Are We Part of the Problem?

By Grayfax, in X-Wing

http://i.imgur.com/X1amFDz.jpg

I remember a time when we didn't just assume because it was on the internetet was true.

Listen and believe.

You just don't understand. The individuals don't matter, its about the bigger picture. If I'm nice to you and you're nice to me then John C Henry will be nice to Barack Obama because of our stellar example. Besides this is just like you trolls always bringing this misinformation into it after we've decided to jerk ourselves off again.

That is a picture on imgur not even a link to an actual source but an easily editable picture from a site mostly devoted to memes. Hardly something that counters personal testimony of hardship and you still continue to ignore those who voiced their experiences in this thread or worse actively insult them and belittle what they have went through. Making masturbation jokes about victims of sexual harassment, you are truly disgusting.

Just want to point out that unlike the other one there is stuff in this blog post you can look up to see if it is lying or not. You can look up the thread he references and check out the company to see if it does have more women over male employees, then can easily blast this as fake if those are proven false. can also email this guy to see if he did in fact make this post.

Oh no! THE 50\50 QUOTA NOT MET!

BLASPHEMY!

p.s. employed in legal department, I am fully aware of how the process of employment is scheduled, performed and how people are chosen.

Nobody cares about what's between the legs for most jobs anyway. And in a few notable exceptions (like representative in Japan or Arab countries. because of cultural specifics) it does.

so every time I see the "oh no! DISPROPORTIONAL EMPLOYMENT I just smile at the nonsense and stupidity of the whole idea.

If a better candidate is chosen it's good. Quota is bad. Simple as that ^_^

http://i.imgur.com/X1amFDz.jpg

I remember a time when we didn't just assume because it was on the internetet was true.

Listen and believe.

You just don't understand. The individuals don't matter, its about the bigger picture. If I'm nice to you and you're nice to me then John C Henry will be nice to Barack Obama because of our stellar example. Besides this is just like you trolls always bringing this misinformation into it after we've decided to jerk ourselves off again.

That is a picture on imgur not even a link to an actual source but an easily editable picture from a site mostly devoted to memes. Hardly something that counters personal testimony of hardship and you still continue to ignore those who voiced their experiences in this thread or worse actively insult them and belittle what they have went through. Making masturbation jokes about victims of sexual harassment, you are truly disgusting.

Just want to point out that unlike the other one there is stuff in this blog post you can look up to see if it is lying or not. You can look up the thread he references and check out the company to see if it does have more women over male employees, then can easily blast this as fake if those are proven false. can also email this guy to see if he did in fact make this post.

Oh no! THE 50\50 QUOTA NOT MET!

BLASPHEMY!

p.s. employed in legal department, I am fully aware of how the process of employment is scheduled, performed and how people are chosen.

Nobody cares about what's between the legs for most jobs anyway. And in a few notable exceptions (like representative in Japan or Arab countries. because of cultural specifics) it does.

so every time I see the "oh no! DISPROPORTIONAL EMPLOYMENT I just smile at the nonsense and stupidity of the whole idea.

If a better candidate is chosen it's good. Quota is bad. Simple as that ^_^

Huh? not sure what you're going on about, was pointing out that the post was checkable, since he was saying the source was garbage and should be auto disbelieved.

http://i.imgur.com/X1amFDz.jpg

I remember a time when we didn't just assume because it was on the internetet was true.

Listen and believe.

You just don't understand. The individuals don't matter, its about the bigger picture. If I'm nice to you and you're nice to me then John C Henry will be nice to Barack Obama because of our stellar example. Besides this is just like you trolls always bringing this misinformation into it after we've decided to jerk ourselves off again.

That is a picture on imgur not even a link to an actual source but an easily editable picture from a site mostly devoted to memes. Hardly something that counters personal testimony of hardship and you still continue to ignore those who voiced their experiences in this thread or worse actively insult them and belittle what they have went through. Making masturbation jokes about victims of sexual harassment, you are truly disgusting.

