Are We Part of the Problem?

By Grayfax, in X-Wing

Have not read the last 29 pages but has anyone pointed out that the reason there are few women playing this game is because, as my wife would say, its just a sill game with plastic things and dice and its not that intresting?

If that would objectively true than males should not be interested in their plastic crack either. I object your theory that women are just to smart for dumb male hobbies! :P

The game is interesting, it comes with star wars toys, star wars is awesome. So the game is alone for the models awesome.

It sounds like your lucky enough not to be married and you have never seen the eye rolls and here the grown every time star wars in mentioned. ;)

but I do the same every time she talks about her scrap booking stuff. I never knew how many different colours paper comes in

My eyes have been opened about how xwing community as a whole views women. Thanks for that, guys. I'm out.

just makes us both smile. Oh the hypocrisy, blaming someone for generalizing and then generalizing them.

To be fair, such a generalization about a community is sound. If the amount of jerks to deal with is to high the community as a whole loses all value, even if it consists 90% of angles. It's not saying "you all suck", it is saying "this as a whole sucks for me and is not worth the negatives for me". And the escalation in the last 18 hours or so paints the community in a bad light indeed. Fundamentalism and us vs them simply sucks.

Edited by SEApocalypse

So don`t get caught up in it. It`s why we were both sensible enough to f**k off when Gamergate reared it`s ugly hydralike array of heads.

Have not read the last 29 pages but has anyone pointed out that the reason there are few women playing this game is because, as my wife would say, its just a sill game with plastic things and dice and its not that intresting?

If that would objectively true than males should not be interested in their plastic crack either. I object your theory that women are just to smart for dumb male hobbies! :P

The game is interesting, it comes with star wars toys, star wars is awesome. So the game is alone for the models awesome.

It sounds like your lucky enough not to be married and you have never seen the eye rolls and here the grown every time star wars in mentioned. ;)

but I do the same every time she talks about her scrap booking stuff. I never knew how many different colours paper comes in

16 years together now, my wife brought me into X-Wing, my Age of Rebellion GM is buying the X-Wing Mini's as well and she is quite often trying to mansplaine videogames to me, because she has not noticed that I am a core gamer yet. ;-)

Have not read the last 29 pages but has anyone pointed out that the reason there are few women playing this game is because, as my wife would say, its just a sill game with plastic things and dice and its not that intresting?

If that would objectively true than males should not be interested in their plastic crack either. I object your theory that women are just to smart for dumb male hobbies! :P

The game is interesting, it comes with star wars toys, star wars is awesome. So the game is alone for the models awesome.

It sounds like your lucky enough not to be married and you have never seen the eye rolls and here the grown every time star wars in mentioned. ;)

but I do the same every time she talks about her scrap booking stuff. I never knew how many different colours paper comes in

16 years together now, my wife brought me into X-Wing, my Age of Rebellion GM is buying the X-Wing Mini's as well and she is quite often trying to mansplaine videogames to me, because she has not noticed that I am a core gamer yet. ;-)

That would be womansplaining surely.

Have not read the last 29 pages but has anyone pointed out that the reason there are few women playing this game is because, as my wife would say, its just a sill game with plastic things and dice and its not that intresting?

If that would objectively true than males should not be interested in their plastic crack either. I object your theory that women are just to smart for dumb male hobbies! :P

The game is interesting, it comes with star wars toys, star wars is awesome. So the game is alone for the models awesome.

It sounds like your lucky enough not to be married and you have never seen the eye rolls and here the grown every time star wars in mentioned. ;)

but I do the same every time she talks about her scrap booking stuff. I never knew how many different colours paper comes in

16 years together now, my wife brought me into X-Wing, my Age of Rebellion GM is buying the X-Wing Mini's as well and she is quite often trying to mansplaine videogames to me, because she has not noticed that I am a core gamer yet. ;-)

That would be womansplaining surely.

Not a fan of changing gender of words based on gender of who is doing it. I do not mind having gender neutral words instead though. Mansplaining seems to be rather new and I am not aware of an other englisch expression that is so fitting ;-)

edit: And it might be the right moment to lock this topic, 31 pages is to long to get decent yield of reasonable and productive post from late comers. Most of the newest aggressive post are trying to deal with stuff that was been dealt already in the last 10 page, because they quit reading and started replying after page 1-5. I am guilty of doing this myself very often too, it is the nature of the internet and long topics.

Edited by SEApocalypse

Greetings

The general lack of female miniature gamers (for whatever reason) may make incidents less prevalent in this area of tabletop games. I know RPGs can certainly see, at the least, harassment and in other fora there are discussions about card games, miniature wargames etc running as a result of the blog article.

