Krennic being director of the ISB would be neat because all the rpg books including FFG say that the ISB has its own stormtrooper branch, who coincidentally wear black armor. That bit would become canon and make sense as Sturn says.
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- TIE Striker: I thought I read that the Striker is primarily an atmospheric fighter? Kept on planets to defend bases, but rarely, if ever, used on the fleet, and is mostly supplemental to the main TIE fighters. Maybe it has landing capabilities.
That makes sense. A ground support airpseeder for the Empire? We typically see TIE bombers for this in the EU, but an atmospheric airspeeder would make more sense especially for close support, not just dropping of large bombs. The body of the strike TIE does have some similarities to the TIE bomber. I would need to explain why we don't see it on Hoth? However, we didn't see TIE bombers either. It could be the precision close support vehicle of only the ISB? Or as simple as not being able to fly them through the Rebel shield?
Krennic being director of the ISB would be neat because all the rpg books including FFG say that the ISB has its own stormtrooper branch, who coincidentally wear black armor. That bit would become canon and make sense as Sturn says.
They have been pulling some things from the EU, so I hope so.
It would also tie things together to what we see in Episode IV, in my opinion. The ISB Director gets executed by the Emperor for his failure towards the end of Rogue One (oh man, spoiler alert, perhaps that is a cameo appearance of Vader?). The ISB has been shamed as failing in one of its core missions. Fast forward to Vader having to pickup where Krennic failed and pursue the Rebels. Then there is the meeting on the Death Star with Vader and Tarkin walking into the room where we see Krennic's 2nd in command sitting very quietly at the table, his white mustache quivering, as he contemplates whether he should be overjoyed at his sudden promotion.
- TIE Striker: I thought I read that the Striker is primarily an atmospheric fighter? Kept on planets to defend bases, but rarely, if ever, used on the fleet, and is mostly supplemental to the main TIE fighters. Maybe it has landing capabilities.
That makes sense. A ground support airpseeder for the Empire? We typically see TIE bombers for this in the EU, but an atmospheric airspeeder would make more sense especially for close support, not just dropping of large bombs. The body of the strike TIE does have some similarities to the TIE bomber. I would need to explain why we don't see it on Hoth? However, we didn't see TIE bombers either. It could be the precision close support vehicle of only the ISB? Or as simple as not being able to fly them through the Rebel shield?
Easy enough: if the Rebels were having difficulty adapting the speeders to the cold, stands to reason the same could apply to the TIE Striker.
- TIE Striker: I thought I read that the Striker is primarily an atmospheric fighter? Kept on planets to defend bases, but rarely, if ever, used on the fleet, and is mostly supplemental to the main TIE fighters. Maybe it has landing capabilities.
That makes sense. A ground support airpseeder for the Empire? We typically see TIE bombers for this in the EU, but an atmospheric airspeeder would make more sense especially for close support, not just dropping of large bombs. The body of the strike TIE does have some similarities to the TIE bomber. I would need to explain why we don't see it on Hoth? However, we didn't see TIE bombers either. It could be the precision close support vehicle of only the ISB? Or as simple as not being able to fly them through the Rebel shield?
Easy enough: if the Rebels were having difficulty adapting the speeders to the cold, stands to reason the same could apply to the TIE Striker.
And the Empire doesn't have the time the rebels had to implement modifications for the cold
It would also tie things together to what we see in Episode IV, in my opinion. The ISB Director gets executed by the Emperor for his failure towards the end of Rogue One (oh man, spoiler alert, perhaps that is a cameo appearance of Vader?). The ISB has been shamed as failing in one of its core missions. Fast forward to Vader having to pickup where Krennic failed and pursue the Rebels. Then there is the meeting on the Death Star with Vader and Tarkin walking into the room where we see Krennic's 2nd in command sitting very quietly at the table, his white mustache quivering, as he contemplates whether he should be overjoyed at his sudden promotion.
That would be Wulf Yularen from Episode 4 (and TCW) right? I love the idea!
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- TIE Striker: I thought I read that the Striker is primarily an atmospheric fighter? Kept on planets to defend bases, but rarely, if ever, used on the fleet, and is mostly supplemental to the main TIE fighters. Maybe it has landing capabilities.
That makes sense. A ground support airpseeder for the Empire? We typically see TIE bombers for this in the EU, but an atmospheric airspeeder would make more sense especially for close support, not just dropping of large bombs. The body of the strike TIE does have some similarities to the TIE bomber. I would need to explain why we don't see it on Hoth? However, we didn't see TIE bombers either. It could be the precision close support vehicle of only the ISB? Or as simple as not being able to fly them through the Rebel shield?
Source: http://io9.gizmodo.com/star-wars-is-adding-some-gorgeous-new-ships-for-rogue-o-1783721583
Description: A plaque describing the TIE Striker from Rogue One: "A streamlined variant of the classic TIE fighter design, the TIE striker is designed for atmospheric patrols over important Imperial ground-based installations. The versatile
design can also soar in space, where it can accompany traditional TIE fighters in chasing down enemy strships."
So, not an airspeeder but a full on Starfighter that is purpose built to enter atmospheres to support ground troops? For game purposes probably better in an atmosphere then a TIE/ln but crappier in space?
Canon Bothans appear as they do in the EU.
Older EU. Which is kinda interesting. Looks like Filoni likes the old WEG material...
Caption: old WEG illustration of bothans looking like hairy elves.
Edited by GhostofmanCultural cliches happen. We have plenty of them in our own world. Why wouldn't they have them in the Star Wars universe? As outside viewers we know a lot more about this universe than its inhabitants. Just because Bothans are labelled as being spies doesn't make all of them spies, just as a culture labelled as criminals aren't all criminals or one that is labelled mathematically inclined aren't all mathematicians. The worlds of Star Wars are a huge melting pot of cultures and species.
