The Spoilerrific Super Duper Rogue One Megathread!

By Desslok, in Star Wars: Edge of the Empire RPG

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Yeah, I think she is an Imperial Officer.

In the old EU/Legacy stuff Biggs Darklighter was at the Imperial Acedemy. The same place that Luke wanted to go in ANH.

Well, at the Acedemy Biggs met a bunch of like minded, free thinking people, and when he got to his first duty station, a ship called the Rand Ecliptic, their was a mutiny on her. Most of the crew turned on the Imps, and joined the Rebellion.

So I'm wondering if they are going to use any of that for this movie. In ANH Luke says that Biggs went to the Acedemy, so I wonder if they are going to explain how he got to Yavin, if that is even him, which I'm sure it is. But I was sure that Jakku was a town on Tatoonie, not just another desert wasteland planet...

In some of the promo shots, you can see one guy who is crouching down, and he has the Imperial Cog on his shoulder as well. The back packs in that shot are the same ones from Hoth, just black, not white. So I think we are going to be seeing a lot of former Imps in this movie.

Remember that Mon Mothma is an Imperial Senator, and at the start of the movie the Imperial Senate is still together. I wonder if in the movie it will be disbanded, like they mention in ANH. Perhaps that is why she ran to Yavin?

Also, Jimmy Smitts as Bail Organa one last time!!!! Perhaps, him hugging Carrie Fishers daughter, and saying good luck Leia, see you soon as she boards a Corvette!!!

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Meh. If some of my friends watch it and like it, and I don't hear the kind of reviews that put me off from watching TFA, then I *MIGHT* see it. Maybe. But from this trailer, I'm expecting another Mary Sue, so chances are I won't be watching this one, either, and there will continue to be THREE Star Wars movies.

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And I highly doubt they named him Thrawn. In the EU/lore Timeline Thrawn was not yet a Grand Admiral at ANH, and Disney is really trying to stay away from the old Star Wars Lore.

Also, not blue.

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New droid character I am thinking, which is cool.

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  • If Vader shows up I imagine it will be at the end as he chases after the information transferred to Leia's ship.

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Unfortunately, it looks like the movie is trying to be "edgy."

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I personally am not leaping to any conclusions about tone or personality, because there certainly may be more prophetic people here than me, but I sure as hell didn't see it coming that the ex-stormtrooper would be the 'funny one' in TFA.

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I think any movie tries to be something. How well that translates to good or bad movie remains to be seen and is always subjective. I don't see how that is a good or bad thing.

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There are some red flags that a trailer can send up - especially a poorly edited one (I'm looking at you, Ghostbusters 2016). I knew that Batman vs Superman was going to be a piece of ****, but that was a culmination of terrible precedent (Man of Steel was also a complete piece of ****), a clueless director who would shoot off his mouth off about stupid stuff all the time, a writer who actively dislikes superhero movies, and then of course all of this more or less confirmed with a trailer.

I'm not getting that vibe here. I like Gareth Edwards when he did Godzilla (and I've been a Godzilla fan ALL my life) and I thought Monsters was pretty strong, Disney has done all right by the Marvel movies, and the trailer hit all the right "Star Wars" beats without leaning heavy on the Nostalgia Button that E7 did. We should be good here, people!

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I'm cautiously optimistic about this movie. I was willing to go full-fanboy for TFA since it was a main sequence movie and Disney would be wanting to put their best foot forward for it. (For the record, I was not disappointed. TFA had its flaws, and this is not the thread to be discussing them, but I enjoyed and continue to enjoy it.) Rogue One is a side project, and I'm sure it's the best they can do under consideration for making a profit, but it's a new thing which may or may not be worth the emotional investment to the people who pull the strings.

That said.

I'm a huge fan of stylistic interpretation of a shared universe, and while this teaser doesn't put that front-and-center (with the possible exceptions of the new trooper designs) it does show promise in that direction. I'm sure the full trailer at Celebration (because when else) will prove it out. I'm a big fan of Edwards's Godzilla , having been a die-hard Heisei-era Godzilla fan as a kid, and aside from a slight reservation about Jyn's "middle finger to authority" attitude being difficult to write in a team situation that comes from my experience as a GM, this trailer pleases me in all the right ways.

And if that's not Biggs, I'm going to cry.

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I'm cautiously optimistic about this movie. I was willing to go full-fanboy for TFA since it was a main sequence movie and Disney would be wanting to put their best foot forward for it. (For the record, I was not disappointed. TFA had its flaws, and this is not the thread to be discussing them, but I enjoyed and continue to enjoy it.) Rogue One is a side project, and I'm sure it's the best they can do under consideration for making a profit, but it's a new thing which may or may not be worth the emotional investment to the people who pull the strings.

Rob Bricken had an observation about how Rogue One is just as important to Star Wars as E7 was - if not moreso. I'll put it in spoilers not because of spoilers, but because it's kind of long - but it tangentially addresses that thought.

The Force Awakens was a huge milestone: the first continuation of the Star Wars movie saga since 1983's Return of the Jedi . But the upcoming Rogue One is just as important to the future of Star Wars, if not more so.

There’s a lot riding on Rogue One ’s X-Wings. The first stand-alone story in Disney’s revitalized Star Wars movie machine, premiering on December 16, is going to be different from the other seven episodes in the franchise for a lot of reasons—and its success or failure could have a major, permanent impact on all Star Wars movies yet to come.

Minor spoilers ahead...

In the very unlikely event you don’t know, Rogue One is about a group of Rebellion pilots who are tasked with getting the plans for original Death Star—the plans Princess Leia gave to R2-D2 in A New Hope . It’s been described both a heist movie and as a war movie, which means it’s going to be the first Star Wars movie with a specific theme to it beyond its general “space fantasy” aegis. Presumably, this will also be the first Star Wars movie not to include a Jedi (or possibly even anyone with Force sensitivity). Perhaps most importantly, it’s going to be the first Star Wars film without a Skywalker at its center.

And that’s the question: Are audiences ready for Star Wars s ans Skywalkers? Given the current international appetite for all thing from a galaxy far, far away, right now I am certain people are more than willing to take a chance to find out. I also have zero doubt that ticket sales for the first weekend will be amazing, and that the movie will turn a profit. But that’s doesn’t mean the movie will be enjoyed. If ticket sales drop precipitously after the first weekend, or word-of-mouth turns bad—or, basically, if this movie sucks— Rogue One may make a profit, but it will also make audiences much more wary of all the other Star Wars s tories Disney plans on churning out until the world ends.

A relative failure wouldn’t stop Disney from making more standalone Star Wars films, but the next spin-off on the slate is a young Han Solo movie; after that, the movies that are most often rumored to follow include solo adventures for Boba Fett and Obi-Wan Kenobi. Mining the histories of these well-known, beloved characters is smart and obvious. But it’s also kind of a bummer to think that the Star Wars movies are going to perennially stick to the same dozen or so characters, when there’s literally an entire galaxy to explore.

This is why Rogue One is so important. Sure, it links directly to A New Hope , so audiences do understand the stakes immediately and easily. But other than a rumored appearance by Darth Vader, this movie stars an entirely new group of heroes, with an entirely new battle against the Empire. Getting a more in-depth view of the Rebellion—and getting to see just how desperate its fight against the Empire was in the heights of its tyrannical power—would be fascinating enough. But the chance to see, on the big screen, what life in the Star Wars universe is like for regular people, people who don’t hang out with ultra-powerful space-wizards, is even more enticing.

This movie has the potential to give us a wider view of the Star Wars universe than we’ve ever seen before—literally an entire universe full of stories Lucasfilm and Disney could tell. There could be countless heroes and villains out there, who are just as cool as Han Solo or as terrifying as Darth Vader, but we’ll never know, unless someone gets to tell their stories. There are other battles against the Empire, other foes to vanquish, other adventures to be had, and surely some of them have to be more interesting than giving us a bit of back-story on characters we already know pretty well. (Han Solo may be one thing, but every part we know of Boba Fett’s life prior to Empire Strikes Back was dumb, and we’re all very aware that Jedi used to be assholes. I do not actually need more Fett or Obi-Wan in my Star Wars movies.)

Rogue One is a first step into this larger world. But if the movie doesn’t perform to its expectations, both financial and critical, Disney is almost certainly going to step right back, and concentrate solely on established Star Wars characters for its future stand-alone films. This is hardly the worst fate in the world, to be sure—but what an opportunity would be missed!

The reason most of us fell in love with Star Wars in the first place is that it felt real. All those little details—the fact that vehicles looked used, the allusions to the past, the countless aliens you saw once and never again—made it feel like countless things were happening not just off-screen, but all around the galaxy. This sense that every character, seen or unseen, has his/her/its own agency, life, goals, whatever, is what made this elaborate, epic story about a family of space wizards seem real. I am completely confident when I say that a great deal of Star Wars ’ enduring appeal comes from its near-miraculous ability to make the unreal seem so real .

Rogue One has the opportunity (maybe onus is a better word) to realize this fundamental quality of the Star Wars universe on screen—to attempt to see if the depth that has always seemed a part of the franchise is in fact real, or merely an illusion. The answer depends entirely on the fate of this first stand-alone film, and thus it will shape the future of the Star Wars movies far more than the Force itself. Are the pilots of Rogue One up for this integral mission? I’m sure they’re standing by.

