I'm getting this for Christmas! but....

By Wolfie6407, in Tannhauser

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...I have a few questions about it tho.

#1: I got the Core Set, Operation Novgorod (I don't see much talk about this stuff), Gorgei single, and Ramirez single.

I'm looking to get Yula and possibly Wolf + the daedalus map expansion before Christmas. Yula has been out of stock for a while now and I saw the post that Wolf would be available for Christmas, AND I saw that daedalus has been on hold until the 2.0 rules were finished. Is it even slightly possible daedalus will be available before Christmas?

#2: I notice there is a TON of fanmade and bonus scenarios, tokens, and even maps available. What would be the best way to make the tokens, I don't exactly see cardboard sheets bending through a cheap commercial printer.

#3: This is a christmas present but I did open it up to look at what was all in it, and I did notice some of the plastic mini's were bent out of shape and some of the little robots in Novgorod were all different, some of the legs were broken off the stands and made the whole mini bend off the stand, this happen to anyone else? Its fine tho cause there all still attatched to the stand and I can easily bend em back into shape. I'm really happy they both came with little bags to put all the tokens in.

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hiya and welcome to the game and the forum,

1 i doubt there is any chance at all for deadelus, as for yula i have been trying everywhere so if you ever get 2 please please email me and ill have one off you happy.gif

2. what i do is use a cutter to cut out foam board in the circle size, then pva the token on which i have printed on photo paper to make it look cool.

3. luckily i have never had this happen, you could send them back to customer services, email them first, thaadd powell is great at replying and replacing things, they have a good customer service

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well, at the hp, ffg says that op daedalus will be released in 2009 - so I hope still for it till x-mas.

Regarding the Tokens I print them out on photopaper and stick them on cardboard.

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The robots in Novgorod are meant to be in four different poses - two with leg off the stand. It helps identify them.

The other models are easily fixed using the hot and cold water remedy.

Welcome to the game!

Nhoj

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Ok thanks for those answers, I really hope I can at least get Yula and Wolf at the same time. Multi box shipping is a tad expensive sometimes. I didn't realize the robot thingies were in different poses...makes sense tho. Thanks for the tips on the token making, "pva" confused me for a bit but after some googling I found its just regular school white glue...nice trap there.

MOAR QUESTIONS!

About Combat. While trying it out(in secret teehee), the combat seemed very fast and fluid...and slightly confusing. The rulebook makes it sound much more complicated then it sounds. BUT just to make sure let me see if I got this right

Someone attackes you, they roll dice = their combat value + bonuses (that apply for combat roll) and hits are rolled numbers over the defenders stamina value + bonuses (do bonuses for stamina exist?). Hits are counted. So then the defender does a shock roll in which they roll dice = their combat value + bonuses (that apply to shock roll) and shocks are rolled numbers over the attackers stamina value + bonuses. then for each shock cancles one hit and any remaining hits are wounds(is every remaining hit counted as a seperate wound? or only one?). Is this the process? And do bullrushing/mental/stamina duels ever result in wounds (unless specified, I know that skull thing the evil guy has says it can cause wounds)?

Whats the difference between regular (or ranged combat) and hand to hand combat, the rulebook makes a heavy inference that it is different, but I can't find the specified differences in the rulebook other then the skill thing that allows you to use your current combat value over the penalty of using your lowest without the skill.

Also if you have multiple weapons, do you choose only one to use in an attack or do you get a overall bonus for each one that can be applied (say you have 2 close combat guns and the whip, would all 3 count towards a single attack in bonuses and effects if they all met the range requirements?) If so wouldn't this make that one girl on the expansion: that plants a bomb thing on the defender and has that little laser gun that detonates it as another weapon, a little powerful?

Also do grenades hit through objects? The rulebook is slightly too vauge on that. If two circles are technically adjacent but theres a wall seperating them, would a grenade still hit through the wall?(makes sense that it would)

I didn't fiddle around with the expansion very much but reading the rules and stuff about the robots made me very confused. I'm sure I'll have some questions about that after I get a chance to use it.

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Wolfie6407 said:

Someone attackes you, they roll dice = their combat value + bonuses (that apply for combat roll) and hits are rolled numbers over the defenders stamina value + bonuses (do bonuses for stamina exist?). Hits are counted. So then the defender does a shock roll in which they roll dice = their combat value + bonuses (that apply to shock roll) and shocks are rolled numbers over the attackers stamina value + bonuses. then for each shock cancles one hit and any remaining hits are wounds(is every remaining hit counted as a seperate wound? or only one?). Is this the process?
The attacker rolls combat dice + combat bonuses against the defenders combat value. For each hit (we like to call it a "threat" at that point, to differentiate between hits that might hurt and hits that did hurt), you need to try to neutralize it with the shock roll of the defenders stamina dice + stamina bonuses against the defenders stamina value.
Every threat that is canceled out is gone; any that didn't get prevented is an actual hit, and knocks the defending character down a notch. When four hits make it through, even a hero is dead. Three hits will take down a trooper.
If you have multiple weapons, you have to choose one to use, you don't stack the bonuses.
Grenades do not blast through walls ~ especially not in these settings. Maybe if you were playing in a tenement with paper-thin walls you might have to make allowances for this, but all the maps are using nice, Old World construction, mostly stone. If you wanted to get realistic about it, the grenade's blast would probably double back if it went off near a wall, focusing and thus increasing the damage to those unlucky enough to be standing there. The game's not that realistic a simulation though.
I'll leave some questions for others to answer! happy.gif

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ah, bit late this time sorry, ok whats left diff between ranged and cc, well basically it is obviously just that, but if for example you are challenged in cc and you havent got a cc weapon............well your stuffed. especially if your being attacked by the reich.

so you need to be in an adjacent circle for cc as well and ranged must be further away happy.gif

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darknight said:

hiya and welcome to the game and the forum,

1 i doubt there is any chance at all for deadelus, as for yula i have been trying everywhere so if you ever get 2 please please email me and ill have one off you happy.gif

2. what i do is use a cutter to cut out foam board in the circle size, then pva the token on which i have printed on photo paper to make it look cool.

3. luckily i have never had this happen, you could send them back to customer services, email them first, thaadd powell is great at replying and replacing things, they have a good customer service

Agreed. I've also had first hand experience with Thaadd Powell . He is a great person to deal with. Very nice and so accommodating!

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yea, i got a novgorod expansion, and it had suffered in transit and storage, the board was all frayed etc, but he sent me a new one, and as you say a great person to deal with, i wish more customer services were like that :)