I always just figured they were the planet where the thing was built or designed or something and it was just that circumstance that led to them making the sacrifice. Not a racial thing just wrong/right place, wrong/right time.
Just because Bothans are labelled as being spies doesn't make all of them spies, just as a culture labelled as criminals aren't all criminals or one that is labelled mathematically inclined aren't all mathematicians.
That's just what the Bothans want you to believe...
Kylo Ren reacts to Rogue One trailer 2, by the Auralnauts.
So, not an airspeeder but a full on Starfighter that is purpose built to enter atmospheres to support ground troops? For game purposes probably better in an atmosphere then a TIE/ln but crappier in space?
It probably needs more support than a normal TIE fighter, so while it could be called up to serve in a more standard starfighter capacity during an emergency, the Empire prefers to keep the Striker as a defensive craft. Stat-wise, it could just be a slightly less powerful or robust TIE fighter, maybe the equivalent of a Z-95 to an X-wing.
It may just be a simple thing like the TIE/ln being the one Navy ships are equipped to support while this new one is assigned to planetary garrisons. It's not like the Navy and Air Force have always used the same designs IRL.
It may just be a simple thing like the TIE/ln being the one Navy ships are equipped to support while this new one is assigned to planetary garrisons. It's not like the Navy and Air Force have always used the same designs IRL.
That makes sense. Especially given that I just read on Wookieepedia (which cites Star Wars Rebels: Head to Head) that the Striker is faster and two extra laser cannons.
- TIE Striker: I thought I read that the Striker is primarily an atmospheric fighter? Kept on planets to defend bases, but rarely, if ever, used on the fleet, and is mostly supplemental to the main TIE fighters. Maybe it has landing capabilities.
That makes sense. A ground support airpseeder for the Empire? We typically see TIE bombers for this in the EU, but an atmospheric airspeeder would make more sense especially for close support, not just dropping of large bombs. The body of the strike TIE does have some similarities to the TIE bomber. I would need to explain why we don't see it on Hoth? However, we didn't see TIE bombers either. It could be the precision close support vehicle of only the ISB? Or as simple as not being able to fly them through the Rebel shield?
Easy enough: if the Rebels were having difficulty adapting the speeders to the cold, stands to reason the same could apply to the TIE Striker.
Anything that flies in space can't have issues with cold. Space is a little bit colder than even an ice planet
- TIE Striker: I thought I read that the Striker is primarily an atmospheric fighter? Kept on planets to defend bases, but rarely, if ever, used on the fleet, and is mostly supplemental to the main TIE fighters. Maybe it has landing capabilities.
That makes sense. A ground support airpseeder for the Empire? We typically see TIE bombers for this in the EU, but an atmospheric airspeeder would make more sense especially for close support, not just dropping of large bombs. The body of the strike TIE does have some similarities to the TIE bomber. I would need to explain why we don't see it on Hoth? However, we didn't see TIE bombers either. It could be the precision close support vehicle of only the ISB? Or as simple as not being able to fly them through the Rebel shield?
Easy enough: if the Rebels were having difficulty adapting the speeders to the cold, stands to reason the same could apply to the TIE Striker.
Anything that flies in space can't have issues with cold. Space is a little bit colder than even an ice planet
On the flip side, in space, you have only radiatiative cooling, not convective or conductive.
IIRC, the speeders they were using on Hoth had BIG passive air cooling, and were losing too much heat to ultra-cold environment compared to temperate and hot worlds (see, all the little fins and slots on the surfaces around the engine). That same system could easily overheat in a vacuum, as there would be no air to absorb and carry the heat away.
Edited by MaxKilljoyHoth had an atmosphere plus extreme cold which I imagine could cause more problems then just extreme cold?
It is a misconception that space is cold.
Space is a vacuum and has no temperature...
Hoth had an atmosphere plus extreme cold which I imagine could cause more problems then just extreme cold?
That's... pretty much what I said. 
The point is that a "cold" vacuum is not the same as a cold atmosphere. Vacuum is a pretty good insulator, actually -- that's why some thermoses have a vacuum layer between the inner and outer walls.
Edited by MaxKilljoyShoretrooper: Obviously a Stormtrooper. Canon references include it is seen defending "bunkers and beaches", thus the name. It's also seen inside the Assault Tank as its crew, but its name suggests its not just another vehicle crewman.
This is the hardest one for me. I hope it makes more sense down the road as we get more information, but I still have some speculations that could work? As said above, it seems its not just a Stormtrooper vehicle crewman. I hope not. We already have 3 versions with the AT-AT driver, TIE pilot, and AT-ST driver. Of course it could easily be explained away as crew for the Assault Tank only, but it's called a "Shoretrooper" for "bunkers and beaches", not a "Hovertank Driver".
I'm not sure how I have been missing this, but the "shoretrooper" is not the same trooper we see in the new hover tank.
So, we ARE getting another vehicle crewman. So for Imperial surface vehicles we have seen the AT-AT driver (a stormtrooper), the AT-ST driver (many interpretations of what they are from Army to just a generic crewman), and now a tank driver (stormtrooper). The shoretrooper seems to at least be related to the tank driver. The chest armor seems to be the same and their helmets may be the same models with different accessories? Or just saving a buck on prop making? The coloring for the shoretrooper armor is also slightly different. The tank driver is the usual white, but the shoretrooper has a shade which can range from off-white to tan depending on the picture you look at.
Edited by SturnMesa justin gonna leavin dis here:
