But he's not required not to be here.

Cheers

Baaa

What he is doing is essentially barging in to a conversation being held in a private sound proof room and telling everyone to shut up because he doesn't like what they are talking about. Also we can all see you name above your icon beside each post, you don't need to sign each one like its some kind of work of art.

Don't make me defend the sheep the universe is already on the verge of collapse because we agreed recently.

But he's not required not to be here.

Cheers

Baaa

What he is doing is essentially barging in to a conversation being held in a private sound proof room and telling everyone to shut up because he doesn't like what they are talking about. Also we can all see you name above your icon beside each post, you don't need to sign each one like its some kind of work of art.

Don't make me defend the sheep the universe is already on the verge of collapse because we agreed recently.

I think you're lying.

What kind of evidence do you have to support your claim of impending universal collapse?

But he's not required not to be here.

Cheers

Baaa

What he is doing is essentially barging in to a conversation being held in a private sound proof room and telling everyone to shut up because he doesn't like what they are talking about. Also we can all see you name above your icon beside each post, you don't need to sign each one like its some kind of work of art.

Don't make me defend the sheep the universe is already on the verge of collapse because we agreed recently.

I think you're lying.

What kind of evidence do you have to support your claim of impending universal collapse?

Any further evidence needed?

But he's not required not to be here.

Cheers

Baaa

What he is doing is essentially barging in to a conversation being held in a private sound proof room and telling everyone to shut up because he doesn't like what they are talking about. Also we can all see you name above your icon beside each post, you don't need to sign each one like its some kind of work of art.

Pretty certain this is a thread that anyone can post in.

Cheers

Baaa

But he's not required not to be here.

Cheers

Baaa

What he is doing is essentially barging in to a conversation being held in a private sound proof room and telling everyone to shut up because he doesn't like what they are talking about. Also we can all see you name above your icon beside each post, you don't need to sign each one like its some kind of work of art.

I bet you don't even realise how absurd that post is. A private soundproof room?

Pretty certain this is a thread that anyone can post in.

Cheers

Baaa

Yes but no one is forced to read what is said here so my analogy stands as he entered the thread, read it by choice, then basically told everyone to stop talking instead of just leaving the thread.

But he's not required not to be here.

Cheers

Baaa

What he is doing is essentially barging in to a conversation being held in a private sound proof room and telling everyone to shut up because he doesn't like what they are talking about. Also we can all see you name above your icon beside each post, you don't need to sign each one like its some kind of work of art.

Don't make me defend the sheep the universe is already on the verge of collapse because we agreed recently.

Twice.

Cheers

Baaa

But he's not required not to be here.

Cheers

Baaa

What he is doing is essentially barging in to a conversation being held in a private sound proof room and telling everyone to shut up because he doesn't like what they are talking about. Also we can all see you name above your icon beside each post, you don't need to sign each one like its some kind of work of art.

Don't make me defend the sheep the universe is already on the verge of collapse because we agreed recently.

I think you're lying.

What kind of evidence do you have to support your claim of impending universal collapse?

This made me so happy

But he's not required not to be here.

Cheers

Baaa

What he is doing is essentially barging in to a conversation being held in a private sound proof room and telling everyone to shut up because he doesn't like what they are talking about. Also we can all see you name above your icon beside each post, you don't need to sign each one like its some kind of work of art.

Don't make me defend the sheep the universe is already on the verge of collapse because we agreed recently.

I think you're lying.

What kind of evidence do you have to support your claim of impending universal collapse?

This made me so happy

I don't believe this, either.

I'm surprised we didn't get this thread locked way earlier, but this page has been a happy one for me. Odd and strange, but happy!

Hmm... and somewhere in this wild odyssey, I passed the 1,000 post marker.

But he's not required not to be here.

Cheers

Baaa

What he is doing is essentially barging in to a conversation being held in a private sound proof room and telling everyone to shut up because he doesn't like what they are talking about. Also we can all see you name above your icon beside each post, you don't need to sign each one like its some kind of work of art.

I bet you don't even realise how absurd that post is. A private soundproof room?

Pretty certain this is a thread that anyone can post in.

Cheers

Baaa

Yes but no one is forced to read what is said here so my analogy stands as he entered the thread, read it by choice, then basically told everyone to stop talking instead of just leaving the thread.

Cheers

Baaa

I'm surprised we didn't get this thread locked way earlier, but this page has been a happy one for me. Odd and strange, but happy!

Hmm... and somewhere in this wild odyssey, I passed the 1,000 post marker.

Cheers

Baaa

Ouch, don't blow a gasket, let the guy sign his name if he wants to gosh.

I'm just tied of people being pedantic and attempting to stop people from talking about this rather then actually engaging in the discussion. If you are going to disagree with me tell me so and explain why don't try to prevent the discussion from being talked about through diversion or making a scene. ..Though that was a petty shot on my part I'll admit, sorry this is just a very sensitive and important topic to me and its frustrating that people seem so determined to shut it down.

For what it's worth, you're welcome to come to the tournaments I'm TOing and verify that I present as female. It's okay to be skeptical however.. you know... it costs you nothing to not be a jerk. Not saying you have been. Just being general.

Not sure if anyone has commented on this (I'll admit to not readying EVERY post on the thread) but I find it equal parts sad, ironic and distracting that HurricaneMaanen's avatar is basically a down-blouse shot.

While I'm guessing this is a female character in some game which she enjoys, it's a pretty blatant indictment that the gaming industry has a ways to go before we can get strong female characters without having to sexualize them.

(Not meant to be a shot at you personally; please do not take it as such)

But he's not required not to be here.

Cheers

Baaa

What he is doing is essentially barging in to a conversation being held in a private sound proof room and telling everyone to shut up because he doesn't like what they are talking about. Also we can all see you name above your icon beside each post, you don't need to sign each one like its some kind of work of art.

hahahahahahahahaha

This thread, the gift that keeps on giving.

Not sure if anyone has commented on this (I'll admit to not readying EVERY post on the thread) but I find it equal parts sad, ironic and distracting that HurricaneMaanen's avatar is basically a down-blouse shot.

This is absolute nonsense from every perspective.

For what it's worth, you're welcome to come to the tournaments I'm TOing and verify that I present as female. It's okay to be skeptical however.. you know... it costs you nothing to not be a jerk. Not saying you have been. Just being general.

Not sure if anyone has commented on this (I'll admit to not readying EVERY post on the thread) but I find it equal parts sad, ironic and distracting that HurricaneMaanen's avatar is basically a down-blouse shot.

While I'm guessing this is a female character in some game which she enjoys, it's a pretty blatant indictment that the gaming industry has a ways to go before we can get strong female characters without having to sexualize them.

(Not meant to be a shot at you personally; please do not take it as such)

It's a character from the Arkham Horror line of games.

For what it's worth, you're welcome to come to the tournaments I'm TOing and verify that I present as female. It's okay to be skeptical however.. you know... it costs you nothing to not be a jerk. Not saying you have been. Just being general.

Not sure if anyone has commented on this (I'll admit to not readying EVERY post on the thread) but I find it equal parts sad, ironic and distracting that HurricaneMaanen's avatar is basically a down-blouse shot.

While I'm guessing this is a female character in some game which she enjoys, it's a pretty blatant indictment that the gaming industry has a ways to go before we can get strong female characters without having to sexualize them.

(Not meant to be a shot at you personally; please do not take it as such)

It's a character from the Arkham Horror line of games.

Also, hey guys, remember when someone posted about being assaulted and what really matters is that she has a female avatar on a forum that (as far as I can tell) doesn't let you have custom avatars, because its distracting?

Rabble rabble.

Have not read the last 29 pages but has anyone pointed out that the reason there are few women playing this game is because, as my wife would say, its just a sill game with plastic things and dice and its not that intresting?

If that would objectively true than males should not be interested in their plastic crack either. I object your theory that women are just to smart for dumb male hobbies!

The game is interesting, it comes with star wars toys, star wars is awesome. So the game is alone for the models awesome.

It sounds like your lucky enough not to be married and you have never seen the eye rolls and here the grown every time star wars in mentioned.

but I do the same every time she talks about her scrap booking stuff. I never knew how many different colours paper comes in

16 years together now, my wife brought me into X-Wing, my Age of Rebellion GM is buying the X-Wing Mini's as well and she is quite often trying to mansplaine videogames to me, because she has not noticed that I am a core gamer yet. ;-)

Now your just making me cry

For what it's worth, you're welcome to come to the tournaments I'm TOing and verify that I present as female. It's okay to be skeptical however.. you know... it costs you nothing to not be a jerk. Not saying you have been. Just being general.

Not sure if anyone has commented on this (I'll admit to not readying EVERY post on the thread) but I find it equal parts sad, ironic and distracting that HurricaneMaanen's avatar is basically a down-blouse shot.

While I'm guessing this is a female character in some game which she enjoys, it's a pretty blatant indictment that the gaming industry has a ways to go before we can get strong female characters without having to sexualize them.

(Not meant to be a shot at you personally; please do not take it as such)

It's a character from the Arkham Horror line of games.

Also, hey guys, remember when someone posted about being assaulted and what really matters is that she has a female avatar on a forum that (as far as I can tell) doesn't let you have custom avatars, because its distracting?

Rabble rabble.

Sorry you took it that way. That was never my intent.

Obviously what happened to you is not to be taken lightly. I appreciate the fact that you've gone thru an awful experience and you actually have my empathy.

My point was it's a bit sad that someone such as yourself who is obviously passionate about gaming and has dealt with such crap has to deal with the objectification of women in a hobby that you so love. Heck, I think it's sad that *I* have to deal with it as I'd much rather my daughters have the ability to identify with strong female characters without dealing with sexual objectification.

For what it's worth, you're welcome to come to the tournaments I'm TOing and verify that I present as female. It's okay to be skeptical however.. you know... it costs you nothing to not be a jerk. Not saying you have been. Just being general.