Just want to point out that unlike the other one there is stuff in this blog post you can look up to see if it is lying or not. You can look up the thread he references and check out the company to see if it does have more women over male employees, then can easily blast this as fake if those are proven false. can also email this guy to see if he did in fact make this post.

Oh no! THE 50\50 QUOTA NOT MET!

BLASPHEMY!

p.s. employed in legal department, I am fully aware of how the process of employment is scheduled, performed and how people are chosen.

Nobody cares about what's between the legs for most jobs anyway. And in a few notable exceptions (like representative in Japan or Arab countries. because of cultural specifics) it does.

so every time I see the "oh no! DISPROPORTIONAL EMPLOYMENT I just smile at the nonsense and stupidity of the whole idea.

If a better candidate is chosen it's good. Quota is bad. Simple as that ^_^

Huh? not sure what you're going on about, was pointing out that the post was checkable, since he was saying the source was garbage and should be auto disbelieved.

Yep, I'm just saying that's true and every time i see someone bringing up the topic I can but smile.

*Walks in, sees stupidity, walks out*

Never got the quota thing. It's literally discrimination.

I'm going to add my 2 cents on the LGS female experience.

I go to two shops, New World Comics, which is centered heavily on GW products, and Loot & XP which focuses more on having a huge supply of board games you can play endlessly after paying a table fee.

Both shops have their fair share of women attend. At NWC however, it's mostly wives of guys who come in to play 40K or Fantasy AGE OF SIGMAR. A few are primarily interested in painting models while others use some of the smaller tables set up on the comic side of the shop to do some old fashioned RPG play. While I'm not there frequently, I've never seen a female coming up to the table to play X-Wing or a GW game. It's not a very confrontational environment as most people there are good acquaintances with each other. Really the only place that the women seem to avoid is the unisex single toilet which is probably out of concern for catching anthrax on their bums rather than any social factors.

Loot & XP has random groups of both men, women, and mixed groups of all ages coming in. Most of the play is centered on board games, but there is a steady X-Wing community there (tourney this Sunday!). Once again though, the game play is limited to just men. Once again, not due to the environment of the shop. Indeed, the fiance of one of the owners frequently teases us about the relative complexity of the game before going back to whatever she was playing.

Heck, I've tried to encourage my wife to play especially when there's no other opponent and she prefers talked with her friends to getting into the game. It's not that she wants to avoid being directly confrontational in a game (she brags about the time she was playing D&D and cut the head off of the other female player's character), but just a lack of immersion.

I think that X-Wing just swings a lot closer to Mars than it does to Venus. I've been working on my Master's thesis in Biology for 13 hours straight while reading this thread off and on. I think that one thing that many members of this community may not understand is that the understanding of sex to a male and female mind is completely different. Evolution plays a huge part on influencing behavior. We're not too far from having dropped from the proverbial branch of pure instinctive behavior, but most of the gender stress that I've seen in humanity is pretty well the norm with many other species.

If any of you want to talk about the evolutionary science behind some of the stuff on this thread, I'd be happy to do so after some much needed sleep. I will warn you that some topics could be a bit edgy, but to get to the natural origins of a lot of our gender issues, one can't slap a paint job of civilization over the picture to make it prettier.

Flybomb ...one can't slap a paint job of civilization over the picture to make it prettier.

Well that is actually the core of civilization, to make living together possible in communitys where you can not know everybody.

Civilization is not needed in native tribes or by animals cause everybody knows everybody.

Interactions with strangers will be very careful or outright hostily.

Civilization is needed where you have to interact with Strangers.

For that every culture has developed writen and unwritten rules how to interact.

- Greetings

- Handshake/Hug

- Be polite

- Look into eyes (Dont look on chest)

If you meat somenone who breaks all this unwritten rules, you may want to step back a little,

cause you can´t predict his reactions.

If you break this rules yourself, you will make people uncomfortable.

Biologie is important, but its not the only possible explanation.

