The problem with having a B-wing that can one shot a large imperial ship, is that it kind of obsoletes said imperial ships; yet, we see the Empire continue to field these large ships throughout the original trilogy. This opens up another can of worms which some thoughtful planing on the part of the writers could have avoided. In the meantime we're left with fansplaining to make sense of all this.

Star Wars always required copious amounts of fansplaining to make any kind of sense. This is why you get explanations of the Kessel run involving a cluster of black holes because lol. Or private fab shops producing the equivalent of the F-22 because lol. Or etc.

Han's statement makes more sense if you know it's BS trying to impress Obi Wan. Both Obi Wan's reaction and the script spell it out. Leave it to dumb SW nerds to take everything at face value.

The problem with having a B-wing that can one shot a large imperial ship, is that it kind of obsoletes said imperial ships; yet, we see the Empire continue to field these large ships throughout the original trilogy. This opens up another can of worms which some thoughtful planing on the part of the writers could have avoided. In the meantime we're left with fansplaining to make sense of all this.

Star Wars always required copious amounts of fansplaining to make any kind of sense. This is why you get explanations of the Kessel run involving a cluster of black holes because lol. Or private fab shops producing the equivalent of the F-22 because lol. Or etc.

Han's statement makes more sense if you know it's BS trying to impress Obi Wan. Both Obi Wan's reaction and the script spell it out. Leave it to dumb SW nerds to take everything at face value.

Then how do you explain Rey's awe at the fact that the ship made the run in 14 Parsecs?

The problem with having a B-wing that can one shot a large imperial ship, is that it kind of obsoletes said imperial ships; yet, we see the Empire continue to field these large ships throughout the original trilogy. This opens up another can of worms which some thoughtful planing on the part of the writers could have avoided. In the meantime we're left with fansplaining to make sense of all this.

Star Wars always required copious amounts of fansplaining to make any kind of sense. This is why you get explanations of the Kessel run involving a cluster of black holes because lol. Or private fab shops producing the equivalent of the F-22 because lol. Or etc.

Han's statement makes more sense if you know it's BS trying to impress Obi Wan. Both Obi Wan's reaction and the script spell it out. Leave it to dumb SW nerds to take everything at face value.

Then how do you explain Rey's awe at the fact that the ship made the run in 14 Parsecs?

TFA writers love self-references, news at 11. It's a pretty dumb reaction though unlesss Rey is a dumbass.

Remember that Star Wars is fiction. It's all made up.

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I might give Rebels a miss.

Smart.

I made the mistake of watching the first season of it. It's basically what you'd expect from Disney star wars.

Example; there's a lightsaber that's also a gun. Because how cool is a lightsaber gun when you're 6 years old.

Which I suppose is the point - I don't care for rebels as I'm in my 30s, but it's probably not a bad show for its target audience of 3-11 year olds.

You probably miss the Vong.

(I'm ok with space wizards and laser swords though... never said I wasn't a hypocrite )

.........................................................................................yeah.

I might give Rebels a miss.

Smart.

I made the mistake of watching the first season of it. It's basically what you'd expect from Disney star wars.

Example; there's a lightsaber that's also a gun. Because how cool is a lightsaber gun when you're 6 years old.

Which I suppose is the point - I don't care for rebels as I'm in my 30s, but it's probably not a bad show for its target audience of 3-11 year olds.

You probably miss the Vong.

I thought I'd made it clear I wasn't a fan of stupid stuff to entertain children... like ships made entirely of space-coral.

(I'm ok with space wizards and laser swords though... never said I wasn't a hypocrite )

Star Wars is stupid stuff to entertain children.

Don't underestimate the abilities of private fab shops... we work in barely measurable tolerances, so assuming the design and raw materials were available it's not that weird to be able to build them from scratch, especially since As/Bs are in fact not chock full of advanced over-engineered frills like the F-22 is.

Very true. The enthusiasts in the one-hangar air museum near me, in Newquay, Cornwall, restore old jet fighters, and are currently supervising a party of school kids who are building their very own prop plane (just like the kids in my school's Design Tech department did in the 1970s).

In WW2, did not Albert Speer disperse a lot of Nazi weapons manufacturing to thousands of small workshops outside Germany's major cities, to avoid the RAF and USAAF's bombing campaign?

The problem with having a B-wing that can one shot a large imperial ship, is that it kind of obsoletes said imperial ships; yet, we see the Empire continue to field these large ships throughout the original trilogy. This opens up another can of worms which some thoughtful planing on the part of the writers could have avoided. In the meantime we're left with fansplaining to make sense of all this.

