Lore Silvan hero in The Drowned Ruins is Argalad

By Gizlivadi, in The Lord of the Rings: The Card Game

Hmm, you might be onto something. That would be pretty disappointing, but maybe that would be more balanced. The ability basically gives Argalad the option to battle quest with him and the ability to commit him to the quest after staging. That's nothing to sneeze at. Damage to him would prevent him from getting out of hand.

But if that is his ability, he might go straight in the bike spokes. Although it also depends on his stats. So much speculation...

Hmm, you might be onto something. That would be pretty disappointing, but maybe that would be more balanced. The ability basically gives Argalad the option to battle quest with him and the ability to commit him to the quest after staging. That's nothing to sneeze at. Damage to him would prevent him from getting out of hand.

But if that is his ability, he might go straight in the bike spokes. Although it also depends on his stats. So much speculation...

Also, he is Silvan, the people of Lembas and Silvan Tracker, so it's not like there wouldn't be ways of mitigating the drawback. I think everyone likes direct damage to enemies, but it does seem like it'd be mighty powerful to have it in an inbuilt hero ability in combination with Thalin... I guess we'll see!

If he indeed does have high attack and can reduce an enemy's threat, he'll be a great replacement for Haldir in a thematic silvan deck.

I wish I could read that card text.

I really like the art on Aragorn and Halbarad. Haha my 2c

Great hero, but I´m 99% sure that Seastan is right. He damages himself.

What if he doesn't deals anything to anyone, but draws a card instead?

Great hero, but I´m 99% sure that Seastan is right. He damages himself.

Song of Mocking + Gloin = win?

That'll make a 3-sphered combo :D

That'll make a 3-sphered combo :D

But Seastan taught us to love A Good Harvest :)

The fact that he has to exhaust to do it means his other stats (will and defense) are relatively meaningless. He isn't questing if you are keeping him standing to use his ability, and to make his ability worth it his attack has to be higher than his will power.

Of all the elf heroes, only Legolas has a WP of 1. Due to Argalad's ability, I can see him being a 1 WP. Maybe sharing stats with Legolas completely: 1/3/1/4 with 9 threat.

Or maybe they don't want his starting STR to be that high, so he is another 2/2/2/4 10 threat. (I really hope not).

I really want a 0/3/0/4 with 7 threat (or 0/2/1/4) to make different secrecy decks than hobbits!

Edited by Slothgodfather

The fact that he has to exhaust to do it means his other stats (will and defense) are relatively meaningless. He isn't questing if you are keeping him standing to use his ability, and to make his ability worth it his attack has to be higher than his will power.

Of all the elf heroes, only Legolas has a WP of 1. Due to Argalad's ability, I can see him being a 1 WP. Maybe sharing stats with Legolas completely: 1/3/1/4 with 9 threat.

Or maybe they don't want his starting STR to be that high, so he is another 2/2/2/4 10 threat. (I really hope not).

I really want a 0/3/0/4 with 7 threat (or 0/2/1/4) to make different secrecy decks than hobbits!

It's possible his ability does something to the enemy that is beyond strong and his base attack is 0. So his ability would be useless until you attached weapons to him, but once you did, he'd be stronger than most heroes kind of thing.

The trouble is his ability of negating threat is only marginally better than just questing for that amount in the first place. It has the exact same outcome. This just allows you to decide to do it after cards are revealed. Which is handy for sure, but if his STR is worth anything, then you'll likely want him to be standing to help kill said enemy instead of just neutralizing his threat.

Granted, it does give you options. which is better than just over questing. I'm still hoping for lower than a 9 threat wise.

Edited by Slothgodfather

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So,if I'm not wrong there are already ( including Argalad ) 4x Lore Silvan Heroes, 1x Tactic Silvan Hero, 1x Leadership Hero and 0x Spirit Silvan Heroes. As much as I love Silvan I would love to see a Spirit Silvan Hero in the future., and aye Argalad looks promising :)

This just allows you to decide to do it after cards are revealed. Which is handy for sure, but if his STR is worth anything, then you'll likely want him to be standing to help kill said enemy instead of just neutralizing his threat.

Granted, it does give you options. which is better than just over questing. I'm still hoping for lower than a 9 threat wise.

I know you agree it's good, but I wanted to emphasize: I have found the ability to adjustaquest really great in a wide variety of scenarios, primarily for tempo control. I've had many a quest where Galadriel's draw/threat lowering ability was actually quite secondary to her role as 4 willpower only-when-needed (once Nenya is available). Same for Eowyn's power.

So, no matter what the rest of his text says, I'm stoked about this Argalad character, especially for multiplayer, when staging becomes really likely to reveal a new enemy. I'm guessing it's going to be 2 for the ATK stat. 1/2/1/4?

I'm excited about Entangling Nets. Seems generally more useful than Ithilien Pit, and it's another trap that could help the Dunedain stay engaged with enemies. Not to mention more Straight Shot shenanigans.

Maybe the first trap that actually combines well with other traps (Ithilien Pit, Ambush). Beorn and his Bear Trap are excited about some nets.

I was pretty certain the hero would be Thranduil. Now that it isn't, it would make perfect sense to have him in Leadership. So he may still arrive this cycle if we get two more Silvan heroes within the packs (unlikely but possible). Strange we haven't seen him yet, really.

Or they are waiting for the next cycle, which would take place in Mirkwood and north-east of ME in general

I think Thranduil will make his first appearance in the deluxe box that focuses on Silvan, which will probably be next.

True, no deluxe was about Silvan, after we have had Dwarves, Gondor, Rohan, Dúnedain and Noldor (broadly speaking); however, Silvan right now is probably the most developed trait in the game. Still, I wouldn't mind… I like them a lot. And I now want Thranduil Leadership -- and very different from Celeborn, which I am sure he will be (the latter I mean).

I think Thranduil will make his first appearance in the deluxe box that focuses on Silvan, which will probably be next.

I loves me some Silvans, but they're already such a powerful archetype. I wonder how they could be seriously developed a la a deluxe/associated cycle while avoiding power creep.

Yes, silvan seems to powerful for now. I think the next deluxe expansion and cycle is in Dale, and maybe Mirkwood. Do we have any silvan allies in the enters play synergy who is from Mirkwood? No, everyone is from the Galadhrim Realm. Which means that maybe Thranduil starts a new silvan strategy for he Mirkwood ones.

Edited by DurinVoronwe

Remember that the final pack in each cycle has featured a big time iconic character who ends up being pretty powerful: Dain, Elrond, Theoden, Erkenbrand, and Arwen. Theoden is clearly the weakest in game, but he is a major player in the lore. I think there is still real possibility that Thranduil is released in the final pack.

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BTW BIG NEWS! WE'LL BE GETTING A LORE VERSION OF BEORN SOON:

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I am not amused.

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