Wave eight has been out for two days, everything we knew three days ago is old information. The lists I wanted to play tomorrow are out of date and are weak bordering on useless against the new stuff .

How has the new newness been treating you?

I'm stuck in a fog. Should I run my old crap anyways or keep up with the Joneses.probably going to run the old junk, get my butt kicked and take a long break from this game.

New Meta? So what people stopped flying Soonter, TLTs, Brobots, Palpmobile and ATC Advanced already?

Yes, Fett took all the toys and went home.

New Meta? So what people stopped flying Soonter, TLTs, Brobots, Palpmobile and ATC Advanced already?

I mean I'm definitely going to try booting soontir out of my emperor's escort for the inquisitor if that counts.

In just grumpy and second guessing my list choices . and tomorrow I wake up and drive two hours to the last SC in my area.

Too late to turn back bow I guess. Ah well. I'll start the day with bloody Mary's and try to have fun and forget about trying for the cut.

Kavil with Predator, Dorsal Turret, and Unhinged Astro is pretty good. 3-4 dice attack depending on range is solid. Given the current meta is seeing a lot of PS 2 pilots around, Predator is even more effective.

new meta

New Meta? So what people stopped flying Soonter, TLTs, Brobots, Palpmobile and ATC Advanced already?

AND... remember kiddies of the moment; The Falcon is no longer a viable (blubs & snargels) part of this game... that used to be about STAR WARS.

The Glory...

I've stewed on it for ten minutes or so.

End result....

I'm over it.

Going to have fun tomorrow.

I'm bringing everg ship I have and I'll make a list when I walk in the door.

Drinks up!

Meta...shmeta.....tournament...shnournament...

It's going to be a x wing party.all day. Ten bucks at the door.

The only thing that has changed for me so far is that I'm less likely to run lists that "depend" on one ship with a single upgrade thanks to the possibility that I'll run into a scum list with Fett. I'm still running strong upgrades, but not lists that depend on a "single" upgrade. Why build a swarm that relies on one shared upgrade card, or regen from R2-D2, or a list that needs support from Palpatine when a scum player only needs to spend 1 point to shut down that essential upgrade?

Sure, not every list will have Fett ... but if the strength of your list depends on a single card then now that's an even bigger risk than it already was at tournaments.

It's u-boats.

I'm afraid of u-boats.

So far I have opened my ships and did NOT have to purchase additional storage. Yay!

And the G-1A is a lot bigger than I thought it would be.

I've stewed on it for ten minutes or so.

End result....

I'm over it.

Going to have fun tomorrow.

I'm bringing everg ship I have and I'll make a list when I walk in the door.

Drinks up!

Meta...shmeta.....tournament...shnournament...

It's going to be a x wing party.all day. Ten bucks at the door.

HIS EYES OPEN!!!

Ooo boy

I think, after facing them tonight, that scouts will be the forum's next TLT

The pain...

No word yet about if gamma bombers counter em or not.. Not gonna bother. Exchanged fire with a scout (same dice, same reroll + chips). He took two shields. I took two hulls direct hit and a major explosion, which is auto direct hit for me. Yup bomber got one shot and I did min damage. Never again

Anyway, I caution people. PLEASE give them time. The dial is out of this world bizzaee and you'll need several games to adjust to it. Remember, it white segnors towards the lighter side of the ship!

Lost twice to scouts; won the last game after I figured out the dial shenanigans (and how to pilot the bloody inquisitor). Basically ran head on with two crackbties redline and inq; managed to merc one before it shot and weather them down to one torpless scout v the inq (shieldless). Long brawl and they're scary maneuverable (could've killed me range 1 in arc); somehow managed

Also the inquisitor. Dude would've died every single game without ptl. Learn it, love it; get your focus mods.

Yes it makes you more predictable; doesn't matter. Naked awing stats is worth 15 points, not 29/30.

Word on the weird greens, it forces you into a hit and run style because it's easier to block than soontir. The 1-speed non straight greens cover a much smaller area than the interceptor's/FO's 2-speed ones, and it'll make you easy money for large base blockers (scouts)

Regardless, you get used to him and the man pulls his weight. Note: he does NOT replace soontir. He doesn't have the defensive capability. He is a long range, very solid damage sniper for relatively cheap.

So, from these past few days

Inq - hell yeah viable; completely different from current offering of aces. Only wish he had a 1-straight

Bombers - cursed

Scouts - meta; might run into problems v palp aces and brobots

Ooo boy

I think, after facing them tonight, that scouts will be the forum's next TLT

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No more than the days of Fat Han PWT hate was.

