear T-shirts with plot hooks on them at this point around her.....

Tell her she can leave anytime she doesn't want to be part of the conversation. Hey, she could even use that time to watch the movie.

Start complaining about how stupid it was to find out younger Boba was killed & replaced by Jyn Orso. Or how cool it was that Cassian revealed his real name was Biggs.

Tell her she can leave anytime she doesn't want to be part of the conversation. Hey, she could even use that time to watch the movie.

That is the answer right there.

What an interesting delimma - here we are, just about a month after release and I have a friend who has yet to see the movie. That in itself isnt that big of a deal, but she trips balls whenever anything even remotely spoiler comes up in conversation around her. Like how there's a CGI Leia and Tarkin (which, if you think about the movie for half a second, those two characters would have to show up at some point) or how you can now jump to hyperspace from in atmosphere.

So while I try and not be spoilerriffic, stuff does occasionally leak out and we cant actually discuss the movie around her. While this is an open and shut case of #firstworldproblems, man I wish she would get off her ass and see the **** thing.

F that. There was one guy at game nite that hadn't seen it either and we basically told him he had until CoB 2016. 2017 we weren't holding back anything anymore.

That's the only way to deal with the above situation.