Not sure if anyone has commented on this (I'll admit to not readying EVERY post on the thread) but I find it equal parts sad, ironic and distracting that HurricaneMaanen's avatar is basically a down-blouse shot.

While I'm guessing this is a female character in some game which she enjoys, it's a pretty blatant indictment that the gaming industry has a ways to go before we can get strong female characters without having to sexualize them.

(Not meant to be a shot at you personally; please do not take it as such)

It's a character from the Arkham Horror line of games.

Also, hey guys, remember when someone posted about being assaulted and what really matters is that she has a female avatar on a forum that (as far as I can tell) doesn't let you have custom avatars, because its distracting?

Rabble rabble.

Sorry you took it that way. That was never my intent.

Obviously what happened to you is not to be taken lightly. I appreciate the fact that you've gone thru an awful experience and you actually have my empathy.

My point was it's a bit sad that someone such as yourself who is obviously passionate about gaming and has dealt with such crap has to deal with the objectification of women in a hobby that you so love.

Sorry I didn't meant to get so angry. I just realized that was upset that I had people from the beginning of the thread discounting my experiencing, demanding proof, and I finally gave as much proof as I could bear to over an Internet forum and it went completely ignored because it made people uncomfortable. I'm sorry. You kind of got bit by the knee jerk reaction that caused me to realize that what I say truly doesn't matter and that's such a tough realization when you're trying to help someone.

Sorry again. Went on a tangent.

It is sad that the female representation in gaming is alright as best. I have hope it'll get better though.

Reading through the 30+ pages of comments I find a lot of the attitudes of most posters expressing a lot of self hate. This is problem is a sign most modern white males disempowerment and confusion over what it means to be a man. As an older gamer I can honestly say that MEN are NOT the problem in model war gaming. Girls and women are simply interested in other things. At my local gaming centre you can see it clearly with the male's at one end and petering out towards the females at the other end the only real mixing going on around the card and co-op gaming areas.

The role playing area is divided in two with one group mostly girls with the od boyfriend or husband and the other group all boys with the od girlfriend/wife. and the 2 games being played are vastly different.

Is Simple :-

GIRL's prefer Co-Op games or competitive games where the violence is nonspecific (like magic)

Boys prefer Model war games or competitive games

there are exceptions I know several woman young and old who will kick your ass at war-hammer.

LOL.

That is satiric comment, right?

Believe it or not, board gaming, miniatures etc. are not the social norm still (I know I am really shaking it up now) many men are still "ashamed" or "embarrassed" to even walk into a game store, let alone play something regularly, so it should come as no surprise that it would be hard for women to do. Heck our game store tried a women's game night and no one showed.

So no it is not strange, I am sure there might be more as time goes on, but to simply yell sexism because there are no women is asinine.

For real? If that is the case in your area than no matter who nice you guys are you will have indeed trouble to get woman into stores. Yet it is completely outlandish to me. Oo

OP was making a statement disguised as a question. That never ends well.

Sorry I didn't meant to get so angry. I just realized that was upset that I had people from the beginning of the thread discounting my experiencing, demanding proof, and I finally gave as much proof as I could bear to over an Internet forum and it went completely ignored because it made people uncomfortable. I'm sorry. You kind of got bit by the knee jerk reaction that caused me to realize that what I say truly doesn't matter and that's such a tough realization when you're trying to help someone.

Sorry again. Went on a tangent.

It is sad that the female representation in gaming is alright as best. I have hope it'll get better though.

No harm, no foul. We're actually on the same page I think.

As was stated earlier(possibly by you?), it costs me nothing to empathize when someone's been wronged, regardless of the truth of the matter (again, not talking about you specifically; talking in more broad terms). At the end of the day, if someone lies to me and I give them my sympathy, I'm still no less off than when I started the day.

But haven't you heard you can't be racist or sexist against straight white men.

Yes, us poor, downtrodden white men who have CONTROLLED THE WORLD FOR A THOUSAND YEARS.

Thanks for showing your opinions mean less than nothing.

Discrimination in any form is still discrimination. But I guess according to people like you, it's alright if it's happening to straight white men.

You make me sick. And I pray to God that you have no influence over the next generation to breed your willfully ignorant and hateful views.

Oh you are such a poor thing, you get discriminated based on your privileged position in society. You get advantages others can only dream off, but sometimes this will cause you minor problems and this makes you sick.

Do you have a broken fingernail as well? Your poor thing. You are aware how silly your whining is?

No, it is not alright, but it is not a systemic problem either. If it happens to you, it usually is a small nuisance, so grow a pair and man up. (irony intended)

You completely missed the point.

The point is that it is NEVER ok to discriminate.

It doesn't matter what color your skin is. What gender you are or identify with. What sexuality you are.

It is NOT OK TO DISCRIMINATE.

The SJW crowd, like the poster I replied to, believes it is ok to discriminate against those who belong to a certain group (the straight white male) because that group has been in power.

And if you agree with that viewpoint, you are part of the problem.

End of story, no room for argument.

The conversation never ends well.

I'll get the popcorn...