A tribute to those of you who enjoy casual lists

By Hexdot, in X-Wing

In this sunny and inspiring morning I want to give thanks to all of you who buy x wing minis and enjoy playing with them. You go to your LGS, a friend's house or the like, and you enjoy playing with the models you like that day. Perhaps a bunch of generics M3, or a trio of Reds X led by Porkins, because you never has played with Porkins in 432 games.

Simply fly "feeling" and not "max / mining". Then one day you go Tournament and fly super Tier list, but for you Casual play is not only a tool to improve as a top player, you simply like moving your favourite ships and playing as a child with other grown up childs.

I fear too often we fall in the Dark Side. " I must be renowed as the best player in my area. I need 3 Jumpmaster NOW".

So, I salute you.

I like to go somewhere in between. Bring rarely used ships and pilots that I BELIEVE IN!, and actually win games with them. Actually, flying something people have little experience in facing (and you can pilot like a champ) occasionally gives you an advantage. Especially intermediate, netlisting players are often shocked into submission when having to defend against Defenders, having Sigmas on their six, being scourged by Scourge and commanded to lose by Commander Alozen.

Poetic

People have fun doing different things. Please don't attempt to shame others for having fun in a different way than you.

Edited by Chumbalaya

People have fun doing different things. Please don't attempt to shame others for having fun in a different way than you.

This particular post didn't strike me as particularly offensive to anyone...can you explain why it would be?

When I put in my order, Triple Jumpmasters looked like it would be a fun squad to play and one that I thought might be competitive but still quirky enough to let me be a special snowflake in a sea of Palp Aces, Phantom + Decimator, Brobots, and Rebel Regen + Stressbot squads. It looks like I was only half right.

Not playing something you think will be fun because it happens to be the flavor of the month would be a shame.

Not playing something you think will be fun because it happens to be the flavor of the month would be a shame.

Pretty much the problem I had with Phantoms when I started playing. So much fun to be had with them, but so much abuse from people about how over powered they were. The decloak change was the best thing that ever happened to them. The TLT and half points for large base shops were great too because they stopped (most) people whining about them.

People have fun doing different things. Please don't attempt to shame others for having fun in a different way than you.

A tribute to one man implies no shame to others. If I tribute USN, no shame to USAF. No double intention.

I like to try to be the best at something. It's fun being known as the best YV-666 pilot in my area, even if I don't win the tournement or whatever, I still fly one hell of a space hotel.

I don't think I've ever played the same list twice.

People have fun doing different things. Please don't attempt to shame others for having fun in a different way than you.

A) he wasn't.

2) how do you hold in your organs with such thin skin? Medical science must know.

Most of the time I play against the same friend, since we're both retired. We constantly use off the wall combos rather than off the shelf builds. Some work but aren't fun, some are fun but absolutely disastrous and some are both fun and winnable. Regardless of the outcome we still have fun. Last night I flew 3 T70s vs 5 Kirhaxz. After losing 2 of my Ts a third friend commented that "I was enjoying a target rich environment". Everyone got a good chuckle from that. Including me. That's the first time disastrous play was commented on in a positive light.

To those that have taken umbrage with Hexdot's comment realise this: there are players that understand that they can't compete successfully even at a store championship level but love the game, like meeting new people and don't feel the need to win. They enjoy the game, the camaraderie and the banter. Winning is merely the dessert to a good meal.

I love thematic lists, tournament "winnability" be damned. Sure I'll play my tourney lists to get them ready, but I'm of the mind this is supposed to be fun, and my fun comes from theme lists.

Our next local Team Epic will probably a CR90 + VCX-100 Ghost + Assault Shuttle Phantom + however many A-Wings we can squeeze in against 2 Gozantis and as many TAPs and TIEs work with it.

Edited by Slugrage

I think it's interesting how a lot of competitive builds have also been pretty thematic:

-TIE Swarm

-The various Han builds with some combination of Luke/chewbacca/C-3PO crew

-Palpatine + aces (especially with Vader and Soontir)

-Brobots

-IG2000 + Boba Fett

-Xizor + Z-95s

-Rebel Convoy

not to mention all the 4X, Triple interceptor, 4B, XXBB, etc lists that are automatically somewhat thematic just by their ship composition.

Triple toilet seats is the biggest sad face since double falcons though. It's not very Star Wars and isn't particularly thematic even within its own faction.

Peace, people. My intention was far away from starting a debate. Glorious spring morning, sunny and beautiful. Simply I wanted to give thanks to people that play casual, deploying their ships to simply play and have fun.Nothing else. I am becoming more involved in the gaming comunity ( after very good moment with players 30 years younger )

There are players who see casual play as a tool to improve their chances in a tournament. And it is ok. But for my taste it is funnier if we play 5 games with 5 diferent lists, if my way oponent likes it.

Be cool

To those that have taken umbrage with Hexdot's comment realise this: there are players that understand that they can't compete successfully even at a store championship level but love the game, like meeting new people and don't feel the need to win. They enjoy the game, the camaraderie and the banter. Winning is merely the dessert to a good meal.

Amen to that, sir.

I like to go somewhere in between. Bring rarely used ships and pilots that I BELIEVE IN!, and actually win games with them. Actually, flying something people have little experience in facing (and you can pilot like a champ) occasionally gives you an advantage. Especially intermediate, netlisting players are often shocked into submission when having to defend against Defenders, having Sigmas on their six, being scourged by Scourge and commanded to lose by Commander Alozen.

I love that comment. It reminds me that in X-Wing even a squad that someone thinks looks like "junk" may just kick that great "tournament tested" squadron in the teeth. In another thread had seen a post mention knowing people who would turn to a game (of something, not necessarily X-Wing) because it didn't look strong enough to present any kind of challenge; maybe that's true in some games but X-Wing can certainly have its surprises.

Fly what you have. You may discover something you like that you hadn't thought of before which may mean your next opponent hadn't really considered it either. His loss.

A highly skilled player with a mediocre list will beat a mediocre player with a netlist.

Paul Heaver could probably give us all a run for our money with Scyks.