Phoenix squadron as well, come to that. I see suggestions here and there, most recently in the Boarding thread. Love to see some thoughts how our favorite misfits could be brought to Armada.

Is Wraith squadron even canon anymore?

Is Wraith squadron even canon anymore?

It is if we want it to be.

Seriously, I dont think the Gladiator, Raider or AFMK II are even Canon.

GSD: Droids cartoon, not Canon.

AFMK II: Empire at War, not Canon.

Raider: FFG made it up so they could have a triangle corvette to go opposite the CR90, not Canon.

Everything else including wave 3 appeared in a Canon source. Feature films, The Clone Wars, Rebels, and books and comics released adout 6 months to a year after Disney took over.

Cool and functionality trump Canon.

Corran Horn, K-wing and E-wing are also from the old EU.

They are somehow in the X-wing game, so why not also in Armada

I don't think my question came across right. It wasn't a challenge, it was an honest question. I enjoyed almost all the X-Wing novels, so I was genuinely interested in knowing if they'd been brought back into canon somewhere in the new material.

By the looks of it, much of the EU is being jammed into the movie era time frame with the new source material. So you may see them at some point.

By the looks of it, much of the EU is being jammed into the movie era time frame with the new source material. So you may see them at some point.

I had noticed that. I'm trying to track down the current "canon" novels. So far I've read "New Dawn" and "Battlefront: Twilight Company." The first is between Ep. III and IV, the second before and during Ep. V. And now I'm reading "Sith Lords", which is before Ep. IV. Actually, looking at the list, a LOT of them are sandwiched between III and IV, with "Aftermath" being the only one placed between VI and VII (though there are another four to be released in the next year or so). Of course, there are the Young Reader novels, which are shotgunned all over the **** place. I'll skip those, personally.

I will say, though, that none of what I've read so far has referenced anything from the old EU. Other than "Sith Lords," they've been avoiding the original characters almost entirely (other then Nien Nunb and a passing scene that may have included Han Solo). Which I prefer. The old EU books were a mess. When a dozen different authors are all writing stories about the same main characters, it gets. . .schizophrenic. Not to say some of it wasn't fantastic (Zahn and Anderson are still two of my favorite authors), but Lucas didn't maintain a tight enough control on what was being written, and it just spiraled.

I think Disney will be much, much more cautious about it. And they may avoid the original EU entirely. Personally, I hope they bring back certain characters, but would be okay if they didn't. As long as they have skilled authors, which I've yet to see. "New Dawn" wasn't very well written and was pretty predictable. "Twilight Company" was a very nice novel, but you didn't I didn't feel an emotional connection to any of the characters. And "Sith Lords" just has some lazy writing, like using "the Force" a dozen times per page, or the word "droids" five or six times in a single paragraph!

I thought Rebel Dawn read very much like an episode of Rebels, so I was fine with it as it was. Reading Aftermath right now, and I have to say it's horrible. The --technique-- of the author (I'm sorry, but the writing doesn't deserve the word "style") is severely lacking. So is the consistency. The author makes a point of no sound in space, and then a chapter later the TIEs make noise in space. And the scene where 4 TIE's chasing a freighter take themselves out? Uhg. It's a painful chore to get past the first 30 pages, and this author is giving us two more books? Why Disney? Why ?!

The idea of canon is kind of silly, really. We have seen plentybof characters from the EU pop up to allow hope. And we have new squadrons as well. For those familiar with Wraith Squadron imagine the different effects they could have. And for those no familiar with WS they are worth checking out. Easily the better written aeries from the now Legends line.

I think that Disney is allowing anything that doesn't directly contradict or harm their newly established canon. We can probably guess that most of X-Wing, including both Rogue and Wraith Squadron series, more or less happened. Only Rogue One (and solely by virtue of its name) has a realistic chance of upending anything that isn't directly related to the Skywalkers, and also the Vong because **** the Vong.

Disney has reintroduced some old Canon back into Canon.