Star Wars always required copious amounts of fansplaining to make any kind of sense. This is why you get explanations of the Kessel run involving a cluster of black holes because lol. Or private fab shops producing the equivalent of the F-22 because lol. Or etc.

Han's statement makes more sense if you know it's BS trying to impress Obi Wan. Both Obi Wan's reaction and the script spell it out. Leave it to dumb SW nerds to take everything at face value.

Then how do you explain Rey's awe at the fact that the ship made the run in 14 Parsecs?

TFA writers love self-references, news at 11. It's a pretty dumb reaction though unlesss Rey is a dumbass.

Remember that Star Wars is fiction. It's all made up.

It's one of the more famous quotes from the OT. And the writers decided to throw in a little joke. Obviously the fansplanation is canon per the new movie. Unfortunately.

Don't underestimate the abilities of private fab shops... we work in barely measurable tolerances, so assuming the design and raw materials were available it's not that weird to be able to build them from scratch, especially since As/Bs are in fact not chock full of advanced over-engineered frills like the F-22 is.

Very true. The enthusiasts in the one-hangar air museum near me, in Newquay, Cornwall, restore old jet fighters, and are currently supervising a party of school kids who are building their very own prop plane (just like the kids in my school's Design Tech department did in the 1970s).

In WW2, did not Albert Speer disperse a lot of Nazi weapons manufacturing to thousands of small workshops outside Germany's major cities, to avoid the RAF and USAAF's bombing campaign?

If building spacecraft were the same degree of difficulty as building a prop-driven plane with analog instrumentation and controls, I'd agree. ;-)

The problem with having a B-wing that can one shot a large imperial ship, is that it kind of obsoletes said imperial ships; yet, we see the Empire continue to field these large ships throughout the original trilogy. This opens up another can of worms which some thoughtful planing on the part of the writers could have avoided. In the meantime we're left with fansplaining to make sense of all this.

Star Wars always required copious amounts of fansplaining to make any kind of sense. This is why you get explanations of the Kessel run involving a cluster of black holes because lol. Or private fab shops producing the equivalent of the F-22 because lol. Or etc.

Han's statement makes more sense if you know it's BS trying to impress Obi Wan. Both Obi Wan's reaction and the script spell it out. Leave it to dumb SW nerds to take everything at face value.

Then how do you explain Rey's awe at the fact that the ship made the run in 14 Parsecs?

TFA writers love self-references, news at 11. It's a pretty dumb reaction though unlesss Rey is a dumbass.

Remember that Star Wars is fiction. It's all made up.

It's one of the more famous quotes from the OT. And the writers decided to throw in a little joke. Obviously the fansplanation is canon per the new movie. Unfortunately.

Actually, their's a new explantion.

Now the kessel run is a route involving series of precision hyperjumps and rapid precision docking. Only the realspace distance covered is counted, as a shorter realspace distance means you hypered more precicely and docked more efficently.

Clearly, that's where Han picked up the whole "disable the safeties, drop into planetary atmospheres at lightspeed" trick.

The problem with having a B-wing that can one shot a large imperial ship, is that it kind of obsoletes said imperial ships; yet, we see the Empire continue to field these large ships throughout the original trilogy. This opens up another can of worms which some thoughtful planing on the part of the writers could have avoided. In the meantime we're left with fansplaining to make sense of all this.

Star Wars always required copious amounts of fansplaining to make any kind of sense. This is why you get explanations of the Kessel run involving a cluster of black holes because lol. Or private fab shops producing the equivalent of the F-22 because lol. Or etc.

Han's statement makes more sense if you know it's BS trying to impress Obi Wan. Both Obi Wan's reaction and the script spell it out. Leave it to dumb SW nerds to take everything at face value.

Then how do you explain Rey's awe at the fact that the ship made the run in 14 Parsecs?

TFA writers love self-references, news at 11. It's a pretty dumb reaction though unlesss Rey is a dumbass.

Remember that Star Wars is fiction. It's all made up.

It's one of the more famous quotes from the OT. And the writers decided to throw in a little joke. Obviously the fansplanation is canon per the new movie. Unfortunately.