While there may be dispute about the pervasiveness of the issue (or the rhetoric employed) any actions that have the effect of making individuals uncomfortable – or worse – should not be tolerated in any community.

It is clear that some individuals have experienced problems that directly affect them - so we should act to eliminate them, rather then focus on the extent of those problems. If even only one female player believes there is an issue action should be taken by everyone where such situations arise, even if they happen to be rare. The same should be true of actions that adversely affect other individuals or groups.

Regards

Edward

Look, when I said I was impressed at Kath Scarlett`s rear end, I was referring to the 4 red dice my interceptor ate.

Look, when I said I was impressed at Kath Scarlett`s rear end, I was referring to the 4 red dice my interceptor ate.

You are allowed to be impressed by her dice and butt :P

KathScarlet.jpg

Look, when I said I was impressed at Kath Scarlett`s rear end, I was referring to the 4 red dice my interceptor ate.

And when I said junk in her trunk I was clearly referring to greedo, by that point he was starting to smell you know how rodians are about hygiene.

Look, when I said I was impressed at Kath Scarlett`s rear end, I was referring to the 4 red dice my interceptor ate.

And when I said junk in her trunk I was clearly referring to greedo, by that point he was starting to smell you know how rodians are about hygiene.

One step to far for my taste ^_^

Besides Rodians smell no matter their hygiene, they can't beat their genes :P

(well, ok, they can, they have developed perfumes to negate the smell for humans ;-))

I have just realized something awesome/terrible/hilarious.

I am massively humanocentric. In Starcraft I play Terrans, In 40k Imperial Guard/Space Marine/Chaos/Sisters. and I truly, TRULY hate Tau.

In SW I gravitate towards Imperial. In Beyond Earth, I tend to go Purity...

Suffer not the Alien to live.

Man, You guys are REALLY gonna hate me when first contact happens....

Well.

Okay. I did not bring up gamer gate, someone else came into the thread, called it crap in a rant, and I react. Sorry about that, McFoy.

To whoever said "the feminazi reported it" that's cool, but I didn't. As the only woman who's come forward in this thread that's such an awful way to talk.

My eyes have been opened about how xwing community as a whole views women. Thanks for that, guys. I'm out.

Looking back through, yes you were only reacting to someone calling it crap.

I have just realized something awesome/terrible/hilarious.

I am massively humanocentric. In Starcraft I play Terrans, In 40k Imperial Guard/Space Marine/Chaos/Sisters. and I truly, TRULY hate Tau.

In SW I gravitate towards Imperial. In Beyond Earth, I tend to go Purity...

Suffer not the Alien to live.

Man, You guys are REALLY gonna hate me when first contact happens....

Blue skinned goat people can be discarded but how can you not like those mechs?

Because I don't like Gundam in my 40k...

Also when Tau were first released they were positioned as the noblebright good guys of the setting, and I've never gotten over that.

Because I don't like Gundam in my 40k...

Also when Tau were first released they were positioned as the noblebright good guys of the setting, and I've never gotten over that.

In the grim dark future of the 41st millennium there is only clean buildings, drones performing the menial tasks and a free press!

I'll take my hard drinking space Vikings over that any day.

I'll take my survivalist snipers who seem to keep getting into altercations with Tau (I play Raptors).

I have just realized something awesome/terrible/hilarious.

I am massively humanocentric. In Starcraft I play Terrans, In 40k Imperial Guard/Space Marine/Chaos/Sisters. and I truly, TRULY hate Tau.

In SW I gravitate towards Imperial. In Beyond Earth, I tend to go Purity...

Suffer not the Alien to live.

Man, You guys are REALLY gonna hate me when first contact happens....

Now you understand why my entire fleet is

CERBERUS?

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Yes!, just... Yes.

Bahhhh. In my city you must be carefull not to tell the wrong people that you are a wargamer. They KNOW a wargamer is a fascist paranoid who sleeps with a machinegun under the bed, do dirty things watching Hitler speeches and enjoy killing little puppies. To be offensive and a sexual predator with a little "instrument".goes automatic.

The best argument to defend our hobby is simply say..."come and see"

Edited by Hexdot

Bunch of Gue'la...

lowly mon'keigh...

Foul Xenos and pathetic whelps in the service of the corpse god. (spot my favourite fluff faction...)

Foul Xenos and pathetic whelps in the service of the corpse god. (spot my favourite fluff faction...)

Squats?

Hello FFG mods.

This thread offends me and I want it locked. I take offense to being labelled as a white male terrorist. The linked article is borderline hate speech and has no purpose here except to troll users of this forum.

I will flame this thread with a lock request until I see results. This discussion has no place or merit here. If this thread is somehow useful, then move it to the proper sub-forum.