New B-wing Cannon

By Marinealver, in X-Wing

A single x-wing single torpedo took out a death star. And you people are upset a b-wing took out a cruiser?

We need a "follow the script" EPT. Discard this card to remove an opponents ship or to cancel all damage from a friendly ship. :P

In Age of Rebellion we have exhaust port as talent, which allows for easier criticals against massive targets :D

Edited by SEApocalypse

A couple of things I noticed. The super laser was fired twice in order to take out the cruiser, which is not a star destroyer. Also it had to fire at point blank range. In X-Wing terms I'd say that it's range is limited to 1.

Despite the name, the Arquitens-class light cruiser is not even a cruiser, a small frigate at best. And it is a Clone Wars era desing.

I think the lazor of doom was stupid as hell, but what it did wasn't as bad as some people here pretend it was, maybe a handful of proton torpedoes would have achieved the same effect while having greater range, not requiring the assist of weapon officer and not damaging the fighter, and that's why the idea was abandoned?

Also don't forget it meant you couldn't have a hyperdrive on the ship. In Ep. IV - Ep. VI the Rebellion is running guerrilla hit-and-run style fighting. Not having a hyper drive or requiring a tow isn't exactly a great option for hit-and-run.

But yeah, the ship Hera blows up isn't exactly a Star Destroyer or anything.

Also seen in the video:

Plot armour:

system slot.

Rebel only 5 points.

when targetted by enemy ship, you may add 2 evade tokens to every roll you make.

So...you're telling me that 10+ years before ANH, the Rebels had B-wings that could 1-shot Star Destroyers....and never deployed them? Who the hell ok'd this ****?

it seems the disney designers failed hard.

-we need moar new ships!

-erm, we got ghost

-more!

- we have a liny lambda.

-...alright, we got it. add everything from Ep V+ and add "prototype" to that.

-yessir!

and that's how we got "prototype" B and "prototype" A.

The "multi-cannon" used in this episode put a serious strain on the B-Wing's systems. It had some major engine problems, and firing the weapon also killed the ship's hyperdrive. It's not unreasonable to assume that the weapon, while powerful, had some major drawbacks that could not be solved, and it was judged to be impractical for mass production.

Also, the ship destroyed was only a light cruiser, not a full Star Destroyer. It's more in line with a Raider.

At worse, you'd be trading a B-wing and 2 pilots to destroy an entire cruiser...it makes no sense that weapons like that wouldn't be utilized by ANH. I know this is a kids show and we're supposed to suspend belief and logic, but the shark is now officially jumped.

Serious? Did you watch the original trilogy? What part of that made any scientific sense to you?

Also seen in the video:

Plot armour:

system slot.

Rebel only 5 points.

when targetted by enemy ship, you may add 2 evade tokens to every roll you make.

So...you're telling me that 10+ years before ANH, the Rebels had B-wings that could 1-shot Star Destroyers....and never deployed them? Who the hell ok'd this ****?

it seems the disney designers failed hard.

-we need moar new ships!

-erm, we got ghost

-more!

- we have a liny lambda.

-...alright, we got it. add everything from Ep V+ and add "prototype" to that.

-yessir!

and that's how we got "prototype" B and "prototype" A.

The "multi-cannon" used in this episode put a serious strain on the B-Wing's systems. It had some major engine problems, and firing the weapon also killed the ship's hyperdrive. It's not unreasonable to assume that the weapon, while powerful, had some major drawbacks that could not be solved, and it was judged to be impractical for mass production.

Also, the ship destroyed was only a light cruiser, not a full Star Destroyer. It's more in line with a Raider.

At worse, you'd be trading a B-wing and 2 pilots to destroy an entire cruiser...it makes no sense that weapons like that wouldn't be utilized by ANH. I know this is a kids show and we're supposed to suspend belief and logic, but the shark is now officially jumped.

Serious? Did you watch the original trilogy? What part of that made any scientific sense to you?

Nothing, it does not need, because star wars is science fantasy, BUT even science fantasy has limits. And the B-Wing prototype breaks immersion and setting so hard that it demands explanation, well or would demand, because the target audience is fine with it, does not question the logic and screams "wohooo" when they see heli-lightsabres. Rebells is basically Jar Jar Binks done right. ;-)

Edited by SEApocalypse

Also seen in the video:

Plot armour:

system slot.

Rebel only 5 points.

when targetted by enemy ship, you may add 2 evade tokens to every roll you make.

So...you're telling me that 10+ years before ANH, the Rebels had B-wings that could 1-shot Star Destroyers....and never deployed them? Who the hell ok'd this ****?

it seems the disney designers failed hard.

-we need moar new ships!

-erm, we got ghost

-more!

- we have a liny lambda.

-...alright, we got it. add everything from Ep V+ and add "prototype" to that.

-yessir!

and that's how we got "prototype" B and "prototype" A.

The "multi-cannon" used in this episode put a serious strain on the B-Wing's systems. It had some major engine problems, and firing the weapon also killed the ship's hyperdrive. It's not unreasonable to assume that the weapon, while powerful, had some major drawbacks that could not be solved, and it was judged to be impractical for mass production.

Also, the ship destroyed was only a light cruiser, not a full Star Destroyer. It's more in line with a Raider.

At worse, you'd be trading a B-wing and 2 pilots to destroy an entire cruiser...it makes no sense that weapons like that wouldn't be utilized by ANH. I know this is a kids show and we're supposed to suspend belief and logic, but the shark is now officially jumped.