With HAN explicit using the falcons hyper drive to jump INTO a planets atmosphere, something usually destroys ships, and the whole lore about hyperspace lanes, hyperspace lane explorations, astronavigation, etc … I would rather say fortunately. Does not matter is it was original meant to just BS Obi Wan or not, the whole thing escalated into something which makes star wars better. Doing shortcuts in hyperspace is the most daring / stupid piloting in star wars now.

Don't underestimate the abilities of private fab shops... we work in barely measurable tolerances, so assuming the design and raw materials were available it's not that weird to be able to build them from scratch, especially since As/Bs are in fact not chock full of advanced over-engineered frills like the F-22 is.

Very true. The enthusiasts in the one-hangar air museum near me, in Newquay, Cornwall, restore old jet fighters, and are currently supervising a party of school kids who are building their very own prop plane (just like the kids in my school's Design Tech department did in the 1970s).

In WW2, did not Albert Speer disperse a lot of Nazi weapons manufacturing to thousands of small workshops outside Germany's major cities, to avoid the RAF and USAAF's bombing campaign?

If building spacecraft were the same degree of difficulty as building a prop-driven plane with analog instrumentation and controls, I'd agree. ;-)

Star wars has Ether in space, so it' not an invalid comparison.

Don't underestimate the abilities of private fab shops... we work in barely measurable tolerances, so assuming the design and raw materials were available it's not that weird to be able to build them from scratch, especially since As/Bs are in fact not chock full of advanced over-engineered frills like the F-22 is.

Very true. The enthusiasts in the one-hangar air museum near me, in Newquay, Cornwall, restore old jet fighters, and are currently supervising a party of school kids who are building their very own prop plane (just like the kids in my school's Design Tech department did in the 1970s).

In WW2, did not Albert Speer disperse a lot of Nazi weapons manufacturing to thousands of small workshops outside Germany's major cities, to avoid the RAF and USAAF's bombing campaign?

If building spacecraft were the same degree of difficulty as building a prop-driven plane with analog instrumentation and controls, I'd agree. ;-)

It really is though. Star wars tech is static, deceptively simple, wide spread, and well known. In Star Wars we have a six year old kid building a jet engine powered racing hover sled when modern kids are barely making motorized go-karts. Then we have a 19 year old moisture farmer from a fringe planet that knows how to fly and perform maintenance on fighters.

Don't underestimate the abilities of private fab shops... we work in barely measurable tolerances, so assuming the design and raw materials were available it's not that weird to be able to build them from scratch, especially since As/Bs are in fact not chock full of advanced over-engineered frills like the F-22 is.

Very true. The enthusiasts in the one-hangar air museum near me, in Newquay, Cornwall, restore old jet fighters, and are currently supervising a party of school kids who are building their very own prop plane (just like the kids in my school's Design Tech department did in the 1970s).

In WW2, did not Albert Speer disperse a lot of Nazi weapons manufacturing to thousands of small workshops outside Germany's major cities, to avoid the RAF and USAAF's bombing campaign?

If building spacecraft were the same degree of difficulty as building a prop-driven plane with analog instrumentation and controls, I'd agree. ;-)

It's actually a lot easier, at least in the star wars universe. The technology is 20,000 years old. Kids on earth are building drones for fun and on their own these days and 3d printing is still in its infancy. They even weaponize them ;-)

Don't underestimate the abilities of private fab shops... we work in barely measurable tolerances, so assuming the design and raw materials were available it's not that weird to be able to build them from scratch, especially since As/Bs are in fact not chock full of advanced over-engineered frills like the F-22 is.

Very true. The enthusiasts in the one-hangar air museum near me, in Newquay, Cornwall, restore old jet fighters, and are currently supervising a party of school kids who are building their very own prop plane (just like the kids in my school's Design Tech department did in the 1970s).

In WW2, did not Albert Speer disperse a lot of Nazi weapons manufacturing to thousands of small workshops outside Germany's major cities, to avoid the RAF and USAAF's bombing campaign?

If building spacecraft were the same degree of difficulty as building a prop-driven plane with analog instrumentation and controls, I'd agree. ;-)

It's actually a lot easier, at least in the star wars universe. The technology is 20,000 years old. Kids on earth are building drones for fun and on their own these days and 3d printing is still in its infancy. They even weaponize them ;-)

We probably shouldn't weaponize infants. Their diapers are bad enough already!

.........................................................................................yeah.

I might give Rebels a miss.

Smart.

I made the mistake of watching the first season of it. It's basically what you'd expect from Disney star wars.

Example; there's a lightsaber that's also a gun. Because how cool is a lightsaber gun when you're 6 years old.

