Supose i have valen Rudor and i also have initiative. A ship that has Tactician fires a range 2 shot at Rudor. Since i have initiative rudor's ability resolves first. What happens if i boost out of range 2? would i still get the stress?

See the FAQ, await the inevitable argument because it runs roughshod over the normal rules of initiative resolving conflicts in timing.

Hmm.. I'm stumped.

I just found this in the "After Defending" vs "After you perform an attack" post:

In response to your rules question:

Rules Question:
My question is regarding the timing of abilities that occur "After defending" and "After you perform an attack". Initially I assumed that these resolved at the same time, and so initiative would determine which abilities happen first. However, the recent FAQ update states that "If Valen Rudor defends against a ship equipped with Tactician, the range for Tactician is measured after Valen Rudor performs his free action." This implies that "After defending" abilities should be resolved before the attacker's "After you perform an attack" abilities, but I can't find anything (beside Rudor's FAQ) to support this.


The timing window of “after defending” and “after you perform an attack” are the same timing window. When multiple effects occur at the same time, the order is resolved with the player with initiative resolving his or her effect first, then the other player. The Valen Rudor example is an exception to this by giving an explicit resolution to this timing window.

Thanks for playing,


Frank Brooks
Associate Creative Content Developer
Fantasy Flight Games
[email protected]

See the FAQ, await the inevitable argument because it runs roughshod over the normal rules of initiative resolving conflicts in timing.

Well that answered that question, but what if a have PTL. could he take his first action then PTL and double stress himself or would he take his first action then receive a stress

See the FAQ, await the inevitable argument because it runs roughshod over the normal rules of initiative resolving conflicts in timing.

Well that answered that question, but what if a have PTL. could he take his first action then PTL and double stress himself or would he take his first action then receive a stress

PTL interrupts the actions on the table.

So if Rudor zooms himself into range of a Tactician for some reason, he could PTL as normal, and receive a stress token from PTL, then receive a stress token from Tactician.

See the FAQ, await the inevitable argument because it runs roughshod over the normal rules of initiative resolving conflicts in timing.

Well that answered that question, but what if a have PTL. could he take his first action then PTL and double stress himself or would he take his first action then receive a stress

Valen Rudor is attacked by a ship with Tactician on board. The FAQ says he gets to take his free action before the range for Tactician is measured. If Rudor attempts to barrel roll out of range but doesn't quite make it, then with PtL, he can try and boost also. This second action will give him a stress token, and if the conditions of Tactician are still able to be met, then he'll get another stress token.

Thanks for clearing ti up everyone

See the FAQ, await the inevitable argument because it runs roughshod over the normal rules of initiative resolving conflicts in timing.

Well that answered that question, but what if a have PTL. could he take his first action then PTL and double stress himself or would he take his first action then receive a stress

Valen Rudor is attacked by a ship with Tactician on board. The FAQ says he gets to take his free action before the range for Tactician is measured. If Rudor attempts to barrel roll out of range but doesn't quite make it, then with PtL, he can try and boost also. This second action will give him a stress token, and if the conditions of Tactician are still able to be met, then he'll get another stress token.

When can you find out if you made it or not? Are you allowed to measure range after the barrel roll or do you have to just eyeball it?

When checking the range for Tactician, you measure with the range ruler after Rudor has finished any actions.

So Rudor barrel rolls and then Rudor's player can check for tactician? I think we've been interpreting this rule incorrectly. Are there any restrictions as per when you can measure for range?

Still waiting for the FAQ that states After An Attack and After Defending is actually the same timing event.

Defending doesn't start at the same time as attacking (costs for the attack must be paid first, as well as declaring target), so it's only an assumption that they both end at the same time. But Frank is the voice of God so I guess he is right.

So Rudor barrel rolls and then Rudor's player can check for tactician? I think we've been interpreting this rule incorrectly. Are there any restrictions as per when you can measure for range?

It should be the owner of the ship with Tactician that does the range check, not Rudor. In competitive play measuring is much more restricted, and you can only use the range ruler when checking ranges for attacks or an ability that requires it. And Rudor trying to avoid Tactician by barrel rolling does not allow Rudor to make a range check to see if he's made the distance. It's just like planning a manoeuvre - you've got to make a guess and hope it's enough.

Thanks for the clarification.