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Unfortunately, it looks like the movie is trying to be "edgy."

A thing that could be said about your post too...

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I want an official high res still from him.

Best I could grab right now.

What a badass.

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Thrawn confirmed?

I thought the white uniforms were ISB. Yularen wore that uniform on the Death Star.

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I'm really pleased. I like the tone quite a bit. It reminds me of an old WWII movie. They gave just the right amount of information. I don't know who any of these people are yet, and I'm happy that way.

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@Doc. EU/Legends had the Grand Admirals wearing white. Non that I know ever appeared in anything actually canon though. You are correct on Yularen being a ISB agent present in the Death Star. I'm betting this guy is a top ISB agent sent to wipe these traitirs/rebels/recover stolen plans. I can't see a Grand Admiral walking around in the mud getting his cape and boots muddy.

I am really digging the look and feel of it. I really hope that Biggs has..uh..a bigger part, so that his (SPOILER ALERT) death in ANH really has a lot more weight to it.

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I want an official high res still from him.

Best I could grab right now.

What a badass.

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Thrawn confirmed?

I thought the white uniforms were ISB. Yularen wore that uniform on the Death Star.

Maybe Admiral Yularen will be promotes to Grand Admiral then, and they are changing things up.

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My WMGs:

1: Jyn is Ren's mother. Diego Luna's character may possibly be the father.

2: The 'grand admiral' isn't a grand admiral, he's running an ISB unit. May still be a Grand Admiral, but he's a counter-intelligence officer, not a soldier or politician.

3: Forest Whitaker is a Mandarian. If he isn't, then Jiang Wen's character is.

4: No full fledged Jedi, but Donnie Yen is some sort of jedi exile - perhaps an ex-padawan or an actual jedi who gave up his lightsaber. At the very least, he is this movies token force sensitive.

5: The kneeling figure is an Inquisitor, and is kneeling to Darth Vader. I can see Donnie Yen's character being the kneeler, before/after some sort of betrayal.

6: The stormtroopers on the tank are clone troopers (you can never quite see their helmets, but don't they look like they're closer to that classic T shape?)

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6: The stormtroopers on the tank are clone troopers (you can never quite see their helmets, but don't they look like they're closer to that classic T shape?)

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Not really, no. What they look like is a base like a standard stormtrooper helmet but with a component on the forehead for a retractable visor like the old Vietnam/Korea flight helmets used in the original trilogy on TIE and AT-AT drivers.

Most likely these guys are just supposed to be in armor designed for vehicle crewmen. If you look at other clips you'll note that it appears the director is expanding the usual stormtrooper design to include new armor type and accessories, since we also see things like scout troopers with green armor that's similar, but not identical to the dudes we seen in Kashyyyk in EPIII:

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Also these troopers have big long antennas on their packs:

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And there's the blacktroopers with the buttface mouth... so probably less "Return of the Clones", and more "Star Wars Age of Rebellion Imperial Might: A Sourcebook for Stormtroopers."

Which is still pretty cool....

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6: The stormtroopers on the tank are clone troopers (you can never quite see their helmets, but don't they look like they're closer to that classic T shape?)

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Not really, no. What they look like is a base like a standard stormtrooper helmet but with a component on the forehead for a retractable visor like the old Vietnam/Korea flight helmets used in the original trilogy on TIE and AT-AT drivers.

Most likely these guys are just supposed to be in armor designed for vehicle crewmen. If you look at other clips you'll note that it appears the director is expanding the usual stormtrooper design to include new armor type and accessories, since we also see things like scout troopers with green armor that's similar, but not identical to the dudes we seen in Kashyyyk in EPIII:

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Also these troopers have big long antennas on their packs:

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And there's the blacktroopers with the buttface mouth... so probably less "Return of the Clones", and more "Star Wars Age of Rebellion Imperial Might: A Sourcebook for Stormtroopers."

Which is still pretty cool....

I was thinking kind of the same thing about the helmets. Like maybe it has vehicle status (engine temp, various pressures, etc) as well as target info displayed on it, and they only use it when buttoned up, hence it being on the forehead in that scene.

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They drive tanks.......which is cool.......I need no more information......

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They drive tanks.......which is cool.......I need no more information......

"Drive me closer, I want to hit them with my lightsaber." - 2P51

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Come to think of it, seeing as the plot is going to be stealing the DS plans, I wonder if the movie is going to be a Seven Samurai -like 'building a team' film.

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Come to think of it, seeing as the plot is going to be stealing the DS plans, I wonder if the movie is going to be a Seven Samurai -like 'building a team' film.

I'm not sure where I read it, but I do recall reading somewhere that it's akin to a "Dirty Dozen"-style ensemble.