Serious? Did you watch the original trilogy? What part of that made any scientific sense to you?

Nothing, it does not need, because star wars is science fantasy, BUT even science fantasy has limits. And the B-Wing prototype breaks immersion and setting so hard that it demands explanation, well or would demand, because the target audience is fine with it, does not question the logic and screams "wohooo" when they see heli-lightsabres. Rebells is basically Jar Jar Binks done right. ;-)

So you're okay with light speed travel, light sabers (swords of light that can cut almost anything), the force that allows you to shoot lightning from your hands, the ability to levitate an aircraft with your mind, not to mention the single person aircraft capable of atmospheric flight as well as interstellar flight, how flight works in space in the movie (ships should constantly accelerate if the engines are firing), solar powered star fighters that turn as if gravitational forces impact their mobility even in the void of space, exploding lasers, interstellar races that can communicate despite speaking completely different languages, and explosions in the vacuum of space just to name a few things.

The B-Wing from that video is too much though? It's the straw that broke that very very strained back of yours? Wow.....

The B-Wing from that video is too much though?

Hey, remember that one thing we put on that one ship that could destroy ships a thousand times it size? We need to start using that th-

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When the B wing arrived to the battle, the corvettes were already firing their turbolasers. Just tell yourself the shields were down, and the B wing super laser doesn't seem so farfetched. If you want to see it in game, have it require a lot of actions to set up, and give 2 stress tokens and a weapons disabled and the drawbacks will be fine. Also, you could only give it 3 attack dice, but each uncanceled hit causes 2 damage.

"So, Mustafa, you can bring over twenty years experience in hand-to-hand combat to the role of bodyguard/enforcer/general-thug-for-hire? Sounds exotic! Jeez, that sword is enormous! Hell, I like the look of you. When can you start?"

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"Next, please!"

Next, incoming, this time non retarded:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_KJ1R2PCMM

Also seen in the video:

Plot armour:

system slot.

Rebel only 5 points.

when targetted by enemy ship, you may add 2 evade tokens to every roll you make.

So...you're telling me that 10+ years before ANH, the Rebels had B-wings that could 1-shot Star Destroyers....and never deployed them? Who the hell ok'd this ****?

it seems the disney designers failed hard.

-we need moar new ships!

-erm, we got ghost

-more!

- we have a liny lambda.

-...alright, we got it. add everything from Ep V+ and add "prototype" to that.

-yessir!

and that's how we got "prototype" B and "prototype" A.

The "multi-cannon" used in this episode put a serious strain on the B-Wing's systems. It had some major engine problems, and firing the weapon also killed the ship's hyperdrive. It's not unreasonable to assume that the weapon, while powerful, had some major drawbacks that could not be solved, and it was judged to be impractical for mass production.

Also, the ship destroyed was only a light cruiser, not a full Star Destroyer. It's more in line with a Raider.

At worse, you'd be trading a B-wing and 2 pilots to destroy an entire cruiser...it makes no sense that weapons like that wouldn't be utilized by ANH. I know this is a kids show and we're supposed to suspend belief and logic, but the shark is now officially jumped.

Serious? Did you watch the original trilogy? What part of that made any scientific sense to you?

Nothing, it does not need, because star wars is science fantasy, BUT even science fantasy has limits. And the B-Wing prototype breaks immersion and setting so hard that it demands explanation, well or would demand, because the target audience is fine with it, does not question the logic and screams "wohooo" when they see heli-lightsabres. Rebells is basically Jar Jar Binks done right. ;-)

So you're okay with light speed travel, light sabers (swords of light that can cut almost anything), the force that allows you to shoot lightning from your hands, the ability to levitate an aircraft with your mind, not to mention the single person aircraft capable of atmospheric flight as well as interstellar flight, how flight works in space in the movie (ships should constantly accelerate if the engines are firing), solar powered star fighters that turn as if gravitational forces impact their mobility even in the void of space, exploding lasers, interstellar races that can communicate despite speaking completely different languages, and explosions in the vacuum of space just to name a few things.

The B-Wing from that video is too much though? It's the straw that broke that very very strained back of yours? Wow.....

Those thinks you mentioned to not break consistency of the fantasy world. A small-size super laser which wreaks havoc against capital ships and which can be carried to battle by small inexpensive shuttles. The prototype B wing has literally more firepower than a Stardestroyer in Rebels. It breaks Consistency of the world and the problems with the hyperdrive are shown to be trivial to overcome as the episode itself shows, so it lacks a reason not to be used.

Arquitens is NOT A CAPITAL SHIP. It is a small frigate or a big corvette. Outdated. You don't know if a salvo of proton torpedoes wouldn't destroy it.

Arquitens is NOT A CAPITAL SHIP. It is a small frigate or a big corvette. Outdated. You don't know if a salvo of proton torpedoes wouldn't destroy it.

I might have miss used capital ship in context of applying it the the smallest ship cable of operating Independent or leading a battle group. Though as such I might be not that wrong applying capital ship to a frigate as said frigate MIGHT be the capital ship of a small battle group consisting of a fighter screen, patrol crafts, corvettes and the like.

But yeah, I totally did misused capital, when I meant something along "huge ship" in x-wing terms.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Capital_ship/Legends

Edited by SEApocalypse

Okay then, if Action IV can be called a capital ship, the ability to destroy one means nothing.