Be excellent to each other by beeing civilized

Edited by Yodas Mum

And like most crimes, I will 'fling blame' at the person committing it. As for demanding a course of action...well, what would you demand? Sexual harassment may be complex from a sociological view, it doesn't take a genius to think of what a victim would want. Help, understanding and justice.

Exactly, the person. Sanctioning a group (men, women, gamers, young people) because of the actions of a few individual in that group is deeply problematic and often very counterproductive. Blame (and punish) Joe Harasser, not men.

Edited by Okapi

You know what Canadians have that the Americans don't?

Pastry Pockets at Tim Hortons. Those things are fragging awesome.

Best breakfast ever.

Nothing beats the classy brit porridge

Oh look, I like porridge, with a little bit of honey or golden syrup it's fantastic. But seriously. Pastry Pockets filled with nuttella man.

And like most crimes, I will 'fling blame' at the person committing it. As for demanding a course of action...well, what would you demand? Sexual harassment may be complex from a sociological view, it doesn't take a genius to think of what a victim would want. Help, understanding and justice.

Exactly, the person. Sanctioning a group (men, women, gamers, young people) because of the actions of a few individual in that group is deeply problematic and often very counterproductive. Blame (and punish) Joe Harasser, not men.

http://i.imgur.com/X1amFDz.jpg

I remember a time when we didn't just assume because it was on the internetet was true.

Listen and believe.

You just don't understand. The individuals don't matter, its about the bigger picture. If I'm nice to you and you're nice to me then John C Henry will be nice to Barack Obama because of our stellar example. Besides this is just like you trolls always bringing this misinformation into it after we've decided to jerk ourselves off again.

That is a picture on imgur not even a link to an actual source but an easily editable picture from a site mostly devoted to memes. Hardly something that counters personal testimony of hardship and you still continue to ignore those who voiced their experiences in this thread or worse actively insult them and belittle what they have went through. Making masturbation jokes about victims of sexual harassment, you are truly disgusting.

Oh hey, prove my point a little harder why don't you.

Firstly, it's called a screengrab. Secondly, I'm not countering the experiences of people IN THIS THREAD, but the linked account in the OP.

And I'm not going to bother to slither down to your level and indulge your insults.

http://i.imgur.com/X1amFDz.jpg

I remember a time when we didn't just assume because it was on the internetet was true.

Listen and believe.

You just don't understand. The individuals don't matter, its about the bigger picture. If I'm nice to you and you're nice to me then John C Henry will be nice to Barack Obama because of our stellar example. Besides this is just like you trolls always bringing this misinformation into it after we've decided to jerk ourselves off again.

That is a picture on imgur not even a link to an actual source but an easily editable picture from a site mostly devoted to memes. Hardly something that counters personal testimony of hardship and you still continue to ignore those who voiced their experiences in this thread or worse actively insult them and belittle what they have went through. Making masturbation jokes about victims of sexual harassment, you are truly disgusting.

I was merely giving that link the benefit of the doubt, something you've been advocating. It doesn't hurt me to do that at the very least. Also the masturbation jokes were referencing you jagoffs during your second round of self congratulation.

Edited by McFoy

http://i.imgur.com/X1amFDz.jpg

I remember a time when we didn't just assume because it was on the internetet was true.

Listen and believe.

You just don't understand. The individuals don't matter, its about the bigger picture. If I'm nice to you and you're nice to me then John C Henry will be nice to Barack Obama because of our stellar example. Besides this is just like you trolls always bringing this misinformation into it after we've decided to jerk ourselves off again.

That is a picture on imgur not even a link to an actual source but an easily editable picture from a site mostly devoted to memes. Hardly something that counters personal testimony of hardship and you still continue to ignore those who voiced their experiences in this thread or worse actively insult them and belittle what they have went through. Making masturbation jokes about victims of sexual harassment, you are truly disgusting.

I was merely giving that link the benefit of the doubt, something you've been advocating. It doesn't hurt me to do that at the very least.

I'm just done.

Edited by Jon D

Yeah the self congratulation is tiresome. I'm gonna quit repeating myself y'all saw my posts a few pages ago about that.

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