My blue cardboard tokens work just like the coins. Good enough for me to play and have fun.

When did it become a bad thing to be proud of your achievements? My wife has 2 university degrees proudly displayed on our wall. I don't, so does that mean I should shame her or get mad at her for what she has accomplished that I haven't? While it's a game it's not different. Those guys put time and effort into winning those coins. They should be congratulated for their achievements, not subject to ridicule for doing well at a game we all play. Where is the problem with excelling at something?

I thought I was out, and they pull me back in.

I am not denigrating prize support. I think they're cool! Dice, acrylics, alt-arts, playmats, etc. are awesome and I love FFG for producing them. And yes, use your SC Challenge Coin to flip for initiative before a game. It's a cool coin.

This is not about prize support.

This is about (legally) using multiples of a "prestige" item (and yes, I've read the refutation to this - that I can just go buy one on eBay) in such a way that suggests that, at your level, they've got about as much value to you as a cardboard token.

This is not hanging a degree on a wall. This is using a degree as a coaster, because you just have so gosh-darn many of the things. If you want to do that, it's fine - you've earned it and it's not my place to tell you what to do with it. But maybe it can seem like a little much.

I'm not coming in hot. At least I don't think I am. I'm not angry at either side in this. I don't have any dog in the fight. What is unfair is when people twist "fly casual" to their needs when a player does something that they don't necessarily agree with.

I'm not saying folks have to like people using coins as shield tokens. What I'm saying is that none of you have the right to judge them on it.

I'm not trying to tell anybody how to play their game. Maybe just that, in certain circumstances, attempting to intimidate your opponent by plunking a pile giant metal prizes down on the table is not "cool."

No one is plunking down anything. If they are being used as Shield Tokens, they are across the table on the opponents cards.

By your line of reasoning it's rude to use any event related swag as someone could feel intimidated by your manuver templates, acrylic tokens, alt-arts, dice, etc. Some of which is much more difficult to get then a bunch of challenge coins. As I stated above it is silly to be intimidated by any of that, especially SC level stuff, so why pander to it?

I understand where the shield tokens go. Thank you. And when I said "plunking," I was referring to setup.

That said, this is not a hill I intend to die on. Like I said, I'm not trying to tell anybody how to play their game. Just sharing my opinion, which is in no way binding. Sorry for interrupting.

Just so you are not on your own here, I tend to agree, I think in some circumstances it is played as a way to gain a minor psychological edge.

A couple of years ago In my first tournament I played someone who was using Championship range rulers, did it put me on edge,maybe,did it effect whether I had a fun game, possibly.

In my mind and this is my opinion, it's not very "Fly Casual"

Someone using Store Championship templates detracted from your ability to have a fun game? I'm sorry that sounds like a personal problem you need to deal with as opposed to an issue the other put upon you. It's actually just out right ludicrous to have such an inconsequential thing affect you in anyway. FFG gives out range rulers and templates so players can use them when they play, heaven forbid people actually do just that.

Not quite the same is it really, a degree vs some small plastic tokens?

It just doesn't sit right with my opinion of Fly Casual, I heard them discussing it on the Mynock podcast and did come across a bit smug and gloaty( if such a word exists)

Again just my interpretation of Fly Casual, everyone has their own take.

Yes one is a game and the other was career based but they both put time, effort and money into doing well at something they enjoyed. I'm not really a tournament player(kids and stuff) but we have a couple guys who regularly place in the majority of local and non local tournaments, should I look down on them when they bring their swag back on casual nights? If people are jerks then don't like them for being a jerk. But no one should be put down for doing something well. Especially playing a game.

Man. A cool plastic range ruler would be awesome. My cardboard one is getting all wabbly and frayed. :/

Maybe it's just me, but I think "shield coins" exhibits a deep lack of chill and is not very "fly casual."

Now for this event I feel that it is no longer a fly casual level area. This is getting into the big boys and their toys area of gaming; i.e. you have the event entry and the tourney fee you are above casual play. Now the smacking down at 8 different store level events seems a little harsh. It starts to get into a mind game level which I love as long as they can receive as well as give.

