Uboat? Do you mean the Jumpmaster? It doesn't look anything like a u-boat

Uboat, name given to the Jumpmaster 5000 due to it physically resembling a "U" or horseshoe shape, as well as its effectiveness as a torpedo platform that can be flown in "swarms" (anything 3 or more is considered a swarm for large ships don't judge me!) Giving it the impression of a WWII German u-boat. Other names include bumpmaster (a collaboration of stating it's effectiveness as a blocker and a spin off of its own name), super blocker (a tip of the hat to super dash and his ability to block aces with his large base), and toilet seat/croissant.

If nothing else, the Mist Hunter looks better than the Jumpmaster. I really like 4-LOM as a pilot, but won't be able to fly him in hand in the next month or two (thanks IRS)! But I expect to fly him sometime this year... and probably will have more than one just for extra Tractor Beams. They might sit on the shelf next to my Starvipers, but, hey, if something comes along (like another title), I'm all set!

To be honest I think we will see the misthunter in competitive builds, for now it may only be 4-lom, but I think he fills the space for a great stress giver, with zuckuss crew, that packs a punch.

Plus I'm sure a b- wing fix is brewing in their head, and that should also help this ship, all it really will take is a good new system upgrade I think. I think of it like when youngster came out, there were no go action header epts for him, then all of a sudden we get rage and he became a really good option. Come on guys we all know we have some of the best designers working on this game

I haven't gotten to play mine yet.

Also, are those X-Men themed TIE Advanced?

My brother just won his store's wave 8 release tournament with Zuckuss, Palob, and Contracted Scout. He said Zuckuss was a powerhouse, which was good to hear since that's my favorite Star Wars character.

Mmmmmmm. Glass caaaaaaaanons.

Zuckuss (28)
Juke (2)
Gunner (5)
Fire-Control System (2)
Tractor Beam (1)
Mist Hunter (0)

Total: 38

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Dodge my 4 die tragtor beam, please. I want your token gone when i shoot you with my HLC-that-can-crit.

Zuckuss (28)

Juke (2)

Gunner (5)

Fire-Control System (2)

Tractor Beam (1)

Mist Hunter (0)

Total: 38

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Dodge my 4 die tragtor beam, please. I want your token gone when i shoot you with my HLC-that-can-crit.

90% of the time I'll probably be perfectly happy to eat a tractor beam if it means you aren't shooting at me with your 4+ dice primary on zuckuss...

Tried a Zuckuss with expose, experimental inyerface, advanced sensors, k4 security droid, and title.

Been a pretty nasty combo that with Zuckuss' ability took down a wounded Ghost in one turn.

Tried a Zuckuss with expose, experimental inyerface, advanced sensors, k4 security droid, and title.

Been a pretty nasty combo that with Zuckuss' ability took down a wounded Ghost in one turn.

That's the build I've been waiting to run. I just want to tear open my Mist Hunter expansion right now!

Uboat? Do you mean the Jumpmaster? It doesn't look anything like a u-boat

Uboat, name given to the Jumpmaster 5000 due to it physically resembling a "U" or horseshoe shape, as well as its effectiveness as a torpedo platform that can be flown in "swarms" (anything 3 or more is considered a swarm for large ships don't judge me!) Giving it the impression of a WWII German u-boat. Other names include bumpmaster (a collaboration of stating it's effectiveness as a blocker and a spin off of its own name), super blocker (a tip of the hat to super dash and his ability to block aces with his large base), and toilet seat/croissant.

Aah, thanks! Looks more like a c than a u, but with the torps, I get it! Did uboats travel in groups then? I always imagine submarines solo, it's part of their vibe - distant, isolated, alone.

I just got mine but it feels like a weird BWing/hwk hybrid and both of those aren't in good shape.

As scum get new crew and as new systems come out (especially scum only systems for This ship and the virago'd starviper!) it'll find place. Tractor + BR makes it interesting if they ever fix Scyks and Kfighters. It has to have a place...unless the YV is just that good. And as a former imperial shuttle pilot, the YV may, in fact, be THAT good...unless the jump master is better. Tough competition.

I have been toying with replacing a Slaver with the Misthunter on my triple slavers list. I figured if I could land a tractor beam, I could move the opponents ship into a more favorable position and the reduced agility would help me punch damage through.

I don't know about the mist hunter. High PS b-wings aren't played much because paying for PS generally doesn't provide good ROI on a 1 agility ship with 8hp.

Juke and Evade may change things, though.

They'd be fine, but TLTs have pushed B-wings out of the current meta.

And the mist hunter is a slightly more expensive (and marginally more capable, let's be fair here) B-wing.

A bit like the Kithraxz and the X-wing, the designers seem dead-set on making Scum the dark mirror of the Rebels an awful lot... which will also mean that they'll inherent the same problems, if and when they're present in the game.

They'd be fine, but TLTs have pushed B-wings out of the current meta.

And the mist hunter is a slightly more expensive (and marginally more capable, let's be fair here) B-wing.

A bit like the Kithraxz and the X-wing, the designers seem dead-set on making Scum the dark mirror of the Rebels an awful lot... which will also mean that they'll inherent the same problems, if and when they're present in the game.

Dont discount the higher PS on the g1a. Being higher ps means you can kill a tlt and now it doesnt shoot back. Also puts you on par with generivs like the scout and lothal rebel, obsidian ties, etc

So, I tried out Zuckuss (as Budgernaut mentioned), and admittedly none of my matches were against so-called "top-tier" squads. But he really did some work! Because Palob and the big scary Jumpmaster were in my squad, Zuckuss got ignored in two of my matches. In that situation, having Electronic Baffle to take the ion token away from 4-LOM was really good! Also, it allowed Zuckuss to K-turn and still get an action, which was amazing. I am a huge fan.