If they try to leave Corran Horn out of the loop... Let me tell you... Something.

This is why I don't threaten people. Everyone knows I'm not going to do anything. Maybe I'll write them a letter, but that's not a very intimidating threat.

This is why I don't threaten people. Everyone knows I'm not going to do anything. Maybe I'll write them a letter, but that's not a very intimidating threat.

What are you, kidding? The UN does this all the time! It's devastatingly effective! It has to be...or else why do they do it?

I thought Rebel Dawn read very much like an episode of Rebels, so I was fine with it as it was. Reading Aftermath right now, and I have to say it's horrible. The --technique-- of the author (I'm sorry, but the writing doesn't deserve the word "style") is severely lacking. So is the consistency. The author makes a point of no sound in space, and then a chapter later the TIEs make noise in space. And the scene where 4 TIE's chasing a freighter take themselves out? Uhg. It's a painful chore to get past the first 30 pages, and this author is giving us two more books? Why Disney? Why ?!

I tried to slog through this twice. No way. Getting to Mordor was infinitely more intersting.

Eh. Aftermath. Didn't read Rebel Dawn.

That's a shame about "Aftermath." I had been looking forward to that one. I'll probably still give it a shot, though. It's available as an ebook through my library, so it's free.

As far as EU stuff, I would imagine anything that happens before Jedi would be fine. It didn't contradict anything from the original trilogy, and Disney doesn't seem to be changing the EU in that area at all. I think eliminating the EU stuff is more to clear out everything that happens after the second Death Star explodes, because there was definitely a lot of crap there. Disney didn't pay billions of dollars to be tied in to the world that dozens of contradicting writers created. But a lot of those EU characters existed before Jedi, so I wouldn't be surprised to see FFG continuing to draw on them or future books that use them.

Sadly, I think the Rogue/Wraith Squadron stuff is out. All of it is after Jedi, and the impression I got from Episode VII is that the timeline is going in a drastically different direction than the old EU. Not saying they can't use the characters, but anything post-Jedi is most likely to get the axe.

As far as authors contradicting themselves, I've read a lot of Black Library books, so I'm used to that. I would've thought Disney would have more meticulous editors, but apparently not. I will say that two out of the three books so far have been disappointing. "New Dawn" was predictable with flat characters. It was like an episode of the show, true, but watching one episode of a show takes less time than reading a book. And "Sith Lords", as I mentioned, just has lazy, lazy writing. Vader "falls into the Force" in one paragraph, then "immerses himself deeper into the Force" the very next one. I can tell you that Vader uses his anger to focus himself "in the Force" about three times every goddamn minute, because it happens on almost every **** page.

Well, the reset also erases the first Han Solo trilogy, the Lando trilogy, and Splinter of the Minds Eye. Among possible others.

I've come to the point where I'll happily dance on the EU's grave.

Except for the titles I liked, however. (I'm probably not unique in this - so I won't belabor the point.)

i used to think that Zahn was the best and Anderson was the worst (of what I've read). I returned to reading Zahn, but I just haven't gotten through Scoundrels and I'm just going to give up on it.

In terms of NuCanon, I did like New Dawn , and I'm really interested in Kanan and Hera. James Luceno's Tarkin is to be appreciated because he is reconstituting the basic astro-graphical layout of the galaxy based on the Essential Atlas (which I adore), but I did not find it very compelling as a story. I have a copy of Aftermath , and I'm probably going to give it a try, but I do have tremendous trepidation, because I'm told it really blows. (People here seem to agree.)

Aftermath is so bad I will not buy another Star Wars novel until after I've read it. The buyers remorse is strong with this one.

I've read Rebel Dawn and Lost Stars, and from what I've seen people say Lost Stars was the best of the books released in anticipation of The Force Awakens.

I've heard that about Lost Stars, too. Haven't gotten around to it yet, though. Sadly that and Tarkin are not available as library ebooks in my state. So I'll have to go to the library like a chump and check out a real book . Ugh. When did life become so difficult?