Maybe it's just me, but I think "shield coins" exhibits a deep lack of chill and is not very "fly casual."

Now for this event I feel that it is no longer a fly casual level area. This is getting into the big boys and their toys area of gaming; i.e. you have the event entry and the tourney fee you are above casual play. Now the smacking down at 8 different store level events seems a little harsh. It starts to get into a mind game level which I love as long as they can receive as well as give.

Thank you - this is what I meant.

Hello. I am said culprit and though I feel no need to defend my actions, I will try and explain them. Yes, I have 8 Store Championship coins that I earned. All from top 4 finishes ( where I conceded every time after winning the first event I attended) and, while playing with friends, we realized that I had enough to run as shields in my list. So that's exactly what I did. Last year at worlds when on the stream, FFG took all of my acrylics away and made me use FFG products only for the stream. I didn't have shields or target locks or stress tokens. So going into Adepticon I decided to use my coins as shield tokens so that they wouldn't swap them out if I made it on the stream. FFG didn't control the stream, covenant did so it wasn't an issue.

Did they intimidate opponents? Maybe. Is that a problem? No. Did I slam them down in the middle of the table? Point them out to my opponent? Absolutely not. If I wanted to be that kind of guy I guess I could have a WWE belt made and socket them all the way around it and ware it over my shoulder during matches. That would be making good use of them right? Because they are totally non functional as shield tokens.

have a WWE belt made and socket them all the way around it and ware it over my shoulder during matches.

While a little douchy, that would be amazing to see .

Since top 4 coins are to intimidating and need to be banned as shield tokens ..... I guess to be fair we should ban all top4 acrylics as well .... its not really fair striking fear in your opponent with so much bling bling

I have to admit. This thread makes me want to do 2 things. Laugh and puke.

Laugh because this is ridiculous.

Puke because of how some people of this community are making a fuss about someones accomplishments.

Solution: Play the game! Get better! Win more swag! Period. In the meantime, learn from the people who are better and don't judge them by the size of their coins.

Since top 4 coins are to intimidating and need to be banned as shield tokens ..... I guess to be fair we should ban all top4 acrylics as well .... its not really fair striking fear in your opponent with so much bling bling

Perhaps I should start bring to a bag of M&Ms and ask my opponent to use them as shield tokens. Then everytime I get a hit, I eat those shields...Yummy Talk about sweet victory!

When did it become a bad thing to be proud of your achievements? My wife has 2 university degrees proudly displayed on our wall. I don't, so does that mean I should shame her or get mad at her for what she has accomplished that I haven't? While it's a game it's not different. Those guys put time and effort into winning those coins. They should be congratulated for their achievements, not subject to ridicule for doing well at a game we all play. Where is the problem with excelling at something?

I thought I was out, and they pull me back in.

I am not denigrating prize support. I think they're cool! Dice, acrylics, alt-arts, playmats, etc. are awesome and I love FFG for producing them. And yes, use your SC Challenge Coin to flip for initiative before a game. It's a cool coin.

This is not about prize support.

This is about (legally) using multiples of a "prestige" item (and yes, I've read the refutation to this - that I can just go buy one on eBay) in such a way that suggests that, at your level, they've got about as much value to you as a cardboard token.

This is not hanging a degree on a wall. This is using a degree as a coaster, because you just have so gosh-darn many of the things. If you want to do that, it's fine - you've earned it and it's not my place to tell you what to do with it. But maybe it can seem like a little much.

My thoughts summed up exactly. The statement is you are so good and have so many of these they have much less value to you, and I want you to recognize that fact by using them as tokens in game. Just like shadeleader says, do what you want, you've earned them, but I'm free to think this is a reflection of character. If you try to use it as an intimidation tactic, I may respond by teasing you as your shield token coins start disappearing off your ships.

So by now the majority of us has seen the player/players from the Hoth event using the challenge coins for shield tokens. They look very impressive but does it show skill or just egotistical?

To have placed that many times in top 4 is a wonderful achievement but it also shows a elitist need to dominate others. Yes there is a chance that they needed that many attempts to grab a precious bye.