Which I suppose is the point - I don't care for rebels as I'm in my 30s, but it's probably not a bad show for its target audience of 3-11 year olds.

You probably miss the Vong.

I thought I'd made it clear I wasn't a fan of stupid stuff to entertain children... like ships made entirely of space-coral.

(I'm ok with space wizards and laser swords though... never said I wasn't a hypocrite )

Star Wars is stupid stuff to entertain children.

Exactly my point.

The difference is some of it came out when I was a child (laser swords, space wizards), some came out when I was in my 30s (lasersword guns).

OMG a mini superlaser on a B-Wing???

Thats blasphemy!

Those Disney guys are really going nuts with the canon!

Space Whales

Helicopter Lightsabers

Superlaser B-wings

Yep this show is trash.

OMG a mini superlaser on a B-Wing???

Thats blasphemy!

Those Disney guys are really going nuts with the canon!

*cough* Republic Attack Gunship, Attack of the Clones.

It's a thing, according to Lucas even. the Bwing just has a heavier version, in keeping with it's assault Fighter role.

I actually don't mind the death-laser B Wing. The technology isn't too far-fetched (although one-shotting a cruiser seemed a bit much) and the idea of building a ship around a weapon system seems plausible (isn't that how the A10 warthog got started?). It just so happened that in this case the weapon system wasn't feasible for whatever reason, so the ship stayed as a platform for more conventional weapons while the superlaser technology was abandoned.

I actually don't mind the death-laser B Wing. The technology isn't too far-fetched (although one-shotting a cruiser seemed a bit much) and the idea of building a ship around a weapon system seems plausible (isn't that how the A10 warthog got started?). It just so happened that in this case the weapon system wasn't feasible for whatever reason, so the ship stayed as a platform for more conventional weapons while the superlaser technology was abandoned.

Didnt a squadron of Bwings solo a star destroyer in the RotJ novelization?

Didnt a squadron of Bwings solo a star destroyer in the RotJ novelization?

Dunno, I never read it myself, but I know my B Wings have accounted for more than one ISD in Armada

OMG a mini superlaser on a B-Wing???

Thats blasphemy!

Those Disney guys are really going nuts with the canon!

*cough* Republic Attack Gunship, Attack of the Clones.

It's a thing, according to Lucas even. the Bwing just has a heavier version, in keeping with it's assault Fighter role.

Honestly i kind-of started to dislike Rebels when i saw the long neck ISD, and even more when they introduced the A-wings as the same A-wings from ROTJ. but i guess it really killed it for me was the b-wing. Even with the out of control super laser the design of the craft was there and thus it kills the cannon of a new hope. Why? because why would the rebellion use Y-wings if they already had a large heavy fighter/bomber to run against the 1st death star. Oh and the fact that darth maul isnt even dead yet means i really didnt miss the final outcome of his return arc from the clone wars.

Honestly i kind-of started to dislike Rebels when i saw the long neck ISD, and even more when they introduced the A-wings as the same A-wings from ROTJ. but i guess it really killed it for me was the b-wing. Even with the out of control super laser the design of the craft was there and thus it kills the cannon of a new hope. Why? because why would the rebellion use Y-wings if they already had a large heavy fighter/bomber to run against the 1st death star. Oh and the fact that darth maul isnt even dead yet means i really didnt miss the final outcome of his return arc from the clone wars.

Maybe the Yavin cell had no B Wings. Maybe the B Wings were tasked to a plan B mission where they were attempting to destroy the super-laser firing array, maybe the B Wing suffered many design and implementation problems and wasn't ready yet, maybe the B Wing was judged to be too slow to make the trench run, maybe they were just out of action due to servicing and repair issues...

There's lots of reasons we didn't see any at Yavin.

From my understanding, the B in the episode was a protype, meaning 1. By the time ANH rolled around, I doubt the fledgling alliance had more then a handful, and even then probably still just starting to have them combat preped. So not seeing the failure for the logic there. Also the whole if it can 1 shot a freighter why wasn't it massed produced? Have you read the books? Rebels aren't about sacrificing the grunt (outside of bothans, cause who cares about them?). If the weapon made it so that the pilot had the chance of being killed just to use it, it was kinda frowned upon. Do I think the laser was kinda stupid? Yeah, should of just had some kinda of heavy weapon ordnance to destroy smaller frigates, but star wars does like their Omnipotent beam weaponry, so take that for what it's worth.