I don't think I like the idea of a TLT with a list that is working of a TB or two. The idea behind TLT is to punch through high rolling defense. If the TB hits, they are rolling one less green die. 6 points is a hefty price for a turret and I'm not sure it is being maximized in a TB list.
Scyk finds a home thanks to Tractor Beam
A three point Tractor Beam on a ship that's already too pricey? That's a hard sell if ever I saw one.
A three point Tractor Beam on a ship that's already too pricey? That's a hard sell if ever I saw one.
A 17 points Biggs is a steal! It would be foolish to ignore the Scyk because of the very real threat it brings to the table. It's also a win if the Scyk is ignored for every round it hits and all of your ships land extra damage!
A three point Tractor Beam on a ship that's already too pricey? That's a hard sell if ever I saw one.
At least there's some discussion about the Scyk...won't it be interesting if that's the ship voted in for the System Open Series?
A three point Tractor Beam on a ship that's already too pricey? That's a hard sell if ever I saw one.
It is still the cheapest option for the Tractor Beam. What other ships with a cannon slot would you rather put it on?
Since the Tractor Beam has come out I've been trying to find a use for it. It has great potential, but it's hard to give up a whole ship's worth of offense in order to use it. The Scum faction has an answer to this... A CHEAP SHIP!
It's 14+2+1=17 pts per ship.
Erm...Not_grand.
2 overpriced itself, 2 points overpriced title and you get 4 points overpriced ship
not fixed by tractor goodness.
Since the Tractor Beam has come out I've been trying to find a use for it. It has great potential, but it's hard to give up a whole ship's worth of offense in order to use it. The Scum faction has an answer to this... A CHEAP SHIP!
It's 14+2+1=17 pts per ship.
Erm...Not_grand.
2 overpriced itself, 2 points overpriced title and you get 4 points overpriced ship
not fixed by tractor goodness.
This has been said a few times over now. I ask this of you. Fly it a few times. I personally LOVE Stravipers so 3 vipers and a TB Scyk has been fun for me. Build a list with fighters your are comfertable with and enjoy flying. Make sure they are at or below the PS of the TB Scyk. See how it works out for you. I'm personally finding that 17 point Scyk to be a cheap Biggs at most. Once I get my Starvipers up close and personal with my opponent, they because a total nightmare! Hard to hit and hard to keep in arc.
Since the Tractor Beam has come out I've been trying to find a use for it. It has great potential, but it's hard to give up a whole ship's worth of offense in order to use it. The Scum faction has an answer to this... A CHEAP SHIP!
It's 14+2+1=17 pts per ship.
Erm...Not_grand.
2 overpriced itself, 2 points overpriced title and you get 4 points overpriced ship
not fixed by tractor goodness.
This has been said a few times over now. I ask this of you. Fly it a few times. I personally LOVE Stravipers so 3 vipers and a TB Scyk has been fun for me. Build a list with fighters your are comfertable with and enjoy flying. Make sure they are at or below the PS of the TB Scyk. See how it works out for you. I'm personally finding that 17 point Scyk to be a cheap Biggs at most. Once I get my Starvipers up close and personal with my opponent, they because a total nightmare! Hard to hit and hard to keep in arc.
I did. It's only udeful in Epic on Asherra as a troll bait ship.
It's a godsent for Defender, but not scyk. Scyk SEEMS to be made for Flechette, but it scyks even more than scyk >_>
In 100 pts game it's just_not_enough to justify scyk.
(and mentioning starvipers made me chuckle. really)
It's a good support choice for Epic, but not 100 pts, I'm afraid. It's still 4 points overpriced xD
and requires using Low PS ships. In current meta PS7 is already below the bottom line
Edited by WarpmanA three point Tractor Beam on a ship that's already too pricey? That's a hard sell if ever I saw one.
It is still the cheapest option for the Tractor Beam. What other ships with a cannon slot would you rather put it on?
Tractor Beam is an upgrade you should throw into a list when you have spare points, not something you should blow 20 points on purely to Tractor Beam. Quad Blue Squadron, Quad TB, Quad FCS for example (not that that's good considering that you're losing a B immediately against triple U-Boat, but you get what I mean).
Edited by ParaGoomba SlayerDepends on how you are planning on using the Tractor Beam. Let's face it, on those ships, you are giving up your damage for this.
On a Scyk, yes you pay a premium. But, you are giving up the damage of 2 Atk die to use it. Giving up the Scyk's attack for the Tractor Beam is far less painful than that list of ships. Especially when you consider that you can have more support for the Scyk.
Depends on how you are planning on using the Tractor Beam. Let's face it, on those ships, you are giving up your damage for this.
The point is: You do not use the TB every turn. You wait for the opportunity, when you can do more harm with the TB than with your primary weapon. This kind of opportunity happens only once or twice per game, that's why you should not invest many points into it.
Depends on how you are planning on using the Tractor Beam. Let's face it, on those ships, you are giving up your damage for this.
On a Scyk, yes you pay a premium. But, you are giving up the damage of 2 Atk die to use it. Giving up the Scyk's attack for the Tractor Beam is far less painful than that list of ships. Especially when you consider that you can have more support for the Scyk.
I'd throw a TB in the second cannon slot of an Aggressor just to have the extra utility. I might never use it, but I'm not losing anything other than the one point.
Still, 17 points for Biggs is a steal. Even 20 points.
Personally, I'm looking forward to 2 Scyks and 3 Khiraxz.
What are you doing with the last 6 points? Hull upgrades on the two Scyks? Glitterstim on all the Khiraxzs? Buy the Scyks up to PS5 (6 with Adaptability)? Take one hell of a PS bid?Cartel Spacer (14)Tractor Beam (1)"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)Cartel Spacer (14)Tractor Beam (1)"Heavy Scyk" Interceptor (Cannon) (2)Cartel Marauder (20)Cartel Marauder (20)Cartel Marauder (20)Total: 94View in Yet Another Squad Builder
Stealth Devices for both of the Scyks. I fly those tiny little point sinks way more often than I should, but never without a Stealth Device.