well... You have barrel rolls, so I would remove Engine Upgrade, so you would be able to fit 4 12 points z-95´s

EU arc manipulation is IMO far more worthy than a handful of crappy zs (who tend to clutter the board and limit your fat turret anyway)

Id start with the marauders. They seem to give the sturdiest "core" for dengar to work with

I'm experimenting with IG-88B - I don't think the Brobots need to be flown together to be good and I think 88B might be a good complement to Dengar. With 44 points you could do B(36) + Mangler (4) + FCS (2) + Autothrusters (2).

Just an idea I can't wait to try mine and see how good/bad it is.

Guri - 41pts

-Lone wolf

-Sensor Jammer

-Autothrusters

-Cloaking Device

That leaves 3pts for an illicit on Dengar

My thinkimg.. Dengar is really mobile. Not Super Dash levels of course but a lot of lksts will struggle to pin him down. Who ever flies with Dengar is likely to be targeted first. Z's, Y's and to a lesser degree K's all dislike being focused.

That got me wondering what annoying ships do Scum have that can contribute but not melt the first time they are looked at sideways..

StarViper: · Guri (30)

· Lone Wolf (2)

Autothrusters (2)

· Virago (1)

Sensor Jammer (4)

Glitterstim (2)

41pts in that format.

What do you fly with best? I find at the the point of this question you need to look at how you fly. I hate losing ships, so I would go for another big ship like a Trando-Slaver with Bossk and Gunner or Bossk himself.

Binayre Pirate (12)

• Feedback Array

3 of these still let you take Glitterstim on Super Dengar. A twist on Fat Han, if you miss that.

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Ruthless Freelancer (23)

Cartel Marauder (20)

1 G-1A and 1 K-Fighter give you enough firepower to hang with Dengar and a 1-pt bid

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Guri (30)

• Predator (3)

• Autothrusters (2)

• Virago (1)

• Sensor Jammer (4)

Standard Super Guri, allows Glitterstim for both, just one or neither for init bids.

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These might be the most solid choices until Dengar's place on the meta is determined.

With a 50 pt Dengar I put in Talonbane and Torkil to make an Ace Hunter List.

My list is IG88B and Dengar. I'm not a great list builder, but I honestly think this will be strong. I think my Dengar build will be one of the standards. I can see a VI version with a different flavor of astromech and crew as well. Probably as viable.

Dengar (33)

Push the Limit (3)

Bossk (2)

Unhinged Astromech (1)

Glitterstim (2)

Engine Upgrade (4)

Punishing One (12)

IG-88B (36)

Crack Shot (1)

Fire-Control System (2)

"Mangler" Cannon (4)

Total: 100

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I think IG-88B is the best choice. You want Dengar's wingman to be a less attractive target than Dengar himself, so that leaves only IG or Guri. IMO IG-88b is a better choice due to way better offense.

Also, don't forget Adaptability for empty EPT slots.

Hmm, this makes me wonder if Dengar can use his ability with his turret...

I was going to say no way its anything but a primary... but FFG has been very specific in the past about what kind of attacks you can use and what kind of attacks trigger a given effect. That makes me think you can respond with a torpedo. because they deliberately didn't say perform a primary attack.

Seing PTL on Dengar makes me sad. His ability screams for that white Sengors to be used! VI is going to be solid, Predator, too. PTL is going to work as well, but it just isn't as cool.

Seing PTL on Dengar makes me sad. His ability screams for that white Sengors to be used! VI is going to be solid, Predator, too. PTL is going to work as well, but it just isn't as cool.

Vi is solid, without doubt, but PtL gives you more options IMO. Contrary to popular belief, you don't have to do a green if you have a stress. Nothing prevent you from doing a white s-loop after PtL if that's the best move.

For a long time I forgot that. At my SC I was reminded of that fact.

Ptl on dengar is far and away the most useful

Trick is to use it only to compliment movement with boost+ roll

K4 takes care of full mods with a normal focus action and, unlike kyle, doesn't need stress to work

Ptl on dengar is far and away the most useful

Trick is to use it only to compliment movement with boost+ roll

K4 takes care of full mods with a normal focus action and, unlike kyle, doesn't need stress to work

I flew this build and won last night, and it was very enjoyable - it hit hard, but had a lot of built-in defense too.

Dengar

• Determination
• Salvaged Astromech
• Gonk
• Experimental Interface
• Punishing One

(53 points)

and

IG-88B

• Determination
• Sensor Jammer
• Mangler Cannon
• Autothrusters

(47 points)

Gonk with EI was great for rebuilding shields after Dengar took some big hits; IG-88B did relatively consistent damage with the Mangler (though I flew him rather poorly). The Jumpmaster's white 2 left s-loop is really great.

Another Dengar wingman idea that just occurred to me:

Contracted Scout with. Deadeye, Plasma Torps, Extra Munitions and Overcharged Agromech (32 points)

Binareye Pirate (12 point)

How does that sound?

I think that would have applications for sure, but I'd be tempted to use the points from BP on some more upgrades for scout

I thought of that as well, but I'm having trouble coming with a use for full 12 points. First 6 is easy: Flechette Torps and Glitterstim on Dengar (4 points), then R4 Agromech and Proton Torps instead of Overcharged and Plasma on scout (2 points).

The remaining 6 however I'm at a loss l.Glitterstim on Scout, Boba or 4LOM crew on Scout and a 3 point initiative bid?

I'm also doubting if a Scout with this loadout is really better than ig-88b

Not sure which Dengar build you wanted to go with, but you can spend the points. It kinda comes down to what torps you want as well. You could go advanced proton torps, but i feel like that forces you to coordinate that torpedo shot with your glitterstem use, which may or may not be optimal. Some scout advantages are turret vs arc, another crew slot (You can't boba on an IG), and Brolls.

Contracted Scout (25)
Deadeye (1)
Proton Torpedoes (4)
Extra Munitions (2)
Boba Fett (1)
R4 Agromech (2)
Glitterstim (2)
Guidance Chips (0)

Dengar (33)
Push the Limit (3)
Proton Torpedoes (4)
Extra Munitions (2)
Bossk (2)
Unhinged Astromech (1)
Glitterstim (2)
Engine Upgrade (4)
Punishing One (12)

Total: 100

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Dengar (33)

-Punishing One (12)

-Push the Limit (3)

-Engine Upgrade (4)

-K4 Security Droid (3)

-Unhinged Astromech (1)

Total: 56

Trandoshan Slaver (29)

-Engine Upgrade (4)

-Bossk (2)

-Gunner (5)

-Outlaw Tech (2)

-Inertial Dampeners (1)

Total: 43

Total: 99

I figure this could be pretty good. Roll Dengar up with the Slaver following behind. Try and get Dengar to dogfight the opponent's ships in close range while the Slaver sits back a few turns with 0 move and ID to volley shots in place. Could also spend the extra point if you wanted K4 Security Droid on Slaver instead of Outlaw Tech and make it 100.

Is Super-Dengar as good as Super-Dash? Dengar is missing the 4D6 HLC turret (of course no donut hole instead) and I feel Dash´s ability is more useful for an arc-dodging turret ship. PS9 is however much better than PS 7 so I guess it´s hard to say.