Would you as a player feel the need to show up others or do you show up to challenge other players to be better?

I met them both last weekend. Good guys having fun. Nothing to see here....move along.

I use rodent skulls as shield tokens.

I bash a lot of rats.

When did it become a bad thing to be proud of your achievements? My wife has 2 university degrees proudly displayed on our wall. I don't, so does that mean I should shame her or get mad at her for what she has accomplished that I haven't? While it's a game it's not different. Those guys put time and effort into winning those coins. They should be congratulated for their achievements, not subject to ridicule for doing well at a game we all play. Where is the problem with excelling at something?

I thought I was out, and they pull me back in.

I am not denigrating prize support. I think they're cool! Dice, acrylics, alt-arts, playmats, etc. are awesome and I love FFG for producing them. And yes, use your SC Challenge Coin to flip for initiative before a game. It's a cool coin.

This is not about prize support.

This is about (legally) using multiples of a "prestige" item (and yes, I've read the refutation to this - that I can just go buy one on eBay) in such a way that suggests that, at your level, they've got about as much value to you as a cardboard token.

This is not hanging a degree on a wall. This is using a degree as a coaster, because you just have so gosh-darn many of the things. If you want to do that, it's fine - you've earned it and it's not my place to tell you what to do with it. But maybe it can seem like a little much.

My thoughts summed up exactly. The statement is you are so good and have so many of these they have much less value to you, and I want you to recognize that fact by using them as tokens in game. Just like shadeleader says, do what you want, you've earned them, but I'm free to think this is a reflection of character. If you try to use it as an intimidation tactic, I may respond by teasing you as your shield token coins start disappearing off your ships.

(Bold mine.) Intimidation? In a dice game with plastic ships? Seriously? LOL. There is literally nothing that can intimidate me at those tables. Even a dice throwing temper tantrum wouldn't be intimidating. (I'd feel back for their lack of self control, but it wouldn't intimidate me..)

I'm glad someone did this for a couple of reasons. The coins are given out to show peoples accomplishments what good are they going to do collecting dust on a desk around people who most likely don't even know what they are for. The second reason is I've run low on entertainment for today. The amount of butt hurt and tears in this thread will sustain me till work is over! Almost as good as the "Are We Part of the Problem?" thread.

I use Store Championship plaques as shield tokens.

I brought nachos to work for lunch today. When I began to eat them disaster struck.

They were completely lacking any flavor! Oh no!

Then, in the distance, I saw this thread. When I began to read it, my lunch was saved. I discovered so much salt in this thread that I was able to harvest some and use it to flavor my nachos!

Perhaps I should start bring to a bag of M&Ms and ask my opponent to use them as shield tokens. Then everytime I get a hit, I eat those shields...Yummy Talk about sweet victory!

Totally bringing Skittles to the next tourney.

I like the guy that sat across from me... saw the shield tokens, and pulled a handfull of pennies out of his pocket to use as shield tokens... Master stroke.

Outside the US, this act is viewed as a slap in the face to your opponent and very disrespectful. While it may not be an issue in the US, those of us outside the US view this differently.

This is not unlike wiping your nose with a $20 bill and discarding it in public. Regardless of whether or not you can do it, those viewing this behaviour will react to it unfavourably in most cases as you can see from the fact that this thread even exists.

Not all cultures view pride and bragging the same way.

While you are entitled to do this, those of us who aren't necessarily from the US are also entitled to view it as we do.

For those that are arguing about using these coins is the same as using the tokens, I'm sorry but you have missed the picture completely. The range rulers and tokens are provided by FFG and are replacements for the cardboard you get with the original game kit. There is no mention of using coins as shield tokens anywhere. Did they not also give out actual acrylic shield tokens at this event? Those look quite a bit different in both shape and size from the coins don't you think?

For the next tournament I intend to use those as shield tokens:

Diameter: 10 cm

battery powered

You hardly can go closer to 'real' shields, I guess

For the next tournament I intend to use those as shield tokens:

Diameter: 10 cm

battery powered

You hardly can go closer to 'real' shields, I guess

DING DING we have a winner!!!!