And I really wish people would stop calling it the Scum B-wing. Yes, there are obvious similarities, but the 4-speed Koiogran Turn, green straight 3, white straight 4, and access to Scum crew slots make it feel like a completely different animal. I hate B-wings with a passion. I love the G-1A starfighter (or at least Zuckuss - I'll have to try 4-LOM next time).

TLTs might be quite endangered now tho - Uboats kinda chew on them and spit them out.

A B-wing without the cannon slot (save for the Tractorbeam from the title) and cost more points while less shield coverage percentage.

Sorry but it simply is not as good as the B-wing. At least the Kihraxz cost less squadron points and you could take one more Kihraxz than you could X-wings.

A B-wing without the cannon slot (save for the Tractorbeam from the title) and cost more points while less shield coverage percentage.

Sorry but it simply is not as good as the B-wing. At least the Kihraxz cost less squadron points and you could take one more Kihraxz than you could X-wings.

I couldn't care less about the cannon slot on the b-wing. it costs 1 more point, but includes a crew slot (that the b-wing has to pay 1 for), and PS3 (which means it shoots before TLT and other PS1-2 generics, and puts it on par with uboats and generic vcx). Plus the evade action, at the cost of losing barrel roll.

And I really wish people would stop calling it the Scum B-wing.

It's a 8 HP 3 attack 1 agility fat guy that likes slowrolling due to rather "Rebel" greens

and has the godsent system slot (also known as FCS slot in the case)

I'm trying to make it Fatman but alas, it has little to no use, sooooooo...

It's not getting a real nickname, because nobody wants it in the competitive tier squad :C

TLTs might be quite endangered now tho - Uboats kinda chew on them and spit them out.

And, alas, they chew on B-wings just as quickly.

Which was the problem with the upgrade all along, really: niche encroachment is hard to fix without, well, a fix.

TLTs might be quite endangered now tho - Uboats kinda chew on them and spit them out.

And, alas, they chew on B-wings just as quickly.

Which was the problem with the upgrade all along, really: niche encroachment is hard to fix without, well, a fix.

The difference here being that the G1A is higher PS than the b-wing. So you at least get to shoot if you die. If you trade a generic g1a for a jumpmaster (dpeending ont he rest of your list), you're probably doing fine.

TLTs might be quite endangered now tho - Uboats kinda chew on them and spit them out.

And, alas, they chew on B-wings just as quickly.

Which was the problem with the upgrade all along, really: niche encroachment is hard to fix without, well, a fix.

The difference here being that the G1A is higher PS than the b-wing. So you at least get to shoot if you die. If you trade a generic g1a for a jumpmaster (dpeending ont he rest of your list), you're probably doing fine.

Unlikely that is!

12 dice with 6\8 chance to damage considering focus on attacking are roughly 9 damage

but that beast will likely be at R3, and still has 2 evades base. so 2-3 dice thrown 4 times will MOST LIKELY get at least 1-2-3-4 evade results naturally.

nope, you're not taking a JM with you.

TLTs might be quite endangered now tho - Uboats kinda chew on them and spit them out.

And, alas, they chew on B-wings just as quickly.

Which was the problem with the upgrade all along, really: niche encroachment is hard to fix without, well, a fix.

The difference here being that the G1A is higher PS than the b-wing. So you at least get to shoot if you die. If you trade a generic g1a for a jumpmaster (dpeending ont he rest of your list), you're probably doing fine.

Unlikely that is!

12 dice with 6\8 chance to damage considering focus on attacking are roughly 9 damage

but that beast will likely be at R3, and still has 2 evades base. so 2-3 dice thrown 4 times will MOST LIKELY get at least 1-2-3-4 evade results naturally.

nope, you're not taking a JM with you.

First, there's a reason I said "depending on the rest of your list". That may or may not be 4 G1As.

Second, if it IS 4 freelancers, you've got 2 points of upgrades to put on each of them that may or may not help your ability to kill the target (or make it less dangerous with a well-timed crit)

Third, why the hell are you engaging at range 3 for the first round? Learn to control your engagements and jump into range 2 at least if you can't get to range 1. And it's throwing unmodified greens if it wants to fire it's torpedo, which leaves it's evade dice rather unreliable.

TLTs might be quite endangered now tho - Uboats kinda chew on them and spit them out.

And, alas, they chew on B-wings just as quickly.

Which was the problem with the upgrade all along, really: niche encroachment is hard to fix without, well, a fix.

The difference here being that the G1A is higher PS than the b-wing. So you at least get to shoot if you die. If you trade a generic g1a for a jumpmaster (dpeending ont he rest of your list), you're probably doing fine.

Unlikely that is!

12 dice with 6\8 chance to damage considering focus on attacking are roughly 9 damage

but that beast will likely be at R3, and still has 2 evades base. so 2-3 dice thrown 4 times will MOST LIKELY get at least 1-2-3-4 evade results naturally.

nope, you're not taking a JM with you.

First, there's a reason I said "depending on the rest of your list". That may or may not be 4 G1As.

Second, if it IS 4 freelancers, you've got 2 points of upgrades to put on each of them that may or may not help your ability to kill the target (or make it less dangerous with a well-timed crit)

Third, why the hell are you engaging at range 3 for the first round? Learn to control your engagements and jump into range 2 at least if you can't get to range 1. And it's throwing unmodified greens if it wants to fire it's torpedo, which leaves it's evade dice rather unreliable.

When you consider Fatman vs U-boat situation, you consider equal-point situations, also known as "spam lists"

Other assets in the list? Hurr hurr, then there's no G1A at all xD

Even after jumping to lightspeed into R2, it will STILL roll his 2 dice 4 times. Being 3 natural evades if dice are mathwing-level.