Block Specialization

By KarmicCycle, in WFRP Rules Questions

This may be a bit early to question this, seeing as how I just noticed it during the demo and haven't gotten the rulebook yet.

The question is in regards to the Block specialization, I can't remember under what skill it falls but it is listed as a specialization. Since specializations add one white die to the pool when using the skill, how does this work with block, which doesn't have a roll?

It adds an additional , so provides [bB] to the opponent's roll.

You'd end up with 3 s. One for the Block defence, one for Resilience training, and one for the Block specialisation.

Oh, right! sonrojado.gif

monkeylite said:

You'd end up with 3 s. One for the Block defence, one for Resilience training, and one for the Block specialisation.

Hmm are you sure about this, i would think you only give out two BB , one for specialization and one for the block defence, why should resilience give one as well ?

ahh it says on the card lol

Did they actually officially state that is what block/parry/dodge specs do?

Kaptain O said:

Did they actually officially state that is what block/parry/dodge specs do?

You heard it from me. Consider it official.

;)

Mordenthral said:

Kaptain O said:

Did they actually officially state that is what block/parry/dodge specs do?

You heard it from me. Consider it official.

;)

Why?

because there is no better/official clarification forthcoming?

I mean c'mon, you'd think they would have cleared up what this means when they put out the errata....

Well right now RAW it's pretty clear, block/parry/dodge specialisation does nothing - unless for somereason you would be making an active skill check - possibly in story-mode. The RAW clearly states what the effects of specialization are.

Mord is saying that if he makes a statement on the rules then we should consider him official, I am asking him why - is he an FFG guy? If he is that's cool, I am glad that an FFG guy is here helping out with answers but I was not aware of his affiliation.

Since the new Errata states:

(New) Specialisation:
Active Defences
Several skills indicate specialisations most commonly associated
with the Dodge, Parry, and Block active defences. These specialisations
do not affect the use of the active defence cards.
However, if the GM asks the player to make a skill check based on
dodging, parrying, or blocking something (such as in a case outside
of a direct incoming attack directed against the character) the extra
fortune die would be added to the dice pool.
These specialisations are noted in the skill descriptions because a
particular specialisation may be a pre-requisite for certain action
cards in the future.

I'm gonna go with Mord not being an FFG guy and so we probably shouldn't consider what he says to be "official".

At the risk of spoiling the fun, he was joking about being official.

Chipacabra said:

At the risk of spoiling the fun, he was joking about being official.

I kind of assumed as much =P but you never know - he seemed pretty confident saying it so I wanted to check. I wish the FFG people had a larger presence on the boards but with wave 2 of the erratta released it seems they are being responsive to the issues we have - I just want instant answers!!!

I don't mind people chiming in with how they think a rule works (or should work) but I like to know when its official and when its opinion.

Ya know They could have cleared up all the confusion if they took the time to

.....oh, I dunno.....

explain thingsclearly and completely in the book? Along with all the pertinent information near by?

As much as I want to like this game, the fustration and murkiness of the rule are driving me away from it.

While there is some ambiguity, to be fair it does work *exactly* as stated in the book. I think someone else mentioned that we all may be overthinking the system and assuming they made mistakes or forgot to explain a rule when they actually just intend it to work exactly as written. A bunch of the FAQ (including the part on block specialisation) is them saying "No, it just works exactly as written"

Kaptain O said:

While there is some ambiguity, to be fair it does work *exactly* as stated in the book. I think someone else mentioned that we all may be overthinking the system and assuming they made mistakes or forgot to explain a rule when they actually just intend it to work exactly as written. A bunch of the FAQ (including the part on block specialisation) is them saying "No, it just works exactly as written"

QFT.

I agree. Most are not that difficult to "get".

I was "speaking" directly to the "Block, Dodge, Parry" Sepcialization question. Which frankly, has no reason for even being included At the moment.

Agreed - they could have probably avoided some of the questions by cutting them out of the "example specialisations".