Ooo boy

I think, after facing them tonight, that scouts will be the forum's next TLT

...

No more than the days of Fat Han PWT hate was.

nah fat Han PWT hate was merited for being a Han boring piece of ****

TLTs did an immense amount of work improving variety in the game, and these new jumpmasters fly awesome and look awesome

the arrangement of those 3 U-boats with the cloud city white swirl-line is just so **** tasteful. I can't handle art of this magnitude.

Ooo boy

I think, after facing them tonight, that scouts will be the forum's next TLT

...

No more than the days of Fat Han PWT hate was.

nah fat Han PWT hate was merited for being a Han boring piece of ****

TLTs did an immense amount of work improving variety in the game, and these new jumpmasters fly awesome and look awesome

They look like a donut that someone took a bite out of to me.

We had a Wave VIII release tournament last night with the new ships as prizes.

Triple Torpedo Spam took 1st place, undefeated (and a Ghost expansion). 2d was Palp-Vader RAC and Soontir, though.

First games against dengar and torp boats was a whole lot of "what?..."

Havnt seen a large base that wasn't a brobot Or shuttle since wave 6, and these guys have a crazier dial with far more tricks

Thank God the asymmetry helps things a bit, but good luck guessing where dengar is going without a bit of practice against them

Lots of folks flying wave 8 at our store's X wing night on Thursday. Dengar and Boba Fett list has done very well thus far and the only time I've seen the G1-A on the table it handily defeated a Vader, Inquisitor and Rudor list. Haven't seen the ghost yet, one guy bought three but was flying Imperials at X Wing night this week.

Initial thoughts, ordnance is definately making a big comeback. Been flying Deadeye Nera, Raging Tycho and BBB-8 PTL Wedge and those chips have given the list a very nasty alpha strike.

The G1-A is not to be underestimated. Evade action and a very good selection of crew makes it much more interesting than "just a scum B wing." Saw a Gand Findsman with Dengar crew and Crackshot tank Proton Rockets from both the Inquisitor and Rudor; then delete the Inquisitor.

Honestly the Jumpmaster terrifies me. Buddy was flying his "Groom and Boom" list; Dengar and Boba Fett and it put out a ton of very reliable firepower. He jousts on the initial engagement with Dengar, with Deadeye, Rec Spec, R4 Agro and Proton Torpedoes. Saw him scare off a T-70 from taking any shots since it would have mean taking a TL'd and chipped Proton for his troubles. Boba brings along Plasma Torps and 4-L0M to soften the target up for Dengar.

I'm still not sure what to think about the TAP, played two games against a three TAP ordnance list with a fleet officer firespray in support. Kill the firespray both games before he could set up for the alpha though. I have a hard time thinking of a time to use the TAP other than as a missile boat. Basically where as the Rebels can choose to fly an A Wing with either missiles or Ordnance I see Imperials as choosing either a missile carrying TAP or bringing a Tie/FO (which in a weird way I kind of like, since the Empire seems to love have a multitude of ships with very specific roles).

I'm not sure how much I can extrapolate about an emerging meta from these early experiences. We have a fairly small X Wing community in my local area and are mostly new players, easily 50% only got into the game when the second core set released. It's funny, because the group is so new I've seen it rapidly run through some of the old stand bys, old school tie swarm plus Vader (however with ATC), then generic rebel swarm lists like BBBBZ or quad T-70 appear as everyone tried out jousting. One player brought a dual VI phantom list (which virtually no one had ever see) and did extremely well, suddenly the pilot skill arms race begins and the first few turrets arrive. Regen aces showed up for the first time 2 weeks ago and now ordnance lists this week. It honestly feels that in the last 8-10 weeks our little store group has been discovering and flying the top builds from each previous wave, and basically in order all the way from wave 1 to 8.

Headed to a SC with 4 mindlinked Scyks today. What could possibly go wrong?

I'll tell you what, I've been having fun flying Y-Wings without turrets. Plasma Torpedoes & Chips on Dutch, Proton Torpedoes & Chips on a Gold, with Garven + R2 + IA to give Dutch a Focus, with a Crackshot PTL Green Squadron for blocking or flanking.

I find if I can focus on one target, I can get a big bad ship off the board in one round, or at least load it with crits from the Proton Torpedoes.

Headed to a SC with 4 mindlinked Scyks today. What could possibly go wrong?

no idea

but if one of your Scyks finds out, all of them will

Headed to a SC with 4 mindlinked Scyks today. What could possibly go wrong?

no idea

but if one of your Scyks finds out, all of them will

Curious as to the build: Are you running them asymmetrically, or are you that desperate to make a TIE Interceptor?